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    sid
    last edited by Apr 3, 2012, 6:09 PM

    Hello
    I have setup Fog .32 with the default kernel which I believe should be the 3.2.4, then I ran into this issue with our Dell optiplex 780 machines not being able to PIXEboot.
    I found out that Kernel 2.6.35.7KS is compatible with Dell 780, so I installed that Kernek over the top and 780 machines started to work.
    But our Dell E6420 stopped working because they don’t like the kernel I put into the FOG.
    My question is, what would someone in my situation do if they have different hardware?
    should I install different FOG server with different kernel or I can have one server that will work with my hardwar?
    I even looked at making custom kernel, but that was way too complicated for me since I have no knowladge of linux.
    Please help
    Thanks

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      Eric
      last edited by Apr 3, 2012, 7:06 PM

      I recently made my own Kernel as a proof of concept. Its based of the Linux 3.3 Kernel and it resolved a lot of problems for me. Its attached in my post here. Be sure to backup any of your existing Kernels in /tftpboot/fog/kernel/

      Let me know if it works for you.

      [url]http://scatteredspace.com/Fog/bzImage.zip[/url]

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        falko Moderator
        last edited by Apr 3, 2012, 7:32 PM

        [quote=“Eric, post: 2657, member: 83”]I recently made my own Kernel as a proof of concept. Its based of the Linux 3.3 Kernel and it resolved a lot of problems for me. Its attached in my post here. Be sure to backup any of your existing Kernels in /tftpboot/fog/kernel/

        Let me know if it works for you.

        [url]http://scatteredspace.com/Fog/bzImage.zip[/url][/quote]

        I was going to build 3.3 kernel tomorrow, thanks for posting

        [url]http://www.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Building_a_Custom_Kernel[/url]

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          sid
          last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 1:12 PM

          Thanks for the kernel, but I keep getting permission denied when I try to copy it to tftpboot/fog/kernel folder.
          I use winscp and log on to server with admin account.
          any Idea?
          thanks

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            Eric
            last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 1:48 PM

            [quote=“sid, post: 2680, member: 558”]Thanks for the kernel, but I keep getting permission denied when I try to copy it to tftpboot/fog/kernel folder.
            I use winscp and log on to server with admin account.
            any Idea?
            thanks[/quote]

            I’m not sure… It could be because the folder only has root access. In Winscp I would check the Kernel’s folder permissions to make sure you have write access to it.

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              The Dealman
              last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 3:01 PM

              [quote=“Eric, post: 2657, member: 83”]I recently made my own Kernel as a proof of concept. Its based of the Linux 3.3 Kernel and it resolved a lot of problems for me. Its attached in my post here. Be sure to backup any of your existing Kernels in /tftpboot/fog/kernel/

              Let me know if it works for you.

              [url]http://scatteredspace.com/Fog/bzImage.zip[/url][/quote]

              What hardware models does this kernel support?

              Fog 1.5.9 running currently on all servers

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                Raff
                last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 3:04 PM

                You can point computers to different kernels. In the general tab of the host properties add the Kernel location in ‘Host Kernel:’ for example:- Host Kernel: fog/kernel/backup/bzimage2012
                This will solve the problem while you find a kernel that will work on both sets of computers.

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                  Eric
                  last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 3:43 PM

                  [quote=“The Dealman, post: 2684, member: 53”]What hardware models does this kernel support?[/quote]

                  I work for a school district that primarily uses Dell PCs these days. I recently ran into a few video problems which were annoying.

                  The first problem occurred when imaging Dell Optiplex 745’s. 745’s have an on board VGA port and a DVI riser card. When imaging these machines I would get a “Resolution out of range” message on the monitors.

                  The second problem occurred on any machine using an ATI/AMD video card. I would typically get what people call on here the “snow/ scrambled” screen. While the PCs still imaged with both of these problems, I could not tell how the progress of the image was going by looking directly at the PC.

                  By creating my custom Kernel I told it to include all ATI, Intel, and Misc graphics drivers. It appears to resolve both of my major problems, however, I am not sure if it is because I included these drivers or because the linux kernel is newer.

                  I have tested my Kernel on the following models of PCs:
                  Dell Optiplex
                  380, 390, 745, 755, 760, 790

                  Dell Latitude (netbooks)
                  2100, 2110, 2120

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                    sid
                    last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 3:51 PM

                    Raff
                    could you be more specefic, what do you mean by Host Kernel?
                    I don’t see any Host kernek under Fog settings if that’s where I should look
                    Thanks

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                      sid
                      last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 3:53 PM

                      Eric

                      Winscp can’t edit permission on tftpboot folder, It gets permission denied
                      Looks like my only luck is updating kernel through kernel update in Fog which is limited to only existing Kernels.
                      Thanks

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                        sid
                        last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 5:13 PM

                        something that I just did.
                        I logged into ubunto, my fog server, and tried to read the permission on the tftpboot folder.
                        it shows that Fog is the owner and doesn’t let me do anything

