• Recent
  • Unsolved
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
  • Recent
  • Unsolved
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login

Remote Imaging -- Will FOG Work?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
FOG Problems
7
22
13.6k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • W
    Wayne Workman
    last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:06 PM

    [quote=“Alex Elkins, post: 42365, member: 28621”]The only equipment we have laying around (mostly) are computers that we use for backup in bad situations. I will speak with my manager about purchasing smaller stations to use for this.

    I guess my biggest misunderstanding is how will I get those computers to connect to my FOG master to get an image? How will everything be connected?

    Here’s what I’m thinking:

    Master connects to storage nodes
    Workstations talk with storage nodes
    Master sends reimage request to storage node
    Storage node reimages workstations

    So, in essence, the storage node handles the PXE/TFTP portion on their end. The master and storage nodes just connect somehow to transfer their information, and I think that is where it gets muddy in my head.

    Do the storage nodes handle the PXE/TFTP, or would that need pushed somewhere else? Also, the DHCP server at each location has no knowledge of the FOG master’s network…is that an issue?[/quote]

    I updated my first post to point out some other issues.

    Others would have to help you with the storage node questions, as I only use one FOG machine at one location currently.
    But, I still think your best bet is putting in older machines at each location.

    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
    Daily Clean Installation Results:
    https://fogtesting.fogproject.us/
    FOG Reporting:
    https://fog-external-reporting-results.fogproject.us/

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • W
      Wayne Workman
      last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:10 PM

      And,

      No matter what route you choose, I think you’re going to have to get some sort of VPN going (as [URL=‘http://fogproject.org/forum/members/uncle-frank.28116/’][SIZE=11px][COLOR=#969696]Uncle Frank[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL] asked about) just for the systems to communicate properly.

      Unless, all the machines you put in at the 70 locations are completely independent. This would mean having some sort of remote-desktop software running on them all the time, that works across the internet. TeamViewer wouldn’t be ideal as you need an access code from the target machine for each instance.

      Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
      Daily Clean Installation Results:
      https://fogtesting.fogproject.us/
      FOG Reporting:
      https://fog-external-reporting-results.fogproject.us/

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • A
        Alex Elkins
        last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:11 PM

        [quote=“Wayne Workman, post: 42371, member: 28155”]I updated my first post to point out some other issues.

        Others would have to help you with the storage node questions, as I only use one FOG machine at one location currently.
        But, I still think your best bet is putting in older machines at each location.[/quote]

        Okay, I understand your suggestion. Wouldn’t moving the images from the master to the storage node still use up the same amount of bandwidth, but only one time (or however many times you push a new image to the storage node)?

        E: Site-to-site VPN or what?

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • W
          Wayne Workman
          last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:17 PM

          [quote=“Alex Elkins, post: 42373, member: 28621”]Okay, I understand your suggestion. Wouldn’t moving the images from the master to the storage node still use up the same amount of bandwidth, but only one time (or however many times you push a new image to the storage node)?

          E: Site-to-site VPN or what?[/quote]

          I was figuring that since he must go to each site anyways to set up the storage nodes, might as well take a copy of the needed images with him on a flash drive, and copy them where they should be, and make the necessary changes for it to work.

          Also, if a transfer from master to storage node is necessary, this can be scheduled during off-peak hours… like over the weekend, overnight on Sunday night… whatever works best. This still has tremendous benefit.

          Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
          Daily Clean Installation Results:
          https://fogtesting.fogproject.us/
          FOG Reporting:
          https://fog-external-reporting-results.fogproject.us/

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J
            Junkhacker Developer
            last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:19 PM

            there are ways you could make fog work for your situation, but it would take some work. I’ve done something along these lines as an experiment on a feature in development, but you honestly might want to look at different solutions unless you’re convinced fog is the way to go.

            signature:
            Junkhacker
            We are here to help you. If you are unresponsive to our questions, don't expect us to be responsive to yours.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • W
              Wayne Workman
              last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:21 PM

              [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 42375, member: 21583”]there are ways you could make fog work for your situation, but it would take some work. I’ve done something along these lines as an experiment on a feature in development, but you honestly might want to look at different solutions unless you’re convinced fog is the way to go.[/quote]

              He hit on the “Cost” factor pretty hard…

              Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
              Daily Clean Installation Results:
              https://fogtesting.fogproject.us/
              FOG Reporting:
              https://fog-external-reporting-results.fogproject.us/

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • T
                Tom Elliott
                last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:28 PM

                Don’t forget, what you’re talking about is completely capable (multiple nodes at separate locations, but managed by a central “server”) is 100% possible using location plugin. This is EXACTLY what it was designed for.

