FOG doesn't detect the status of the clients

Tom Elliott

FOG Uses port 445 to detect the status of the client machines. This is usually UDP, though I think opening UDP and TCP would help things out.

We use this port as it can give a more direct status than a simple ICMP request.

Hopefully this help.s

Fernando Gietz

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info.

I have disabled the firewall in one client and now the icon appears in green but if I shutdown the client the icon appears in green too

Who detects the status? the FOGPingHosts service? This status is detected on-fly, on demand?

Tom Elliott

@Fernando-Gietz it’s using the fogpinghosts service which is run every 5 minutes I believe.

Fernando Gietz

Umm … Maybe the problem is the number of hosts, if FOGPingHosts service checks all the hosts that are in the hosts table. We have 8192 hosts in this table.

Tom Elliott

@Fernando-Gietz it’s a blocking type system, 5 minutes after the last item is updated is when it runs. It’s not arbitrarily updating every 5 minutes.

Fernando Gietz

Hi Tom,

And how many time takes FOGPingHosts to check the status of 8192 hosts? If FOGPingHost service checks all the hosts and takes 1 second per hosts (for example, then 8192 seconds=136 minutes … Maybe in my case or for huge environments his service is not very useful.

Maybe if the status is checked using other way, for example in the old version (0.30 and early version) the status was checked when you made a search, on demand, will be more useful and practice.

Sebastian Roth

@Fernando-Gietz said in FOG doesn't detect the status of the clients:

Maybe in my case or for huge environments his service is not very useful.

Probably a good point. But I can’t think of a different check that would work through such a load of clients as you’ll always need to wait for timeouts in such an environment. Maybe it’s just wise to disable this service in your case and leave it to that.

Let us know if you have a great idea on how to implement a faster or on demand check. Would the later one be really useful?

Wayne Workman

@Tom-Elliott said in FOG doesn't detect the status of the clients:

FOG Uses port 445 to detect the status of the client machines. This is usually UDP, though I think opening UDP and TCP would help things out.

We use this port as it can give a more direct status than a simple ICMP request.

Hopefully this help.s

#wiki worthy

Fernando Gietz

My sugestion

Don’t use a service to check the status. Is not very useful and eficient. If you want to know the status of one client, you want to know at the moment and not the status of 5 minutes ago.

The old version way was more eficient: after the search and a little timeout, the js script did a ping only over the found clients. Can not call to the Ping class method execute after the search?

pinghosts.class.php

foreach ((array)$hostids as $index => &$hostid) {
                if (false === array_key_exists($index, $hostips)
                    || false === array_key_exists($index, $hostnames)
                ) {
                    continue;
                }
                $ip = $hostips[$index];
                if (filter_var($ip, FILTER_VALIDATE_IP) === false) {
                    $ip = self::resolveHostname($hostnames[$index]);
                }
                if (filter_var($ip, FILTER_VALIDATE_IP) === false) {
                    $ip = $hostnames[$index];
                }
                unset($hostnames[$index], $hostips[$index]);
                $ping = self::getClass('Ping', $ip)
                    ->execute();
                self::getClass('HostManager')
                    ->update(
                        array('id' => $hostid),
                        '',
                        array('pingstatus' => $ping)
                    );

Tom Elliott

@Fernando-Gietz The reason we moved to a service method is because it blocked things from the main page. Say, for example, you have a list of 100 hosts, the Ping that was used before had called out to 4 hosts at a time, in succession. Doing this would seem efficient as long as you stayed on the page long enough for all 100 to update, but if you did not wait, when you clicked on a host from the page it would wait until the prior attempts to retrieve information would return. This could be 1 second or 30 seconds before you could go where you needed to go. Using the service method allows continuous checking without blocking the GUI. I understand it’s not exactly convenient but it works. Using the service it could actually ping around 10 hosts per second, on average. As this item is not a functionally important part of FOG, it makes more sense, too me, to have it as a service. Even if it’s not fully real time, it’s still a fairly good indicator. Maybe I can do the pinging methods a bit faster in the future and make it do so non-blocking even on the service side.

That said, if you want to make it ajax dependent again, it’s not too hard to implement, just remember what it means from a GUI responsiveness point of view. Mind you, this will be much better with 1.6 as we have pagination, so at any time it only really needs to do the ping for the hosts present on the current page.

Fernando Gietz

I think that I will disable it because I have done a tcpdump to see the traffic in the port 445 and the performance is not good. We are very far of 10 hosts per second. 1 hosts per second

# tcpdump port 445 -i ens192
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on ens192, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
13:21:53.447925 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.40826 > u030011.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 2649384977, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588131295 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:54.448890 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.40826 > u030011.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 2649384977, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588132296 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:55.591994 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.48832 > u030012.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3272040579, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588133438 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:56.592905 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.48832 > u030012.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3272040579, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588134440 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:57.724226 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.57840 > u030013.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 1809232999, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588135571 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:58.724890 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.57840 > u030013.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 1809232999, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588136572 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:21:59.797692 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.39344 > u030014.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 969204538, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588137644 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:22:00.798892 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.39344 > u030014.xa.bn.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 969204538, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2588138646 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0

I wiil wait to 1.6 version and see

Fernando Gietz

Hi again,

Only for give more information about this in a huge scenario. In our case the FOGPingHosts service give 4 hours and 30 minutes, more or less, to do ping to all clients.

Capture of the traffic in one client:

18:10:43.216290 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.39006 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3515736006, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2691861063 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
18:10:44.216894 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.39006 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3515736006, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2691862064 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
22:46:19.552188 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.47968 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 14809462, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2708397399 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
22:46:20.552909 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.47968 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 14809462, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2708398400 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
03:19:37.718318 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.51734 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3380421067, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2724795565 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
03:19:38.720889 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.51734 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 3380421067, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2724796568 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:52:47.623417 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.57902 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 1502300674, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2741185470 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:52:48.624903 IP fog7.lgp.ehu.es.57902 > u032668.lgp.ehu.es.microsoft-ds: Flags [S], seq 1502300674, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2741186472 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0

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