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                          Eric
                          last edited by Apr 4, 2012, 6:56 PM

                          [quote=“sid, post: 2694, member: 558”]something that I just did.
                          I logged into ubunto, my fog server, and tried to read the permission on the tftpboot folder.
                          it shows that Fog is the owner and doesn’t let me do anything[/quote]

                          My guess is that you would need to open up Terminal on your Ubuntu hosting fog. From there you would need to use sudo to copy the bzImage over so that you have elevated privages. Example:

                          sudo cp /media/C810-83C8/bzImage /tftpboot/fog/kernel/bzImage

                          /media/C810-83C8/bzImage <-- Being my flash drive and /tftpboot/fog/kernel/bzImage <-- Being the location where kernel needs to go.

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                            sid
                            last edited by Apr 5, 2012, 12:44 PM

                            Eric
                            Here is what I did:
                            Since I could not get ubunto to see my USB drive that was attached to ESX host, I downloaded the Kernel from your link and then used the sudo cp command to copy it over to existing kernel.
                            I tested 4 of our Dell machines, Dell E6410, E6420, Dell 760 and Dell 780, with success.
                            I should say I did system compatiblity test in system information from PXEBott Menu and they all passed.

                            the only problem I have is the with Dell 780 which is stuck in uploading the image eventhough I removed it from hosts list on Fog server , it still upload the image to Fog no matter what.
                            I need to figure out where it’s Mac address has got stuck I think.
                            Thanks for the working Kernel you sent, you are awesome.
                            Thanks again

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                              sid
                              last edited by Apr 5, 2012, 12:56 PM

                              I was right, the mac address of that machine was in the following folder:
                              /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg , which I was able to delete by using the command: sudo rm { Mac Address}

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                                Raff
                                last edited by Apr 10, 2012, 10:40 AM

                                On the general tab for any host there is an option to point to a different kernel. Find a host, then look in general options and point to different kernel thats stored in your fog server.

                                Look at the properties for any host you will see the Host Kernel field.

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                                  joshua
                                  last edited by Apr 17, 2012, 4:18 PM

                                  Anyone have any luck with Dell Poweredge Servers? I compiled my own kernel 3 times now to include the RAID drivers yet it still seems to not accept it.

                                  Specifically LSI RAID Drivers.
                                  Dell Poweredge 1850,1950, 2850,2950 are the ones I have attempted and failed.

                                  ::FOG CANNOT IMAGE SERVERS:: until proven otherwise.

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                                    chad-bisd Moderator
                                    last edited by Apr 18, 2012, 3:26 PM

                                    Joshua, try looking for the article about installing Linux on the PowerEdge 2650 server, which has a PERC4 raid controller. It may lead you to the answer eventually, I hope.

                                    Sid, the custom kernel options are per HOST, or per GROUP and ONLY apply to tasks created for the host or group through the Web UI. If you boot to the fog menu and choose any of those options, it ignores your kernel settings for the host because the kernel to use is hard-coded into the menu file.

                                    To clarify: If you can register and inventory with the default kernel (bzImage), you are good to specify a different kernel or kernel parameters for upload/download tasks. If you can’t register or inventory some machines with the default kernel, you’ll need to kernel swap or compile a custom kernel.

                                    Being a long time Linux user but new to kernel compiling, I took this challenge a few months ago and documented it well on the old forums and copied it to the new forums.

                                    [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/compiling-a-custom-kernel-for-acer-iconia-tab-copied-from-old-forums.216/[/url]


                                    If you would like to make a donation to the Fog project, please do so [U][COLOR=#0000ff][URL='http://sourceforge.net/dona…

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                                      boon
                                      last edited by May 8, 2012, 8:34 PM

                                      [quote=“Eric, post: 2657, member: 83”]I recently made my own Kernel as a proof of concept. Its based of the Linux 3.3 Kernel and it resolved a lot of problems for me. Its attached in my post here. Be sure to backup any of your existing Kernels in /tftpboot/fog/kernel/

                                      Let me know if it works for you.

                                      [url]http://scatteredspace.com/Fog/bzImage.zip[/url][/quote]
                                      Thanks for sharing, Eric. Works like a charm on all the problem Dells we had (760, 755, 740, GX620). Much appreciated 😄

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                                        snoopsean
                                        last edited by May 9, 2014, 4:32 PM

                                        thank[quote=“Eric, post: 2657, member: 83”]I recently made my own Kernel as a proof of concept. Its based of the Linux 3.3 Kernel and it resolved a lot of problems for me. Its attached in my post here. Be sure to backup any of your existing Kernels in /tftpboot/fog/kernel/

                                        Let me know if it works for you.

                                        [url]http://scatteredspace.com/Fog/bzImage.zip[/url][/quote]

                                        This kernel worked for me. Thank yo so much eric. I made it the default kernel and my new machines and old machines boot.

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                                          need2 Moderator
                                          last edited by May 9, 2014, 4:53 PM

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