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    Jaymes Driver Developer
    last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 2:50 PM

    [quote=“haste347, post: 41990, member: 28447”]Thank you, I have followed this guide and everything seems to be working with the exception of being able to “get undionly.kpxe” from a workstation (on the server it works.)[/quote]

    When you say workstation, you mean a windows machine in the same network as the FOG server? If your DHCP options are correct, you should at least get some kind of out put.

    I highly recommend DNSMASQ. It seems that you are having difficulty resolving your bootfile name.

    [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Using_FOG_with_an_unmodifiable_DHCP_server/_Using_FOG_with_no_DHCP_server[/url]

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      haste347
      last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 2:58 PM

      Jaymes, thank you, I will give that a try if there isn’t something obvious I have simply overlooked in my config causing the issue.

      My environment is an interesting mix, for sure. I would not be surprised if it is causing the issue as well.

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        haste347
        last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 3:08 PM

        [quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 41991, member: 3362”]so you are getting Failed and not “Received XXXX bytes in X.X seconds…” on the client.

        I know this is for debian but you showed that iptables were installed so please run the following on the server and rerun the tftp tests on the client.
        [CODE]iptables -F
        iptables -X
        iptables -t nat -F
        iptables -t nat -X
        iptables -t mangle -F
        iptables -t mangle -X
        iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
        iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
        iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT[/CODE][/quote]

        Done, still the same outcome. Thank you.

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          Tom Elliott
          last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 3:19 PM

          [code]sudo ufw disable[/code]

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            haste347
            last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 7:01 PM

            [quote=“Jaymes Driver, post: 41993, member: 3582”]When you say workstation, you mean a windows machine in the same network as the FOG server? If your DHCP options are correct, you should at least get some kind of out put.

            I highly recommend DNSMASQ. It seems that you are having difficulty resolving your bootfile name.

            [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Using_FOG_with_an_unmodifiable_DHCP_server/_Using_FOG_with_no_DHCP_server[/url][/quote]

            Alright, I followed this setup and I am now getting through. However, I am unclear what the instructions meant by “update the schema…” for the iPXE boot.

            When I PXE boot from a workstation, I choose “boot to network”, which then gets me to the attached screen/error.

            Would you enlighten me further, please? I’d hate to mess something up when the resolution seems so close!

            Thank you again for all your help!

            [url=“/_imported_xf_attachments/1/1674_IMAG2049.jpg?:”]IMAG2049.jpg[/url]

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              Jaymes Driver Developer
              last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 7:55 PM

              When you navigate to the web GUI for the FOG server, if you haven’t done so already, it will ask you to update the schema.

              This will allow the database to be initialized and set up properly for your version of FOG.

              If you have already completed the schema update (required after installation of FOG) then it will not be necessary to complete the action again.

              It appears as if it did not receive the file in time. Are you able to now use the tftp get command on a windows workstation?

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                haste347
                last edited by Feb 10, 2015, 8:59 PM

                Oh, ok…Yes, I have already initialized the database when it asked.

                I am not able to ‘get’ from a workstation, still.

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                  Sebastian Roth Moderator
                  last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 1:01 AM

                  Is your TFTP server really running and listening on the FOG server?
                  [CODE]netstat -antup | grep “:69”
                  udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 10149/in.tftpd[/CODE]

                  If yes there probably is another firewall is involved. Any router/firewall/layer-3 switch between client and FOG server??? How are client and FOG server connected?

                  Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                    Junkhacker Developer
                    last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 2:42 PM

                    have you tried Tom’s suggestion? [CODE]sudo ufw disable[/CODE]

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                      Sebastian Roth Moderator
                      last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 3:18 PM

                      [quote=“haste347, post: 41989, member: 28447”]
                      Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 714K packets, 82M bytes)
                      pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination

                      Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
                      pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination

                      Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 27794 packets, 4641K bytes)
                      pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination[/quote]

                      No iptables rules loaded and default policies set to ACCEPT. I doubt that a local firewall could be the issue.

