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    • AvaryanA
      Avaryan @Sebastian Roth
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      @Sebastian-Roth Still waiting on the device.

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        Sebastian Roth Moderator
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        @Avaryan @sarge_212 , @jhuesser, @Psycholiquid, @fry_p, @Scott-Adams, @xerxes2985, @dylan123, @ecicerkofski, @Arsenal101 Please guys, get your MS Surface devices out and help us find this issue!

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        • Scott AdamsS
          Scott Adams @Sebastian Roth
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          @Sebastian-Roth I am currently out of the office on vacation. When I get back, I will be more than happy to get one and start testing.

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          • fry_pF
            fry_p Moderator @Sebastian Roth
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            @Sebastian-Roth Sorry for the delay, I will hit this on Monday. We’ve been re-wiring Chromebook carts the past few weeks and I’ve been absent from FOG dealings and checking the forums. I will try to find a spare Pro 4 to fiddle with

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            • fry_pF
              fry_p Moderator @fry_p
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              @fry_p said in Microsoft Surface Pro 4:

              @Sebastian-Roth Sorry for the delay, I will hit this on Monday. We’ve been re-wiring Chromebook carts the past few weeks and I’ve been absent from FOG dealings and checking the forums. I will try to find a spare Pro 4 to fiddle with

              Hi there, I came back that Monday and had to give away my last Pro 4 to a user. So I guess I’m out for testing this, my apologies. We aren’t planning on purchasing any more in the near future as they are not durable enough for our “rough” users. Sorry everyone

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              • AvaryanA
                Avaryan
                last edited by Avaryan

                I’m still waiting for some. I heard they possibly might not arrive until September… which I really hope isn’t true.

                edit: Confirmed ETA. Sometime in mid August.

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                • fry_pF
                  fry_p Moderator @Avaryan
                  last edited by fry_p

                  @Sebastian-Roth I got my hands on a Pro 4 and tested all 76 of the .efi files you had up in drive. I made notes. Let me know if you need more info. It seems to have worked up until the 5/4/17 commit.

                  EDIT: They took my surface away for a user before I was able to test the svn folder on the Google Drive folder you shared @Sebastian-Roth 😞

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                    Sebastian Roth Moderator
                    last edited by Sebastian Roth

                    @fry_p Thanks heaps for testing the binaries so far! What does USB error mean? PXE boots fine or not?

                    From your tests it looks like the code change on EFI timer (git 757ab9) broke things. Is anyone else able to verify this (and test the SVN binaries too) before I get in contact with the iPXE devs? @Avaryan @Scott-Adams? You just need to test 04_ipxe.efi and 05_ipxe.efi! Plus testing the binaries in the svn subfolder would be highly appreciated as well. Find it all here.

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                    • AvaryanA
                      Avaryan
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                      I love how I started this topic and have made 0 contributions, lol.

                      Apparently the Surface 4 is in “high demand”; which is why it’s taking so long to come in. Eventually I’ll get my hands on one.

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                      • fry_pF
                        fry_p Moderator @Sebastian Roth
                        last edited by fry_p

                        @Sebastian-Roth I should have just put “OK” instead. With just the Surface Pro Ethernet adapter, I always get a USB error past the pxe boot, when it is preparing to image. I can use a powered USB hub to get it to work in those situations. You can change those to avoid confusion, but they pxe booted fine up until the commit you specified. If I can get my hands on another in the near future, I’ll get those svn versions as well.

                        @Avaryan , you can see that my Surfaces keep getting deployed to users before I can finish testing! They are certainly in high demand around where I work. You are right about that

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                        • AvaryanA
                          Avaryan
                          last edited by

                          Was informed that the Surface devices came in today. May have one next week.

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                            Sebastian Roth Moderator
                            last edited by Sebastian Roth

                            Right after verifying the tests on 04/05_ipxe (see below) you can also try the debug enabled iPXE binary (DEBUG=efi_timer) to see where it hangs/loops. Find 00_efi_timer_ipxe.efi in the same google drive folder as mentioned below.

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                            • AvaryanA
                              Avaryan
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                              Finally got a Surface Pro 4 to work with.

                              I’m not even sure where to start with this thing, lol. The USB NIC is from Dell.

                              I’ve disabled Secure Boot and Trusted Platform Module and left PXE Network as the only boot option. Doesn’t seem to do anything.

                              Where do I go from here?

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                              • fry_pF
                                fry_p Moderator @Avaryan
                                last edited by fry_p

                                @avaryan From what I understand, it will only pxe boot from a microsoft dongle.

                                From the Website
                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/ethernet-adapters-and-surface-device-deployment

                                “Third-party Ethernet adapters are also supported for network deployment, although they do not support PXE boot. To use a third-party Ethernet adapter, you must load the drivers into the deployment boot image and you must launch that boot image from a separate storage device, such as a USB stick”

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                                • AvaryanA
                                  Avaryan
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                                  Does FOG support UEFI?

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                                  • george1421G
                                    george1421 Moderator @Avaryan
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                                    @avaryan yes, fog supports uefi. You need to tell your dhcp server to send the name ipxe.efi to the target computer instead of undionly.kpxe.

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                                    • AvaryanA
                                      Avaryan @george1421
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                                      @george1421 Do you think this would enable FOG to work with the Surface? And through the 3rd party dongle?

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                                      • fry_pF
                                        fry_p Moderator @george1421
                                        last edited by fry_p

                                        @george1421 @Avaryan If I am not mistaken, you should try the ipxe7156.efi until we have this figured out right? Newer ones don’t work with the surface.

                                        EDIT: If you have a mixed environment, I’d recommend looking at this page UEFI and BIOS Co-Existence in FOG

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                                        • AvaryanA
                                          Avaryan @fry_p
                                          last edited by

                                          @fry_p Wouldn’t the 3rd party dongle still effect this?

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                                          • fry_pF
                                            fry_p Moderator @Avaryan
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                                            @avaryan I have never tried anything but the Microsoft Dongle. It may certainly be worth a try.

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