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    Igel M350C - unable to use integrated mmc after recent FOG Update

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      pilipp_edv
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      Hi all,
      we use FOG to deploy a custom thinclient operating system to hardware made by Igel.
      One of the models we use has an integrated sd card reader where the only storage resides.
      Before the last FOG update, we did not encounter any issues.
      Since updating to 1.5.10.1673 however, we get the following message:

      mmc0: mmc_select_hs400 failed, error -110
      mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising MMC card
      

      followed by the “An error has been detected!” - message stating

      Init Version: 20250731
      Could not determine a suitable disk automatically.
      

      Updating from stable to dev branch did not bump the version number in the fog webinterface and has not resolved this issue.
      Any hints on how to resolve this without downgrading? Seems to be an issue with the order in which the linux kernel handles sd cards.
      Using the latest init.xz and bzImage from https://github.com/FOGProject/fos/releases did not help either

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        RAThomas @pilipp_edv
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        @pilipp_edv

        Maybe try stepping back to older kernels via the web GUI, FOG Configuration -> Kernel Update

        That way you can test if it is purely a kernel issue without downgrading anything else.

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          pilipp_edv @RAThomas
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            pilipp_edv @RAThomas
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            @RAThomas thanks for the hint, switching to bzimage from fog 1.5.9 did not fix this issue however. still fails with the same error.

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              pilipp_edv @pilipp_edv
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              @pilipp_edv IMG_20250903_104556_203.jpg
              re-ran the current stable installer to get the current bzImage and init.xz again and now this is the error when trying to deploy

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                pilipp_edv
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                using different bzImage from 2024 resolved this issue for me.

                fe69d16f-e9d2-4de2-80ea-32cfa4ed004b-image.png

                thanks again @RAThomas for the suggestion, this topic can be marked as resolved.

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                  JJ Fullmer Testers @pilipp_edv
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                  @pilipp_edv
                  Glad you got it figure out.
                  In case you aren’t aware, you can download that bzImage as a different name like bzImage-mmc and use that case sensitive name in the Host Kernel field on any host you have with the mmc and your other hosts can use the default latest.

                  Would you be willing to share more info on the make/model of these computers and or the make/model of the mmc controller and such? Although it could just be down to what driver versions are included by linux at the kernel level with different versions of the kernel, we can also check if there was a config change in what we include in the kernel between then and now that could have caused this.

                  Have you tried the FogApi powershell module? It's pretty cool IMHO
                  https://github.com/darksidemilk/FogApi
                  https://fogapi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
                  https://www.powershellgallery.com/packages/FogApi
                  https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/12026/powershell-api-module

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                    pilipp_edv @JJ Fullmer
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                    @JJ-Fullmer didn’t think of that to be honest. neat functionality though.

                    The computers in question are thinclients made by IGEL with model name M350C. I don’t have any spec sheet at hand, and this is all the information I can get from lshw:

                    *-mmc0
                           description: MMC Host
                           physical id: 1
                           logical name: mmc0
                         *-device
                              description: SD/MMC Device
                              product: MB2908
                              vendor: Unknown (112)
                              physical id: 1
                              bus info: mmc@0:0001
                              date: 12/2021
                              serial: 786513286
                              capabilities: mmc
                            *-interface:0
                                 physical id: 1
                                 logical name: /dev/mmcblk0rpmb
                            *-interface:1
                                 physical id: 2
                                 logical name: /dev/mmcblk0
                                 size: 7818182656
                                 capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt
                                 configuration: guid=1a95b8bc-00fe-4914-b3e5-fbfeadcec3f3 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512
                               *-volume:0 UNCLAIMED
                                    description: Windows FAT volume
                                    vendor: mkfs.fat
                                    physical id: 1
                                    version: FAT32
                                    serial: 2897-15bc
                                    size: 510MiB
                                    capacity: 511MiB
                                    capabilities: boot fat initialized
                                    configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat
                               *-volume:1
                                    description: EFI partition
                                    physical id: 2
                                    logical name: /dev/mmcblk0p2
                                    logical name: /
                                    logical name: /boot/grub2/i386-pc
                                    logical name: /home
                                    logical name: /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi
                                    logical name: /root
                                    logical name: /srv
                                    logical name: /opt
                                    logical name: /usr/local
                                    logical name: /var
                                    serial: 604ab399-44a4-4424-b2a1-6c00b24e85fe
                                    capacity: 6942MiB
                                    configuration: mount.fstype=btrfs mount.options=rw,relatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=257,subvol=/@/var state=mounted
                    

                    here’s the sata controller:

