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Recommended guide for Windows 10 image creation (from scratch) ?

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    mr626
    last edited by Mar 9, 2016, 2:05 AM

    I have searched both these forums and the wider internet, but haven’t really come up with much on this topic, other than maybe this:

    http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3020-windows-10-image-customize-audit-mode-sysprep.html

    (I suspect my google search terms are not that good- there has got to be plenty of people out there that have already dealt with this?)

    Basically, I’d like to start work on a new standard operating environment image for our organisation. Would be based around Windows 10 Enterprise x64, and activate against our KMS server. Obviously, would be using FOG to capture / deploy the image 🙂

    Last time I created an image from scratch was for Windows 7 (our currently in-production SOE). So I have a little experience with sysprep, answer files etc.

    I guess I am being lazy and hoping there is a good step-by-step guide to preparing a Windows 10 SOE image already!

    Suggestions / advise much appreciated. Thanks

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      d4rk3
      last edited by Mar 9, 2016, 2:37 AM

      https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/3945/sysprep-windows-8-1-image-and-upload-to-fog-1-2/2

      None of the steps have changed on Windows 10. I still use my 8.1 answer files when sysprepping 10 🙂

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        mr626 @d4rk3
        last edited by mr626 Mar 8, 2016, 9:28 PM Mar 9, 2016, 2:43 AM

        @d4rk3

        Ah, I did wonder about that! As mentioned, I’ve not ever played with 8.1 (from a SOE point of view anyway) so I haven’t created 8.1 answer files etc yet.

        Edit: going through the thread you mentioned and the links within, I found a Windows 10 specific guide on the same site:

        http://theitbros.com/sysprep-windows-10-machine-guide/

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          d4rk3 @mr626
          last edited by Mar 9, 2016, 11:40 AM

          @mr626 Awesome, I’m glad they’re keeping their site up to date. Cheers!

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            MRCUR Testers @mr626
            last edited by Mar 10, 2016, 1:13 PM

            @mr626 FYI - Their step 6 is wrong. See here: https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/6720/image-windows-10-upgrade/5

            Also see here for existing sysprep info on Win 10 - https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/5873/windows-10-unattend-xml-sysprep-answer-file-challenge/2

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              St.Nikolai
              last edited by St.Nikolai May 6, 2016, 9:12 AM May 6, 2016, 3:11 PM

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                x23piracy
                last edited by x23piracy May 13, 2016, 3:15 AM May 13, 2016, 9:14 AM

                Hi,

                i do the following, install Win 10 with latest Media Creation Builder iso,
                when Setup asks for Express Settings press STRG + SHIFT + F3 to enter audit mode.

                Client will reboot and logon with embedded administrator account, install and change anything you want.

                Then sysprep /oobe /generalize /shutdown /unattend:c:\unattend.xml

                Now you can create the image.

                For an unattend file i recommend this site: http://windowsafg.no-ip.org/win10x86_x64.html
                dont forget to add the copyprofile option to your unattend.xml else it will not copy your adit profil to default user.

                Do not uninstall modern apps in windows 10 only remove them from startmenu, you get messed when removing staged apps.

                If you ever wnat to rework the image, deploy it somewhere and then go back to audit mode with sysprep /audit /reboot
                then delete all created profiles and users except build in administrator do your changes and sysprep again

                sysprep /oobe /generalize /shutdown /unattend:c:\unattend.xml

                Regards X23

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                  URfog @x23piracy
                  last edited by May 31, 2016, 7:07 AM

                  @x23piracy said in Recommended guide for Windows 10 image creation (from scratch) ?:

                  Hi,

                  i do the following, install Win 10 with latest Media Creation Builder iso,
                  when Setup asks for Express Settings press STRG + SHIFT + F3 to enter audit mode.

                  Client will reboot and logon with embedded administrator account, install and change anything you want.

                  Then sysprep /oobe /generalize /shutdown /unattend:c:\unattend.xml

                  Now you can create the image.

                  For an unattend file i recommend this site: http://windowsafg.no-ip.org/win10x86_x64.html
                  dont forget to add the copyprofile option to your unattend.xml else it will not copy your adit profil to default user.

                  Do not uninstall modern apps in windows 10 only remove them from startmenu, you get messed when removing staged apps.

                  If you ever wnat to rework the image, deploy it somewhere and then go back to audit mode with sysprep /audit /reboot
                  then delete all created profiles and users except build in administrator do your changes and sysprep again

                  sysprep /oobe /generalize /shutdown /unattend:c:\unattend.xml

                  Regards X23

                  Hi @x23piracy , Would you tell what version of W10 are you using?

                  Thanks in advance

                  SERVER

                  OS: Debian 9.6
                  Fog version: FOG 1.5.5

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                    x23piracy @URfog
                    last edited by x23piracy May 31, 2016, 1:11 AM May 31, 2016, 7:10 AM

                    @URfog sure, Windows 10 Pro via MS Media Creation Tool (iso). I also found a way to remove all store apps except the store itself without getting sysprep problems.