                      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                        Junkhacker Developer
                        last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 3:24 PM

                        didn’t see that, i’m guessing it’s a switch issue than

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                          Wolfbane8653 Developer
                          last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 3:27 PM

                          [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 42061, member: 21583”]didn’t see that, i’m guessing it’s a switch issue than[/quote]

                          Possibly along the lines of [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/IPXE#What_do_I_enable_and_disable.3F[/url]

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                            haste347
                            last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 4:21 PM

                            [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 42057, member: 21583”]have you tried Tom’s suggestion? [CODE]sudo ufw disable[/CODE][/quote]

                            Yes, disabling the firewall was one of the steps in the config.

                            I’ve got it connected through an un-managed switch for the “imaging bench” (server resides in the same room for now), which connects to the rest of the network/servers through a layer 3 switch.

                            I read somewhere that some switches will only pass a file with a “.0” at the end…I am wondering if that might be the case here…Any thoughts on that?

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                              Junkhacker Developer
                              last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 4:24 PM

                              that’s one of the reasons Jaymes recommends DNSMASQ, i believe there are instructions on the wiki for that scenario

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                                Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 4:42 PM

                                I’ve not heard about switches only passing files matching any sort of pattern (e.g. “*.0”) but you can still give it a try by renaming or linking ‘undionly.kpxe’ to ‘pxelinux.0’ (very common name).

                                But I have heard about layer 3 switches doing some kind of magic like not forwarding but only relaying DHCP offers…

                                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                  Junkhacker Developer
                                  last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 4:50 PM

                                  Jaymes can correct me if i’m getting this wrong, but i believe he had a packet capture that showed switches changing the requested file from undionly.kpxe to undionly.0
                                  to fix the issue, he created a symbolic link between the actual file and the requested file
                                  ln -s /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe [FONT=Tahoma]/tftpboot/undionly.0[/FONT]

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                                    Jaymes Driver Developer
                                    last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 4:56 PM

                                    [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 42074, member: 21583”]Jaymes can correct me if i’m getting this wrong, but i believe he had a packet capture that showed switches changing the requested file from undionly.kpxe to undionly.0
                                    to fix the issue, he created a symbolic link between the actual file and the requested file
                                    ln -s /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe [FONT=Tahoma]/tftpboot/undionly.0[/FONT][/quote]

                                    It is a native function of dnsmasq, not sure why, but it does append the .0 to the file name, not the switches. Just to clarify.

                                    But the resolution was to symlink undionly.kpxe to undionly.0

                                    and it IS part of the installation instructions on the wiki for using DNSMASQ with iPXE.

                                    I have only tried DNSMASQ setup on Novell Netware 6.5 and a simple home network with a linksys router, I don’t have experience in other network environments.

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                                      Junkhacker Developer
                                      last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 5:05 PM

                                      ok, so i got the part about the switches changing the requested file name wrong, but i think i remember someone having problems with switches not passing along undionly.kpxe as a boot file name, i suspect because it doesn’t fit within the 8.3 parameters of the old dos days, but undionly.0 or pxelinux.0 do.

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                                        Tom Elliott
                                        last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 5:30 PM

                                        That was specific the novell dhcp, and a version and below of that.

                                        The thing that sounds most likely that’s happening.

                                        ip-helper is not setup to direct traffic back to the dhcp server to even get the options.

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                                        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                          Jaymes Driver Developer
                                          last edited by Feb 11, 2015, 5:41 PM

                                          [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 42083, member: 7271”]That was specific the novell dhcp, and a version and below of that.

                                          The thing that sounds most likely that’s happening.

                                          ip-helper is not setup to direct traffic back to the dhcp server to even get the options.[/quote]

                                          To be specific Novell Netware 6.5

                                          The only reason I know all this is because My network is sorely outdated. I had to devise a plan to still be able to use FOG and the new iPXE without altering my network because it will not accept certain values.

                                          Matter of fact, Netware 6.5 has a VERY strict 8 character limit that even applies to groups, and usernames, it’s quite cumbersome.

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