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    • george1421G
      george1421 Moderator @saftkartoffel
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      @saftkartoffel said in Clear block out of boundary:

      The setting in the fog web interface is a MacOS image, single disk all partition unresizeable. And compressed with zstd.
      My other concern is the fog server storage since it has around 860gigs available space where it capturing a whole 1tb of golden master drive

      Ok you are already using non-resizable so its not at the point of calculating how to shrink the disk. I would run the structure check just to be sure.

      As for disk size zstd will help here. Set your compression level to 11 if its not at least 11 this will help. If you use the standard compression ratio of 1.6 that 1TiB disk should fit onto the fog server at 625GB. Now that assumes your hard drive is 100% full of data with no free space. zstd should be able to compress better than 1.6:1 compression as well as I bet your 1TiB hard drive is not 100% full. So 800GB should be more than enough.

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        saftkartoffel @george1421
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        @george1421 well it kills my joy and hope after seeing the partclone part 😖

        I guess i’ll try the structure check tomorrow
        Thank you for the advice george. I’ll update the results tommorow

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          saftkartoffel
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          crap I think it gotta do with the AFPS file format

          https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/support-requests/98/?page=1

          It is a known issues on partclone itself with AFPS file format.

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          • george1421G
            george1421 Moderator @saftkartoffel
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            @saftkartoffel Looking through that link, some things come to mind.

            1. The fog project is using the latest partclone so if there is a fix it should be in there, but based on your linked article its probably not.
            2. Something else popped out, is this disk using any type of encryption? In a typical system the efi partition is not encrypted but the OS partition will be. The efi partition loads the drivers needed to decrypt the OS disk.

            First let me say I don’t know apple computers. But this system has been around for 5 years and it probably not running the latest OS. Have you ever been able to clone this type of computer before with FOG? My question is around is the problem computer specific, model specific or all apples are this way? I know other organizations clone apple computers with FOG, so what makes this computer that unique?

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              Sebastian Roth Moderator
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              @saftkartoffel While it’s ugly in terms of speed and image size you can use image type RAW to capture I am sure.

              I know this is not great but Apple is doing many things to prevent people from imaging their machines and there is not much we can do about it unless you are keen enough to dive into the code


              Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                saftkartoffel @Sebastian Roth
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                @Sebastian-Roth does raw capture supports multicasting?

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                  saftkartoffel @george1421
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                  @george1421 unfortunately the os is the newest update a 10.15.6 macOS Catalina, I am trying the raw capture at the moment as the number of macs i need to prepare is more than 50. So I think albeit slow if raw capture works it still worth it

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                    Sebastian Roth Moderator
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                    @saftkartoffel Yes sure you can multicast a raw image.

                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                      saftkartoffel @saftkartoffel
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                      @saftkartoffel update, so I ended up capture raw image of the macos but it stuck on 95% when deploying the image.

                      So on the deployed mac, I rebooted it and it doesn’t boot normally and stuck on an apple logo. But the boot option is working so i tried booting into a install Catalina usb and choose recover from backup. Luckily I had a local time machine backup on the captured mac. Did the latest local backup restoration for around 15 minutes-ish and it worked and booted beautifully on macOS Catalina 10.15.6

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                        Sebastian Roth Moderator
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                        @saftkartoffel When you say stuck, do you mean the byte/sector count in the blue partclone screen did not move any further? For how long did you wait? Did the speed figure go down to zero?

                        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                          saftkartoffel @Sebastian Roth
                          last edited by saftkartoffel

                          @Sebastian-Roth said in Clear block out of boundary:

                          @saftkartoffel When you say stuck, do you mean the byte/sector count in the blue partclone screen did not move any further? For how long did you wait? Did the speed figure go down to zero?

                          Left it overnight, in the morning the speed is getting lower if I remembered correctly but not to zero

                          What i meant stuck is the progress bar

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                            saftkartoffel
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                            @Sebastian-Roth said in Clear block out of boundary:

                            @saftkartoffel Yes sure you can multicast a raw image.

                            Well I got Fatal: error unknown request type :: Null

                            Got a quick fix? need to do the imaging asap

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                              Sebastian Roth Moderator
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                              @saftkartoffel As I see you are using the USB boot stuff. Not part of the official FOG code but I am sure we can help you! Please post the complete grub configuration you have in boot/grub/grub.cfg on your USB key.

                              Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                george1421 Moderator @saftkartoffel
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                                @saftkartoffel said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                Well I got Fatal: error unknown request type :: Null
                                Got a quick fix? need to do the imaging asap

                                This is one of the caveats of usb booting. You should reread the instructions for building the FOS Linux USB boot disk. It says that you MUST schedule the task first in the Web UI THEN select option 1 on the grub boot menu. If you don’t you will get the error about Unknown request type Null.

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                                  saftkartoffel @george1421
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                                  @george1421 said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                  @saftkartoffel said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                  Well I got Fatal: error unknown request type :: Null
                                  Got a quick fix? need to do the imaging asap

                                  This is one of the caveats of usb booting. You should reread the instructions for building the FOS Linux USB boot disk. It says that you MUST schedule the task first in the Web UI THEN select option 1 on the grub boot menu. If you don’t you will get the error about Unknown request type Null.