                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • A
                  Alex Elkins
                  last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:40 PM

                  This post is deleted!
                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • T
                    Tom Elliott
                    last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:42 PM

                    yes

                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                    Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • W
                      Wolfbane8653 Developer
                      last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 5:55 PM

                      [quote=“Wayne Workman, post: 42363, member: 28155”]I’m going to take a stab at this question. I’ve been using FOG for about 2 months now, it’s working great.

                      So, you don’t want a storage node at each location because of cost.
                      My solution to that is to just put a storage node at each location.

                      It doesn’t need to be anything fancy. An old dual-core with a gigabit interface will get the job done just fine. You could even go with an old P4 with Hyper Threading. It’d be slower, but still.[/quote]

                      It is also possible to install fog on a [URL=‘http://www.raspberrypi.org/’]Raspberry Pi[/URL]. This could be a cheap solution for you. As of now we have only tested and checked that it has installed correctly on a Pi. But the investment is around $50 a Pi and could possibly be a solution for you. The Pi can sit right next to the router and plugin to the same power strip.

                      Of course we would be willing to help you at every turn.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • W
                        Wayne Workman
                        last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 6:35 PM

                        [quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 42382, member: 3362”]It is also possible to install fog on a [URL=‘http://www.raspberrypi.org/’]Raspberry Pi[/URL]. This could be a cheap solution for you. As of now we have only tested and checked that it has installed correctly on a Pi. But the investment is around $50 a Pi and could possibly be a solution for you. The Pi can sit right next to the router and plugin to the same power strip.

                        Of course we would be willing to help you at every turn.[/quote]

                        Now that’s a solution!

                        I vote for this one.

                        Clearly, you should just buy 1 at first, and we can get that working and go from there.

                        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
                        Daily Clean Installation Results:
                        https://fogtesting.fogproject.us/
                        FOG Reporting:
                        https://fog-external-reporting-results.fogproject.us/

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • J
                          Junkhacker Developer
                          last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 7:15 PM

                          as much as i like playing with Raspberry Pi’s, i don’t think they’re a good solution to this problem. a refurbished desktop can be had for a little more then the cost of the Pi, and it will have gigabit Ethernet and can take a real hard drive.

                          signature:
                          Junkhacker
                          We are here to help you. If you are unresponsive to our questions, don't expect us to be responsive to yours.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • T
                            Tom Elliott
                            last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 7:28 PM

                            You could also look into the Banana Pi (has a GIG network on it)

                            Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                            Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                            Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • S
                              Sebastian Roth Moderator
                              last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 9:19 PM

                              And there’s still the “connection” problem. Either you use dyn-DNS and port forwarding (all unencrypted) to connect the FOG servers located at different sites or you go the “long way” of setting up vpn gateways everywhere…

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • S
                                Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                last edited by Feb 18, 2015, 9:43 PM

                                This post is deleted!
                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Mark SheltonM
                                  Mark Shelton
                                  last edited by Apr 29, 2015, 5:36 AM

                                  Hi, I’ve had this working since 2012. Basically I have 3 Fogservers, the master where I am based, and 2 others, one about 1/2 hour away and the other an hour away. The 3 sites are connected with IPSec tunnel.
                                  I upload an image to the local FOgserver and it replicates slowly across the tunnel to the remote sites. Once transferred, I can \ then create an image task for a remote PC. From there I can run a script on the remote PC which forces it to PXE boot and it gets reimaged.
                                  Maks a couple of customisations and its good to go. HOWEVER, since FOG 1.2 the transfers across the IPSec tunnel have been slower and occasionally stop, which is very frustrating especially since the transfers take over a day to complete!

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Tom ElliottT
                                    Tom Elliott
                                    last edited by Apr 29, 2015, 8:19 AM

                                    How are replication tasks working? Nothing changed directly in how things transfer. The speed or lack of it sounds environmental more than something fog is doing or did.

                                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                                    Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • 1
                                    • 2
                                    • 1 / 2
                                    • First post
                                      Last post

                                    224

                                    Online

                                    12.0k

                                    Users

                                    17.3k

                                    Topics

                                    155.2k

                                    Posts
                                    Copyright © 2012-2024 FOG Project