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    • Wayne WorkmanW
      Wayne Workman @Tom Elliott
      last edited by

      @Tom-Elliott said:

      @szecca1 are you 100% sure that 10.2.255.255 is that networks broadcast address?

      If the info he gave me is correct, I can assure that what we came up with is correct, but feel free to doublecheck my work using third party tools: http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ip-subnet-calculator.php

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        szecca1 @Wayne Workman
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        @Wayne-Workman As long as all you needed was a random IP address and the subnet that info is correct. The only thing weird is the website you sent is saying we are a class A even though we are a class B.

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        • Tom ElliottT
          Tom Elliott
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          That’s often the case class a class B classy are usually directed by the first octet one through 126.whatever is considered class a, 128.whatever through 191.whatever is considered class b,192 up is class c

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            szecca1 @Tom Elliott
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            @Tom-Elliott ok that makes sense, and I ran another test and still wake on lan is not working. At this point I am not sure what to do. The imaging works perfectly but the clients have to be on in order for the imaging to go through, obviously.

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            • Wayne WorkmanW
              Wayne Workman
              last edited by Wayne Workman

              Your public IP might be a Class B address…

              But internally, you have Class A addressing via NAT.

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                szecca1 @Wayne Workman
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                @Wayne-Workman “The three default subnet masks are 255.0.0.0 for Class A, 255.255.0.0 for class B, and 255.255.255.0 for Class C.”

                From this my impression is we have a class B subnet mask but I could be wrong, but I dont think this matters as whichever class it is, wake on lan isnt working lol

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                • Wayne WorkmanW
                  Wayne Workman @szecca1
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                  @szecca1

                  OK… troubleshooting time I suppose.

                  You need to find a utility that will send a wake-on-lan packet to your desired IP address… (the broadcast address).

                  Then,
                  Go on site and see if you can broadcast a WOL packet and see if computers start up. If it works, then your switches / router configurations are to blame.

                  If it doesn’t work… maybe make sure WOL is enabled on those computers… maybe try to WOL an individual client and see if that works.

                  Report back and we will go from there.

                  I’d recommend trying this one:
                  http://sourceforge.net/projects/aquilawol/

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                    szecca1 @Wayne Workman
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                    @Wayne-Workman I just downloaded this program and tested it exactly how you had asked and the computer wakes up perfectly fine. I then turned it off and attempted to wake on lan again from FOG and again to no avail. So you’re saying it’s a switch/router config thats to blame but I am not sure where that could be.

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                    • cmlC
                      cml Moderator
                      last edited by cml

                      One thing you can try is sending the packet from the command line with wakeonlan

                      wakeonlan 28:D2:44:0C:D9:9B
                      Sending magic packet to 255.255.255.255:9 with 28:D2:44:0C:D9:9B
                      

                      Do you have wireshark? If so set the filter to wol and see if you get a packet, if not your switches may be blocking it.

                      Here were the relevent Cisco commands I had to set on our 4500:

                      ***fogserver vlan***
                      interface Vlan2					
                       ip helper-address 10.2.255.255
                      !
                      ***high network vlan***
                      interface Vlan1					
                       ip helper-address 10.1.0.119
                       ip directed-broadcast 101
                      !
                      ip forward-protocol udp echo
                      ip forward-protocol udp discard
                      
                      access-list 101 permit udp host 10.1.0.119 any eq echo
                      access-list 101 permit udp host 10.1.0.119 any eq discard
                      
                      
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                        szecca1 @cml
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                        @cml Capture.PNG
                        I attempted to do that and by the image you see I tried exactly the same thing and the computer doesnt turn on.
                        I have wireshark but have never used the program to know how to filter to wol

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                        • cmlC
                          cml Moderator @szecca1
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                          @szecca1

                          In wireshark first select your connection and then click start
                          upload-e49875ba-fccb-4db4-bd77-9fbaf92d62fe

                          Once started type wol into the filter box and click on apply.

                          This is what it looks like when I send a wol:
                          upload-9b5bc60e-7570-4aff-83dc-0481f839b087

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                            szecca1 @cml
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                            @cml Capture.PNG

                            Ok i did exactly what you said. the top one is from a computer in the 10.1.x.x address and the bottom one which is the one that worked is from the 10.2.x.x address.

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                            • cmlC
                              cml Moderator
                              last edited by

                              The top one is on the same subnet as your fog server correct?

                              Try running wireshark on the bottom machine (i assume it is on the same subnet as your target), but send the wol from your fog server.

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                                szecca1 @cml
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                                @cml You are correct, the top one is on the same vlan as the fog server.

                                I just ran wireshark on the bottom machine and ran wol from the fog server and wireshark didnt pick anything up

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                                • cmlC
                                  cml Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Your switch is not forwarding the packets across subnets. Do you know what manufacture/model your L3 device is?

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                                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                                    Wayne Workman
                                    last edited by

                                    I thought this article was pretty good.
                                    http://theithollow.com/2012/04/how-to-broadcast-across-subnets/

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                                      szecca1 @cml
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                                      @cml My layer 3 device is Nortel 8010

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                                      • cmlC
                                        cml Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Not familiar with Nortel’s configuration, but there is this post:

                                        http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/02/wake-on-lan-and-directed-broadcast/

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                                          szecca1 @cml
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                                          @cml I double checked and we already enabled that portion of the switch and still nothing. But I did find a configuration on the switch from broadcast addresses and nothing is listed. Do you think if I entered the broadcast address there,the passport would then allow the packets to pass through the VLANs?

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                                          • Wayne WorkmanW
                                            Wayne Workman @szecca1
                                            last edited by

                                            @szecca1 Try it and see.

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