                                  Did exactly like that, the unicast works flawlessly but the multicast task doesn’t seems to be recognized bye the hosts

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                                    saftkartoffel @Sebastian Roth
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                                    @Sebastian-Roth said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                    @saftkartoffel As I see you are using the USB boot stuff. Not part of the official FOG code but I am sure we can help you! Please post the complete grub configuration you have in boot/grub/grub.cfg on your USB key.

                                    I only changed the myfogip

                                    
                                    set myfogip=10.35.148.134
                                    set myimage=/boot/bzImage
                                    set myinits=/boot/init.xz
                                    set myloglevel=4
                                    set timeout=-1
                                    insmod all_video
                                    
                                    menuentry "1. FOG Image Deploy/Capture" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux  $myimage loglevel=$myloglevel initrd=init.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=275000 keymap= web=$myfogip/fog/ boottype=usb consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4
                                     echo loading the virtual hard drive
                                     initrd $myinits
                                     echo booting kernel...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "2. Perform Full Host Registration and Inventory" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux  $myimage loglevel=$myloglevel initrd=init.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=275000 keymap= web=$myfogip/fog/ boottype=usb consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 mode=manreg
                                     echo loading the virtual hard drive
                                     initrd $myinits
                                     echo booting kernel...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "3. Quick Registration and Inventory" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux  $myimage loglevel=$myloglevel initrd=init.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=275000 keymap= web=$myfogip/fog/ boottype=usb consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 mode=autoreg
                                     echo loading the virtual hard drive
                                     initrd $myinits
                                     echo booting kernel...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "4. Client System Information (Compatibility)" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux  $myimage loglevel=$myloglevel initrd=init.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=275000 keymap= web=$myfogip/fog/ boottype=usb consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 mode=sysinfo
                                     echo loading the virtual hard drive
                                     initrd $myinits
                                     echo booting kernel...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "5. Run Memtest86+" {
                                     linux /boot/memdisk iso raw
                                     initrd /boot/memtest.bin
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "6. FOG Debug Kernel" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux  $myimage loglevel=7 init=/sbin/init root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=275000 keymap= boottype=usb consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 isdebug=yes
                                     echo loading the virtual hard drive
                                     initrd $myinits
                                     echo booting kernel...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "7. FOG iPXE Jumpstart BIOS" {
                                     echo loading the kernel
                                     linux16  /boot/ipxe.krn
                                     echo booting iPXE...
                                    }
                                    
                                    menuentry "8. FOG iPXE Jumpstart EFI" {
                                     echo chain loading the kernel
                                     insmod chain 
                                     chainloader /boot/ipxe.efi
                                     echo booting iPXE-efi...
                                    }
                                    
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                                    • george1421G
                                      george1421 Moderator @saftkartoffel
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                                      @saftkartoffel said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                      but the multicast task doesn’t seems to be recognized bye the hosts

                                      At the current time you can not use multicast with the USB boot environment. In theory it should be possible but we will need to get GRUB to prompt for the multicast task name. So “today” only unicast is supported when booting via usb.

                                      I do have to ask why are you booting via USB? Is PXE booting not supported by your hardware?

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                                        saftkartoffel @george1421
                                        last edited by saftkartoffel

                                        @george1421 said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                        @saftkartoffel said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                        but the multicast task doesn’t seems to be recognized bye the hosts

                                        At the current time you can not use multicast with the USB boot environment. In theory it should be possible but we will need to get GRUB to prompt for the multicast task name. So “today” only unicast is supported when booting via usb.

                                        I do have to ask why are you booting via USB? Is PXE booting not supported by your hardware?

                                        Unfortunately no, is there a way for imac to boot directly from network though? And more notes for further research. The unicast now does 100% on other identical machine as the golden master, the previous stuck percentage at partclone is done on an older machine but with the same size of hdd. And the final result is a hfs+ formated partitions. So I guess the raw capture doesn’t capture the image as APFS. luckily a time machine backup will fix the format back to apfs

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                                          Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                          last edited by Sebastian Roth

                                          @george1421 said in Clear block out of boundary:

                                          At the current time you can not use multicast with the USB boot environment


                                          I keep forgetting the drawbacks of the USB boot stuff. Now that the latest release is out I might have a bit more time to look into this and maybe make it work. Though this won’t be today.

                                          @saftkartoffel said:

                                          And the final result is a hfs+ formated partitions. So I guess the raw capture doesn’t capture the image as APFS. luckily a time machine backup will fix the format back to apfs.

                                          I can’t imagine RAW capture will convert a partition formated with APFS to HFS+ or anything like that unless APFS has parts of the filesystem stored in NVRAM - which would be really strange.

                                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                            george1421 Moderator @saftkartoffel
                                            last edited by george1421

                                            @saftkartoffel Are you willing to try something different to see if we can jump into iPXE via USB? If we can get the iPXE menu loaded then multicasting is an option.

                                            Follow these instructions. https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/6350/usb-boot-uefi-client-into-fog-menu-easy-way

                                            Understand this is an idea and have no understanding if it will work under mac hardware. But the idea is to load iPXE much like we load GRUB from the usb stick.

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