                      *-sata                    
                           description: SATA controller
                           product: FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
                           vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
                           physical id: 0
                           bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
                           version: 61
                           width: 32 bits
                           clock: 33MHz
                           capabilities: sata pm pciexpress msi ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
                           configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
                           resources: irq:37 memory:c0200000-c02007ff
                    

                    some more info from /sys/block/mmcblk0 :

                    cat /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/manfid
                    0x000070
                    
                    cat /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/oemid 
                    0x0100
                    

                    dmesg logs :

                     dmesg | grep -i mmc
                    [    2.402874] [     T43] mmc0: SDHCI controller on ACPI [AMDI0040:00] using ADMA
                    [    2.486871] [     T64] mmc0: new HS400 MMC card at address 0001
                    [    2.525628] [    T360] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 MB2908 7.28 GiB
                    [    2.538622] [    T360]  mmcblk0: p1 p2
                    [    2.540006] [    T360] mmcblk0boot0: mmc0:0001 MB2908 4.00 MiB
                    [    2.541111] [    T360] mmcblk0boot1: mmc0:0001 MB2908 4.00 MiB
                    [    2.542009] [    T360] mmcblk0rpmb: mmc0:0001 MB2908 4.00 MiB, chardev (240:0)
                    [    7.779557] [    T534] BTRFS: device fsid 05497210-4970-4c6e-8f81-0e94b0309f1d devid 1 transid 224 /dev/mmcblk0p2 (179:2) scanned by mount (534)
                    [    7.780300] [    T534] BTRFS info (device mmcblk0p2): first mount of filesystem 05497210-4970-4c6e-8f81-0e94b0309f1d
                    [    7.780325] [    T534] BTRFS info (device mmcblk0p2): using crc32c (crc32c-x86) checksum algorithm
                    [    7.780334] [    T534] BTRFS info (device mmcblk0p2): using free-space-tree
                    

                    info from mmc-utils :

                    mmc extcsd read /dev/mmcblk0
                    =============================================
                      Extended CSD rev 1.8 (MMC 5.1)
                    =============================================
                    
