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    Wayne Workman @Tom Elliott
    last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 3:20 PM

    @Tom-Elliott said in ZSTD Compression:

    the pzstd library was more of use as it allowed realtime and multiple core compression.
    I am having a problem building pzstd for 32 bit systems though :(.

    32 bit systems can use the zstd one. Can’t wait to see the compression/decompression speeds when you get pzstd working.

    I can setup some tests for multiple unicast tasks simultaneously and I’m sure I’ll be able to note greater performance with the better compression.

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      Junkhacker Developer @Wayne Workman
      last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

      @Wayne-Workman we have 3.7TB

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        Wayne Workman @Junkhacker
        last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

        @Junkhacker You’re for-sure not most people. 🙂

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          Tom Elliott
          last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 7:42 PM

          I want to say for people, using the zstdmt (vs pzstd as I can’t get it to build on 32 bit) the imaging is MUCH faster even at -19.

          It’s compressing at about the same rate, more or less, but it’s much faster than the 35 minutes I originally had tested against. Using zstdmt on the same image with all cores in use took the 35 minute time and got it all done in 2 minutes 58 seconds.

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            Junkhacker Developer @Tom Elliott
            last edited by Junkhacker Feb 20, 2017, 1:57 PM Feb 20, 2017, 7:56 PM

            @Tom-Elliott i was just performing some testing at zstandard -11 to compare to pigz -6
            image size went from 16.4GB gz to 14.6GB zstdmt
            capture time 14 minutes 15 seconds pigz to 11 minutes 4 seconds zstdmt
            deploy time 3 minutes 33 seconds pigz to 2 minutes 38 seconds zstdmt

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              Wayne Workman
              last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 8:01 PM

              geeze that is flippin fast… ok I’m sold.

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                Junkhacker Developer
                last edited by Feb 20, 2017, 10:16 PM

                i have not been able to get “ultra” levels (>=20) tasks to work without crashing. anyone else seeing the same?

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 1:29 AM

                  Anyone tried like a 40 GB image? That’s in the range where I’d like to see a comparison in deployment time.

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                    george1421 Moderator @A Former User
                    last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 1:32 AM

                    @loosus456 I would say that a 40GB disk image is uncommon. If you have a source, then I might suggest that you update to the latest RC release and test the results.

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                      A Former User @george1421
                      last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 1:42 AM

                      @george1421 40 GB is uncommon? Uh what? Are you guys deploying XP or something?

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                        Tom Elliott @Junkhacker
                        last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 2:17 AM

                        @Junkhacker I’m seeing exactly the same problem, and It feels like it’s writing the data and filling the RAM space too quickly. It’s doing so far faster than it can compress it, and overruns the memory space that partclone is using. (Just my theory).

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                          Tom Elliott @A Former User
                          last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 2:18 AM

                          @loosus456 My base images with all software had a disk usage of 48gb at it’s largest, but that was EVERYTHING I could put on. My “average” was about 25gb.

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                            compman @Junkhacker
                            last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 2:30 AM

                            @Junkhacker “ultra” compression ratio (>=20) use a lot of memory.
                            So, either stick to “normal” compression levels (<= 19), or limit the number of threads, to ensure it doesn’t consume too much memory.

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                              A Former User @Tom Elliott
                              last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 2:55 AM

                              @Tom-Elliott We have images with Autodesk and Solidworks near 100 GB.

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                                Tom Elliott @A Former User
                                last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 2:56 AM

                                @loosus456 I’m not disagreeing, I’m just saying what I imagine “most” people are working with (on average).

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                                  A Former User @Tom Elliott
                                  last edited by A Former User Feb 20, 2017, 9:04 PM Feb 21, 2017, 3:04 AM

                                  @Tom-Elliott I dunno. Most educational professionals I work with have had similar sizes.

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                                    Wayne Workman @A Former User
                                    last edited by Wayne Workman Feb 20, 2017, 9:57 PM Feb 21, 2017, 3:54 AM

                                    @loosus456 said in ZSTD Compression:

                                    40 GB is uncommon?

                                    My Win10 images were around 20GB. Linux images are even smaller, 3 or 4 GB - and that’s all I deploy anymore, just all Linux.

                                    Understand when I build an image - it’s lean. No flab. I literally throw out the manufacturer’s bloated crappy flabby unoptimized image and build my own from scratch. Not just for size & performance reasons but for security reasons too. Computer manufacturers don’t vet the bloatware they sign contracts for - to install into their images - many times these crappy bloated pieces of software are found to have vulnerabilities. But I make images lean. In Windows that means a vanilla installation & using device manager to install ONLY the drivers and no extra flab/bloatware crap. When I put MS Office on the image, I only installed the pieces that people used, not everything. The fat 10GB recovery partition gets thrown out, don’t need that. I also rebuilt all my images every summer - because if all you do is take an old image and patch it up, it gets bloated & slow.

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                                      falko Moderator @Tom Elliott
                                      last edited by falko Feb 21, 2017, 12:41 AM Feb 21, 2017, 6:33 AM

                                      Tom-Elliott said in ZSTD Compression:

                                      @loosus456 My base images with all software had a disk usage of 48gb at it’s largest, but that was EVERYTHING I could put on. My “average” was about 25gb.

                                      I use a single win7 image at my place (nearly all software etc.), it’s just under 30gb. Will make some time to do some tests

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                                        sudburr @Junkhacker
                                        last edited by Feb 21, 2017, 4:03 PM

                                        @Junkhacker The majority of my images are ~55 GiB compressed, 85-115 GiB deployed. And yah, Autodesk and Adobe products suck it up real good.

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                                          Junkhacker Developer @A Former User
                                          last edited by Junkhacker Feb 21, 2017, 4:20 PM Feb 21, 2017, 10:11 PM

                                          @loosus456 the image i was testing with here was 33.87 GB “on client”

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