                    Regards X23

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                      URfog
                      last edited by May 31, 2016, 11:59 AM

                      Thank you so much, I’ve been dealing with the unattend file for days with no result and thsi page saved me from disaster

                      Bye

                      SERVER

                      OS: Debian 9.6
                      Fog version: FOG 1.5.5

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                        Scott Adams @x23piracy
                        last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 5:31 PM

                        @x23piracy How did you go about doing this? I’m running into an issue with sysprep anytime I try to remove a Windows 10 app. It sure would be nice to not have those pesky apps in my image.

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                        • george1421G
                          george1421 Moderator @Scott Adams
                          last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 5:42 PM

                          @Scott-Adams How are you removing this applications? You have to uninstall them from the current users and then remove them from the system. The last time I built a win10 reference image (on CBB 1511) I was able to do it and sysprep without any issues, but I used a powershell script to extract the unwanted applications.

                          Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                            x23piracy @Scott Adams
                            last edited by x23piracy Sep 30, 2016, 1:54 PM Sep 30, 2016, 7:49 PM

                            Hi,

                            @Scott-Adams said in Recommended guide for Windows 10 image creation (from scratch) ?:

                            @x23piracy How did you go about doing this? I’m running into an issue with sysprep anytime I try to remove a Windows 10 app. It sure would be nice to not have those pesky apps in my image.

                            Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | where-object {$_.name –notlike “*store*” -And $_.packagename –notlike “*culator*”} | Remove-AppxPackage
                            Get-appxprovisionedpackage –online | where-object {$_.packagename –notlike “*store*” -And $_.packagename –notlike “*culator*”} | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online
                            

                            I did this based on 1511 and updated later to 1607, i always restore my image to a virtual box to rework on it and then i also do actual windows updates… so i was coming with that script above from 1511 just FYI…

                            I would like to keep store and new calculator, if you remove the new calc anyway you need to install windows 7 calculator for windows 10…if you need a calc app, in business you will. ;): http://winaero.com/blog/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-windows-7-in-windows-10/

                            Regards X23

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                            • adukes40A
                              adukes40
                              last edited by Oct 1, 2016, 3:37 PM

                              Anyone played with the LTSB version of Win10 in their environment?

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                              • george1421G
                                george1421 Moderator @adukes40
                                last edited by george1421 Oct 1, 2016, 10:01 AM Oct 1, 2016, 3:52 PM

                                @adukes40 Yes. I suspect the 2016 one should be in the works soon. I think 2015 LTSB dropped in Nov of 2015.

                                But right now CBB 1607 has issues with WSUS updates not applying, so I suspect they are trying to nail that one down first. (edit: Actually I just found an article that says LTSB 2016 will be released on Oct 1 [today]. Its unclear if that date is still valid or not).

                                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                • adukes40A
                                  adukes40
                                  last edited by Oct 1, 2016, 3:53 PM

                                  do you use it, George?

                                  george1421G 1 Reply Last reply Oct 1, 2016, 3:58 PM Reply Quote 0
                                  • george1421G
                                    george1421 Moderator @adukes40
                                    last edited by george1421 Oct 1, 2016, 9:58 AM Oct 1, 2016, 3:58 PM

                                    @adukes40 Only in the dev lab. We are not quite ready to roll it out to the organization. But it does work in the dev labs. We are still fine tuning the GPOs to get them to work like we want them.

                                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                    • adukes40A
                                      adukes40 @george1421
                                      last edited by Oct 1, 2016, 4:01 PM

                                      @george1421 thats good to hear, I was thinking about using LTSB instead of Education, because of its simplicity. Don’t have to worry about the apps, or store, and all that mess.

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                                      • george1421G
                                        george1421 Moderator @adukes40
                                        last edited by george1421 Oct 1, 2016, 10:54 AM Oct 1, 2016, 4:04 PM

                                        @adukes40 We went with LTSB for a few reasons, not having the consumer apps was one, the other was the longer refresh cycle. CBB will force an update even if you mark it to delay the upgrade. The force update will be 6 months after the current release was released. We have to verify each of our core applications work before we can release an new OS and twice a year is a little much OS thrashing. As soon as we would get one version tested and approved we would have to start on the next release. That is a bit crazy.

                                        [edit] FWIW: I was just able to get CBB 1607 to create cleanly with mdt and windows updates after a bit of hacking about. The late sept 1607 cume update and setting the delivery optimization to 100d fixed the wsus updates getting stuck issue.

                                        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                          Scott Adams @george1421
                                          last edited by Tom Elliott Oct 3, 2016, 7:16 AM Oct 3, 2016, 12:33 PM

                                          @george1421 I’m doing it from audit mode, so there is only the default administrator account at that time.

                                          I uninstall the user app and the provisioned app using a powershell script. An example of my script is:

                                          Get-appxpackage *3dbuilder* | Remove-AppxPackage
                                          Get-appxprovisionedpackage –online | where-object {$_.packagename –like "*3dbuilder*"} | remove-appxprovisionedpackage –online
                                          Get-appxpackage *windowsalarms* | Remove-AppxPackage
                                          Get-appxprovisionedpackage –online | where-object {$_.packagename –like "*windowsalarms*"} | remove-appxprovisionedpackage –online
                                          

                                          Tom Elliott – Modded to use code format. Asterisks italicize the font in MD language.

                                          S george1421G 2 Replies Last reply Oct 3, 2016, 12:34 PM Reply Quote 0
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