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    • K
      KMEH @Florent
      last edited by

      @Florent Hi Florent,

      I actually have been meaning to look into this some more, but the likely answer is no, or at least, not entirely. The way that support works is, you download a signed iPXE 2.0 binary from iPXE and a copy of their signed shim. That shim is signed with the Microsoft keys and trusts the iPXE signing keys. What this means in practical terms is, all the steps above would still need to occur, it’s just that the signing of the iPXE binary is managed by iPXE, and you don’t need to enroll a key to boot iPXE.

      That said, I would imagine this only covers you for booting iPXE, any chainloaded binaries would still need to be signed either with Microsoft’s key or a MOK key you’ve enrolled on the machine. In FOG’s case this means the FOS kernel has to be signed and trusted on the system, in addition to any other binaries (for example memtest, refind) you plan to boot via FOG.

      The other likely blocker is the build itself. Naturally, only iPXE can sign binaries that the iPXE Shim will support. Currently the FOG installer actually builds a slightly modified iPXE binary from source. While I’m unsure if these are all that different from the pre-built binaries from 2.0 in terms of support and functionality, it would at the very least need to be changed to instead pull the iPXE 2.0 binaries.

      I don’t think any of these are particularly hard to overcome or deal with though. The bottom line is, 2.0 makes it easier, but only to a point. To get real proper Secure Boot support in FOG, they’ll likely need to generate their own signing keys, and start signing at least the FOS kernels (if not iPXE itself) and update FOG to include shim support somehow.

      That said, for basic support, I doubt they would need to go the full mile and get a Microsoft approved signing key, I think distributing a certificate/key you can enroll via MokManager and using a pre-existing signed shim (like the iPXE provided one) would more than suffice for most usecases. I’m not sure how difficult it would actually be to implement any of this into FOG, that’s a question for someone who knows PHP and is more familiar with the FOG codebase than I.

      Sorry if that’s a bit long winded, it’s not an easy topic to distill. Hope that helps though.

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        jmeyer @Florent
        last edited by jmeyer

        @Florent @KMEH
        First problem I see in the ipxe release is “x86-64 UEFI Secure Boot only”.
        So, if SB is not enable, it doesn’t work at all ?
        It also means that we need to make a SB check to say what efi file the computer need to use ?

        I’ll have some time this week, I’ll try make some tests.

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          KMEH @jmeyer
          last edited by

          @jmeyer I haven’t tested it at all myself, but I wonder if that is referring to the fact that if Secure Boot is turned on all binaries (even the chainloaded ones such as the linux kernel) must be Secure Boot compatible. I’ll be interested to hear of your tests.

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            jmeyer
            last edited by jmeyer

            Here is my first steps.

            Install signing tools on your FOG server

            apt update
            apt install sbsigntool openssl mokutil
            

            Install shim & grub

            apt install shim-signed grub-efi-amd64-signed
            cp /usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed /tftpboot/shimx64.efi
            cp /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi-signed/grubx64.efi.signed /tftpboot/grubx64.efi
            

            I end with this at PXE boot :
            9bc4ee10-4d23-4310-985a-2f77069082f2-image.png

            Shim signature give this : (sbverify --list shimx64.efi)

            warning: data remaining[831016 vs 957136]: gaps between PE/COFF sections?
            signature 1
            image signature issuers:
             - /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
            image signature certificates:
             - subject: /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Windows UEFI Driver Publisher
               issuer:  /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
             - subject: /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
               issuer:  /C=US/ST=Washington/L=Redmond/O=Microsoft Corporation/CN=Microsoft Corporation Third Party Marketplace Root
            

            and grub sinature return :

            signature 1
            image signature issuers:
             - /CN=Debian Secure Boot CA
            image signature certificates:
             - subject: /CN=Debian Secure Boot Signer 2022 - grub2
               issuer:  /CN=Debian Secure Boot CA
            

            I tried creating MOK key but I’m stuck with security violation :

            mkdir /root/secureboot
            cd /root/secureboot
            openssl req -new -x509 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout FOG-MOK.key -out FOG-MOK.crt -nodes -days 3650 -subj "/CN=FOG Secure Boot/"
            openssl x509 -in FOG-MOK.crt -outform DER -out FOG-MOK.der
            

            FOG-MOK.key <-- private key (protect!)
            FOG-MOK.crt
            FOG-MOK.der <-- enroll this on clients

            Sign ipxe.efi and rename it to grubx64.efi

            cd /tftpboot
            cp ipxe.efi ipxe.efi.original
            sbsign --key /root/secureboot/FOG-MOK.key --cert /root/secureboot/FOG-MOK.crt /tftpboot/ipxe.efi --output /tftpboot/ipxe-signed.efi
            cp ipxe-signed.efi grubx64.efi
            

            I think I need to work more and as Fog default exit type is refind, I’ll make more research.