                    Card Supported Command sets [S_CMD_SET: 0x01]
                    HPI Features [HPI_FEATURE: 0x01]: implementation based on CMD13
                    Background operations support [BKOPS_SUPPORT: 0x01]
                    Max Packet Read Cmd [MAX_PACKED_READS: 0x3c]
                    Max Packet Write Cmd [MAX_PACKED_WRITES: 0x20]
                    Data TAG support [DATA_TAG_SUPPORT: 0x01]
                    Data TAG Unit Size [TAG_UNIT_SIZE: 0x03]
                    Tag Resources Size [TAG_RES_SIZE: 0x00]
                    Context Management Capabilities [CONTEXT_CAPABILITIES: 0x05]
                    Large Unit Size [LARGE_UNIT_SIZE_M1: 0x0f]
                    Extended partition attribute support [EXT_SUPPORT: 0x03]
                    Generic CMD6 Timer [GENERIC_CMD6_TIME: 0x32]
                    Power off notification [POWER_OFF_LONG_TIME: 0xff]
                    Cache Size [CACHE_SIZE] is 128 KiB
                    Background operations status [BKOPS_STATUS: 0x00]
                    1st Initialisation Time after programmed sector [INI_TIMEOUT_AP: 0x64]
                    Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 3.6V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_360: 0x00]
                    Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 1.95V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_195: 0x00]
                    Power class for 200MHz at 3.6V [PWR_CL_200_360: 0x00]
                    Power class for 200MHz, at 1.95V [PWR_CL_200_195: 0x00]
                    Minimum Performance for 8bit at 52MHz in DDR mode:
                     [MIN_PERF_DDR_W_8_52: 0x00]
                     [MIN_PERF_DDR_R_8_52: 0x00]
                    TRIM Multiplier [TRIM_MULT: 0x11]
                    Secure Feature support [SEC_FEATURE_SUPPORT: 0x55]
                    Boot Information [BOOT_INFO: 0x07]
                     Device supports alternative boot method
                     Device supports dual data rate during boot
                     Device supports high speed timing during boot
                    Boot partition size [BOOT_SIZE_MULTI: 0x20]
                    Access size [ACC_SIZE: 0x08]
                    High-capacity erase unit size [HC_ERASE_GRP_SIZE: 0x01]
                     i.e. 512 KiB
                    High-capacity erase timeout [ERASE_TIMEOUT_MULT: 0x11]
                    Reliable write sector count [REL_WR_SEC_C: 0x01]
                    High-capacity W protect group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x10]
                     i.e. 8192 KiB
                    Sleep current (VCC) [S_C_VCC: 0x08]
                    Sleep current (VCCQ) [S_C_VCCQ: 0x08]
                    Sleep/awake timeout [S_A_TIMEOUT: 0x15]
                    Sector Count [SEC_COUNT: 0x00e90000]
                     Device is block-addressed
                    Minimum Write Performance for 8bit:
                     [MIN_PERF_W_8_52: 0x08]
                     [MIN_PERF_R_8_52: 0x08]
                     [MIN_PERF_W_8_26_4_52: 0x08]
                     [MIN_PERF_R_8_26_4_52: 0x08]
                    Minimum Write Performance for 4bit:
                     [MIN_PERF_W_4_26: 0x08]
                     [MIN_PERF_R_4_26: 0x08]
                    Power classes registers:
                     [PWR_CL_26_360: 0x00]
                     [PWR_CL_52_360: 0x00]
                     [PWR_CL_26_195: 0x00]
                     [PWR_CL_52_195: 0x00]
                    Partition switching timing [PARTITION_SWITCH_TIME: 0xff]
                    Out-of-interrupt busy timing [OUT_OF_INTERRUPT_TIME: 0xff]
                    I/O Driver Strength [DRIVER_STRENGTH: 0x1f]
                    Card Type [CARD_TYPE: 0x57]
                     HS400 Dual Data Rate eMMC @200MHz 1.8VI/O
                     HS200 Single Data Rate eMMC @200MHz 1.8VI/O
                     HS Dual Data Rate eMMC @52MHz 1.8V or 3VI/O
                     HS eMMC @52MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
                     HS eMMC @26MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
                    CSD structure version [CSD_STRUCTURE: 0x02]
                    Command set [CMD_SET: 0x00]
                    Command set revision [CMD_SET_REV: 0x00]
                    Power class [POWER_CLASS: 0x00]
                    High-speed interface timing [HS_TIMING: 0x13]
                    Enhanced Strobe mode [STROBE_SUPPORT: 0x01]
                    Erased memory content [ERASED_MEM_CONT: 0x00]
                    Boot configuration bytes [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x00]
                     Not boot enable
                     No access to boot partition
                    Boot config protection [BOOT_CONFIG_PROT: 0x00]
                    Boot bus Conditions [BOOT_BUS_CONDITIONS: 0x00]
                    High-density erase group definition [ERASE_GROUP_DEF: 0x01]
                    Boot write protection status registers [BOOT_WP_STATUS]: 0x00
                    Boot Area Write protection [BOOT_WP]: 0x00
                     Power ro locking: possible
                     Permanent ro locking: possible
                     partition 0 ro lock status: not locked
                     partition 1 ro lock status: not locked
                    User area write protection register [USER_WP]: 0x00
                    FW configuration [FW_CONFIG]: 0x00
                    RPMB Size [RPMB_SIZE_MULT]: 0x20
                    Write reliability setting register [WR_REL_SET]: 0x00
                     user area: existing data is at risk if a power failure occurs during a write operation
                     partition 1: existing data is at risk if a power failure occurs during a write operation
                     partition 2: existing data is at risk if a power failure occurs during a write operation
                     partition 3: existing data is at risk if a power failure occurs during a write operation
                     partition 4: existing data is at risk if a power failure occurs during a write operation
                    Write reliability parameter register [WR_REL_PARAM]: 0x15
                     Device supports writing EXT_CSD_WR_REL_SET
                     Device supports the enhanced def. of reliable write
                    Enable background operations handshake [BKOPS_EN]: 0x00
                    H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
                    HPI management [HPI_MGMT]: 0x01
                    Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x07
                     Device support partitioning feature
                     Device can have enhanced tech.
                    Max Enhanced Area Size [MAX_ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x0001d2
                     i.e. 3817472 KiB
                    Partitions attribute [PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x00
                    Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
                     Device partition setting NOT complete
                    General Purpose Partition Size
                     [GP_SIZE_MULT_4]: 0x000000
                     [GP_SIZE_MULT_3]: 0x000000
                     [GP_SIZE_MULT_2]: 0x000000
                     [GP_SIZE_MULT_1]: 0x000000
