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Does the fog client service check for pending tasks for all MACs, or just the active one?

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    nengelhardt
    last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 9:44 PM

    I’m imaging a bunch of netbooks. Once I disconnect them from the ethernet, will they still communicate with FOG okay, or will they not because they’ll be referencing the wireless MAC only? Do I need to add the wireless as an additional MAC? Is there a way to do so automatically so I don’t have to type in the MAC addresses for 100+ netbooks?

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      Joseph Hales Testers
      last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 9:54 PM

      In SVN they will add them selves automatically to an approval list under the wireless mac. When you approve the pending macs they will run tasks as normal under the fog client. This is for name change, add to AD, and snapins tasks; tasks that require pxe boot will not run wirelessly.

      RTFM

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        nengelhardt
        last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 2:30 PM

        In SVN

        That means not in 1.2.0, right?

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          Junkhacker Developer
          last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 3:16 PM

          the client reports all available mac addresses when checking for tasks. this means that, typically, the registered mac is sent with the pending tasks check whether it’s the one being used to connect to the network or not.

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            nengelhardt
            last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 3:20 PM

            the client reports all available mac addresses when checking for tasks. this means that, typically, the registered mac is sent with the pending tasks check whether it’s the one being used to connect to the network or not.

            That’s what I was wondering. Thank you.

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              Trevelyan @Joseph Hales
              last edited by Trevelyan Jun 23, 2015, 2:34 PM Jun 23, 2015, 8:34 PM

              @Joseph-Hales

              Actually - even if the MACs are pending, they are still used even if unapproved. This is a huge problem with VMWare adapter addresses.

              For example: if a host has a pending mac address of 00:50:9c:00:08 and then another host notices it has that same mac address, it will associate itself with that host, adding its own mac address to that host and renaming itself, if hostname changer is enabled.

              Last week was spend unbrokening many broken PCs 🙂

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                Wayne Workman @Trevelyan
                last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 10:21 PM

                @Trevelyan said:

                @Joseph-Hales

                Actually - even if the MACs are pending, they are still used even if unapproved. This is a huge problem with VMWare adapter addresses.

                For example: if a host has a pending mac address of 00:50:9c:00:08 and then another host notices it has that same mac address, it will associate itself with that host, adding its own mac address to that host and renaming itself, if hostname changer is enabled.

                Last week was spend unbrokening many broken PCs 🙂

                wowzers… that sucks.

                What aer the advantages of building images in VMWare? I know that some people do it but I never understood why… just because you can??

                I maintain an image for every model in my building, and I build those images on the physical machines they are destined for… even though I have access to good Hyper-V resources.

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                  nengelhardt
                  last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

                  What aer the advantages of building images in VMWare? I know that some people do it but I never understood why… just because you can??

                  The main advantage, and why I do it, is because you can take a snapshot BEFORE you run sysprep, so that if something is wrong with your unattended file, or you want to update the image and sysprep it again, you can as many times as you want by reverting back to that snapshot. If you don’t, you are limited to sysprepping 3 times per windows installation. It took me a few times to get my unattended.xml right, and being able to update once, push for all is big. My actual method is to build the image, with all the software, in VirtualBox, in audit mode. Then I sysprep /generalize /audit to sysprep it and have it go back into audit mode. Then I upload it to fog from the VM and download it to a physical machine in my office. I boot that one up (into audit mode) and install all the drivers I need, then sysprep again with the answer file “sysprep /oobe /generalize /unattend:unattended.xml” and upload, then multicast to the rest of the physical machines.

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                    Wayne Workman @nengelhardt
                    last edited by Jun 23, 2015, 10:37 PM

                    @nengelhardt

                    I don’t sysprep… However, on that same note… my co-worker was messing around with Windows Deployment Services which requires sys-prep.

                    I remember him getting aggravated about the 3 reboot limit thing… I told him, ok build the image over again… and we will just upload it to FOG for safe keeping. If you need to restart, we can restore it (THEN) in 15 minutes.

                    And now, we’ve ditched WDS in favor of FOG, and because of the awesome compression and upload / download times in FOG Trunk, we often find ourselves doing a pre-upload of images lol… Uploading what we have before we do something risky that you can’t come back from cleanly.

                    Once we verify that what we did works, we delete the early image of course. But, we have reverted to early images a few times.

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                      Junkhacker Developer @Trevelyan
                      last edited by Jun 24, 2015, 2:23 PM

                      @Trevelyan said:

                      @Joseph-Hales

                      Actually - even if the MACs are pending, they are still used even if unapproved. This is a huge problem with VMWare adapter addresses.

                      For example: if a host has a pending mac address of 00:50:9c:00:08 and then another host notices it has that same mac address, it will associate itself with that host, adding its own mac address to that host and renaming itself, if hostname changer is enabled.

                      Last week was spend unbrokening many broken PCs 🙂

                      that sounds like a bug, as that is not the intended operation. did you notify anyone about it (other than this post)?

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                        Tom Elliott @Junkhacker
                        last edited by Jun 24, 2015, 2:40 PM

                        @Junkhacker he has reported it and I am looking into it as we speak.

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                          Wayne Workman @Junkhacker
                          last edited by Jun 24, 2015, 2:46 PM

                          @Junkhacker Another guy made a thread about it, too… https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/5284/bug-pending-mac-addresses-being-used-and-not-being-approved-and-broken-filter

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                            Trevelyan @Wayne Workman
                            last edited by Jun 24, 2015, 3:26 PM

                            @Wayne-Workman

                            Same guy 😉

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                              Wayne Workman @Trevelyan
                              last edited by Jun 24, 2015, 3:37 PM

                              @Trevelyan Oh lol…

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                                nengelhardt @Wayne Workman
                                last edited by nengelhardt Jun 30, 2015, 3:02 PM Jun 30, 2015, 9:02 PM

                                @Wayne-Workman said:

                                @nengelhardt

                                I don’t sysprep… However, on that same note… my co-worker was messing around with Windows Deployment Services which requires sys-prep.

                                I remember him getting aggravated about the 3 reboot limit thing… I told him, ok build the image over again… and we will just upload it to FOG for safe keeping. If you need to restart, we can restore it (THEN) in 15 minutes.

                                And now, we’ve ditched WDS in favor of FOG, and because of the awesome compression and upload / download times in FOG Trunk, we often find ourselves doing a pre-upload of images lol… Uploading what we have before we do something risky that you can’t come back from cleanly.

                                Once we verify that what we did works, we delete the early image of course. But, we have reverted to early images a few times.

                                Yeah, I found the speed difference in snapshot vs. upload is well worth building it in a VM, but I suppose if that’s your style then go ahead.

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