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Provisioning Raspberry Pis with FOG

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    george1421 Moderator @george1421
    last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:35 PM

    @george1421 I was personally thinking that it should support network booting, because I have seen projects where they created a supercomputer out of Pi nodes. But I never looked into the mechanics of the super computer.

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      danteHaversham @Junkhacker
      last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:38 PM

      @junkhacker My Pi downloads the bootloader via TFTP and then mounts the OS via NFS. So no SD-Card needed. But I’m looking for a solution to provide the Rasp-Image to SD-Cards via network. So I thought maybe FOG could solve my problem

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        Junkhacker Developer @danteHaversham
        last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:40 PM

        @dantehaversham perhaps my information about the pi is outdated, but how do you choose the boot volume? there is no cmos or bios like system on a pi, is there?

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          danteHaversham @george1421
          last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:44 PM

          @george1421 Yep - but you have to do a little reconfiguration.

          https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/net.md

          The process of making a Pi bootable via network is well documentated.

          I’m using a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B.

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            Junkhacker Developer @danteHaversham
            last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:46 PM

            @dantehaversham ah, just looked it up as well. it’s model pi 3 only. looks like i need to buy some more pi lol

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              danteHaversham @Junkhacker
              last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:48 PM

              @junkhacker yes - with model 3 it’s possible without having a sd-card in use.

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                Junkhacker Developer @danteHaversham
                last edited by Junkhacker Dec 14, 2017, 8:52 AM Dec 14, 2017, 2:51 PM

                @dantehaversham just read some of the documentation on network booting the pi. it should be possible to get this working with fog, actually. with exceptions. it would be able to push images down, but without the finesse that we do on PCs. the ipxe menu systems and dynamic configuration parts wouldn’t work.

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                  george1421 Moderator @danteHaversham
                  last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

                  @dantehaversham OK now that we know the Pi3 can pxe boot. What I want you to do is this.

                  1. Manually register the hardware mac of the network adapter.
                  2. Schedule a debug deploy or capture task. It doesn’t matter which because we are going into debug mode. When you schedule the task be sure to check the debug check box.
                  3. PXE boot the Pi3.
                  4. After a few key presses on the pi’s keyboard you will be dropped to a linux command prompt.
                  5. At the linux command prompt we need to collect a few bits of into.

                  Data to collect

                  1. ip addr show ensure the Pi is getting an IP address in FOS
                  2. lsblk collect what FOS sees for disks

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                    Wayne Workman
                    last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:54 PM

                    I think all the PXE binaries and FOS need compiled for ARM for this to work??

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                      george1421 Moderator @Wayne Workman
                      last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:55 PM

                      @wayne-workman Ugh, good point. I was only thinking ia86 compatible.

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                        Wayne Workman @george1421
                        last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 2:56 PM

                        @george1421 Right, and then there’s the problem of DHCP giving out the right binary, and that binary requesting the right kernel and init.

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                          Junkhacker Developer @Wayne Workman
                          last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 3:42 PM

                          further reading on the new network boot option for the raspberry pi 3 makes me think that it can not be easily made to work with fog. Broadcom is not releasing the source for the network boot files.

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                            Wayne Workman @Junkhacker
                            last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 3:48 PM

                            @junkhacker said in Provisioning Raspberry Pis with FOG:

                            Broadcom is not releasing the source for the network boot files.

                            Broadcom just lost brownie points in the open-source world…

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                              george1421 Moderator @Junkhacker
                              last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 3:53 PM

                              @junkhacker Other issues as Wayne pointed out. The Pi is an ARM processor.

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                              So the ipxe files need to be recompiled for ARM (cortex) processors. From what I found there are ARM compatible iPXE boot files. The developers would need to cross compile the iPXE boot files to include the FOG scripts into ARM version of iPXE.

                              Also FOS is currently based on IA86 arch, meaning FOS (bzImage) and init.zx need to be cross compiled for ARM. I’ve done a little work with buildroot (used to create FOS) and buildroot does support cross compiling for Cortex processors.

                              So technically its possible to have FOG deploy to raspberry pi systems. The last bit we would have to deal with is the motivation of the developers to go down this path. (not speaking for the developers, only my opinion) I’m not seeing the “market share” of deployments required to go down this path. I really see this as a one off solution, were there are other documented and proven ways to deploy to the Pis. I do agree that it would be a really neat feature to add, but again not as a focus for the developers. There are enough issues with new “bleeding-edge” IA86 compatible systems coming out to keep them very busy as it were.
                              [disable brain storming mode]

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                                Wayne Workman @george1421
                                last edited by Dec 14, 2017, 3:59 PM

                                @george1421 said in Provisioning Raspberry Pis with FOG:

                                were there are other documented and proven ways to deploy to the Pis.

                                We have ARM devices we use embedded linux on at work, they have multiple block devices in them (one could substitute with a permanent USB Flash on a Pi). We instruct the devices what block device to boot from. When we want to image, we boot to a special block device that has everything we need to image the other local block device.

                                So, one might say that my current job could possibly use FOG to image ARM devices. But we already have a successful strategy for doing this now.

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                                  MMOD
                                  last edited by Mar 15, 2018, 10:25 PM

                                  here is some one that pxe booted the pi or some thing like pxe
                                  https://blog.mythic-beasts.com/2016/08/05/sneak-preview-from-mythic-labs-raspberry-pi-netboot/

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