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              jmeyer
              last edited by jmeyer

              I remplaced grubx64 by grubnetx64 (not sure if needed but was recommanded for PXE) and create a “grub” directory in tftpboot with “grub.cfg” inside.
              Grub signed look for cfg file in a subdir called “grub” by default.

              cp /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi-signed/grubnetx64.efi.signed /tftpboot/grubx64.efi
              mkdir /tftpboot/grub
              chmod -R a+rX /tftpboot/grub
              

              I get grub menu.

              update (10 am) :
              I copied snponly.efi in grub directory and signed it with the FOG-MOK key I generated before.

              sbsign --key /root/secureboot/FOG-MOK.key --cert /root/secureboot/FOG-MOK.crt /tftpboot/snponly.efi --output /tftpboot/grub/snponly.efi
              

              I end with “error ; bad shim signature”.
              I think I need to import the key on the computer with command “mokutil --import /chemin/vers/FOG-MOK.der”

              I keep on searching…

              2nd update (12:30 am):

              To enroll key :

              cp /usr/lib/shim/mmx64.efi.signed /tftpboot/mmx64.efi
              

              and in tftpboot/grub/grub.cfg

              menuentry 'Enroll MOK' {
                  insmod tftp
                  insmod chain
                  chainloader (tftp,192.168.69.10)/mmx64.efi
                  boot
              }
              
              menuentry 'Boot FOG (iPXE)' {
                  insmod efinet
                  insmod tftp
                  insmod chain
                  net_bootp
                  chainloader (tftp,192.168.69.10)/grub/snponly.efi
                  boot
              }
              

              Copy the .der on usb key, put it on the computer, run “Enroll MOK” in pxe grub menu then “Enroll from disk”
              Reboot and run “Boot FOG” in pxe menu.

              And at least I have the FOG menu ! 😎
              I think I’m in the right way. 😅

              Let’s keep on working.

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                KMEH @jmeyer
                last edited by

                @jmeyer Good work. So far looks very similar to what I was doing above but with grub instead. I’m guessing you’re aiming for something along the lines of the archived project you mentioned earlier that did this. Make sure you modify your ipxe scripts to load the shim with the shim command, and then sign whatever you’re booting from ipxe and you should be more or less there.

                It’s worth noting if you want you should be able to skip the grub stage entirely, if you load the shim directly and name your ipxe binary what you’re grub binary currently is you should be able to net boot any shim pretty easily, from there the shim can automatically call mok manager as long as it’s in the same directory as your shim.

                Sorry for responding so late. I’m out on training this week.

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                  KMEH @KMEH
                  last edited by

                  So, somehow this slipped by my radar, but this guide is now largely obsolete! Pretty much everything done here now seems to be automatically handled by FOG after the transition to iPXE 2.0. FOG will now generate it’s own signing keys and seemingly sign the kernels for you, and provides a dedicated boot menu entry to enroll keys via MOK! I’ve yet to test this myself so happy to be corrected if I’m missing anything here.

                  Additionally, it looks like you can pretty easily migrate existing keys into this setup with some install parameters. I’ll be updating my ansible role to acomodate these changes soon!

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                    Tom Elliott @KMEH
                    last edited by

                    @KMEH This wasn’t somehow. partly it was yours (among all the others) requests for secure boot and some max access to claude that really helped get this more flushed out more properly.

                    And a lot of mind tossing to get there.

                    Hopefully you enjoy it and like it (everyone).

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                      KMEH @Tom Elliott
                      last edited by KMEH

                      @Tom-Elliott Haha thank you! I was more referring to it slipping past my radar… I’m not sure how I missed it being added to be honest, I’d even read the patchnotes for that version of FOG and missed it.

                      I’m glad my attempts were able to help get this implemented one way or another. I’m going to update my ansible role as it’s currently broken due to the changes (it manually rebuilt iPXE itself with some files from the FOG repo which have now been removed due to the transition to 2.0 so that no longer works), and then I’ll give it a whirl.

                      Out of interest, I assume that like the other install time parameters this can be set by the .fogsettings file rather than the command line. I had a look in the docs and I can’t see a matching parameter listed, but I’m not sure if that’s because it isn’t supported or just the docs having not been updated yet.

                      The role uses templating with the .fogsettings file for the majority of the settings (it’s easier than conditionally setting command line parameters), so I’d much prefer to be able to adjust this from the file if I can!

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                        Tom Elliott @KMEH
                        last edited by

                        @KMEH This might be able to help:
                        https://docs.fogproject.org/en/latest/management/server/install-fogsettings/

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                          KMEH @Tom Elliott
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                          @Tom-Elliott Ah yes, thanks. That’s what I was looking for. I was checking on that page but I couldn’t find it, even did a ctrl+f for secure boot. I wonder if it was an old cache or something, weird!

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