                    Enhanced User Data Area Size [ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000000
                     i.e. 0 KiB
                    Enhanced User Data Start Address [ENH_START_ADDR]: 0x00000000
                     i.e. 0 bytes offset
                    Bad Block Management mode [SEC_BAD_BLK_MGMNT]: 0x00
                    Periodic Wake-up [PERIODIC_WAKEUP]: 0x00
                    Program CID/CSD in DDR mode support [PROGRAM_CID_CSD_DDR_SUPPORT]: 0x01
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[127]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[126]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[125]]: 0x20
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[124]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[123]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[122]]: 0x20
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[121]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[120]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[119]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[118]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[117]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[116]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[115]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[114]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[113]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[112]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[111]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[110]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[109]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[108]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[107]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[106]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[105]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[104]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[103]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[102]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[101]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[100]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[99]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[98]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[97]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[96]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[95]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[94]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[93]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[92]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[91]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[90]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[89]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[88]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[87]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[86]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[85]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[84]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[83]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[82]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[81]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[80]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[79]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[78]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[77]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[76]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[75]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[74]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[73]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[72]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[71]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[70]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[69]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[68]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[67]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[66]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[65]]: 0x00
                    Vendor Specific Fields [VENDOR_SPECIFIC_FIELD[64]]: 0x00
                    Native sector size [NATIVE_SECTOR_SIZE]: 0x00
                    Sector size emulation [USE_NATIVE_SECTOR]: 0x00
                    Sector size [DATA_SECTOR_SIZE]: 0x00
                    1st initialization after disabling sector size emulation [INI_TIMEOUT_EMU]: 0x00
                    Class 6 commands control [CLASS_6_CTRL]: 0x00
                    Number of addressed group to be Released[DYNCAP_NEEDED]: 0x00
                    Exception events control [EXCEPTION_EVENTS_CTRL]: 0x0000
                    Exception events status[EXCEPTION_EVENTS_STATUS]: 0x0000
                    Extended Partitions Attribute [EXT_PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x0000
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[51]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[50]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[49]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[48]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[47]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[46]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[45]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[44]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[43]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[42]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[41]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[40]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[39]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[38]]: 0x00
                    Context configuration [CONTEXT_CONF[37]]: 0x00
                    Packed command status [PACKED_COMMAND_STATUS]: 0x00
                    Packed command failure index [PACKED_FAILURE_INDEX]: 0x00
                    Power Off Notification [POWER_OFF_NOTIFICATION]: 0x01
                    Control to turn the Cache ON/OFF [CACHE_CTRL]: 0x01
                    Control to turn the Cache Barrier ON/OFF [BARRIER_CTRL]: 0x00
                    eMMC Firmware Version: �
                    eMMC SECURE_WP_SUPPORT: 1
                    eMMC SECURE_WP_EN_STATUS: 0
                    eMMC Life Time Estimation A [EXT_CSD_DEVICE_LIFE_TIME_EST_TYP_A]: 0x01
                    eMMC Life Time Estimation B [EXT_CSD_DEVICE_LIFE_TIME_EST_TYP_B]: 0x01
                    eMMC Pre EOL information [EXT_CSD_PRE_EOL_INFO]: 0x01
                    Secure Removal Type [SECURE_REMOVAL_TYPE]: 0x01
                     information is configured to be removed by an erase of the physical memory
                     Supported Secure Removal Type:
                      information removed by an erase of the physical memory
                    Command Queue Support [CMDQ_SUPPORT]: 0x01
                    Command Queue Depth [CMDQ_DEPTH]: 16
                    Command Enabled [CMDQ_MODE_EN]: 0x00
                    Note: CMDQ_MODE_EN may not indicate the runtime CMDQ ON or OFF.
                    Please check sysfs node '/sys/devices/.../mmc_host/mmcX/mmcX:XXXX/cmdq_en'
                    

                    let me know if this helps or if you’d like anything else

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