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    Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
    last edited by Joe Schmitt Jul 26, 2016, 9:12 AM Jul 26, 2016, 3:09 PM

    @Max-Kern that also indicates an incorrect service configuration. I’m not denying that it could be a coding issue, but your issue fits a service configuration issue in every regard. None of the service controller stall prevention code base is being initialized, none of the eager JIT compiler response time minimizers are running, the offloaded worker threads aren’t kicking in, and the IPC bus isn’t initializing. This all indicates that the service controller is misbehaving.

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      Max Kern @Joe Schmitt
      last edited by Max Kern Jul 26, 2016, 10:35 AM Jul 26, 2016, 4:35 PM

      @Joe-Schmitt with the delayed-auto option it works fine for the slow machiens, maybe there is a Problem with the configuration of the Service Controller (but why this is the only service and why on the other clients it work?). I think the Fog Services is start very early and waiting for dependence (i dont know which, so i cant say anything to it) maybe a network or somthing else, and at startup this dependence first must initialize befor it can go on, that would explain why this is working with delayed start of the service, because all dependence are loaded, this also will explain why it will start if the machine has loaded the gui and all other stuff.

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        RLane
        last edited by Jul 28, 2016, 4:56 PM

        Cross posting here:

        https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/8206/0-11-4-rc4-ad-question/

        Same issue I’m having. You marked it as solved, I’m assuming you just set the service to start as delayed prior to sysprepping and that solved it?

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          x23piracy @RLane
          last edited by x23piracy Jul 28, 2016, 11:13 AM Jul 28, 2016, 5:08 PM

          @RLane you should not use delayed-auto if so there is a race condition for breaking the image when deploying, for some machines you could have luck and for some maybe you will get an error.

          In short when using OEM you can’t use SetupComplete.cmd without calling it by unattend.xml section firstlogoncommands.
          If you are not using OEM you can use SetupComplete.cmd as normal but stay away from delayed auto.

          @Tom-Elliott @Joe-Schmitt Could someone add this information to the wiki?
          If OEM call setupcomplete.cmd via unattend.xml section firstlogoncommands
          if no OEM use Setupcomplete.cmd as normal

          Check here: https://forums.fogproject.org/post/74436

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            RLane @x23piracy
            last edited by Jul 28, 2016, 5:27 PM

            @x23piracy I’m not using OEM. I’m using a KMS key - Windows 10 x64 for Education. I had no issue with the same setupcomplete.cmd and unattend file with 0.11.2. After upgrading to the RC’s, it began to give me issues.

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              Max Kern @RLane
              last edited by Jul 28, 2016, 5:31 PM

              @RLane Hi,
              Yes this worked for me very well on about 60 machines.
              I put the delayed-auto into the SetupComplete an deactivate the Service like it says the wiki.

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                Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                last edited by Joe Schmitt Jul 28, 2016, 11:33 AM Jul 28, 2016, 5:33 PM

                I will look into this when I get a chance. Could you describe in detail the hardware that has this issue and the OS config (e.g. if its sysprep please provide the unattend and setup complete) also the exact OS info. I need to figure out how to replicate this on my vms.

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                  x23piracy @Max Kern
                  last edited by x23piracy Jul 28, 2016, 11:38 AM Jul 28, 2016, 5:37 PM

                  @Max-Kern said in Windows 10 Client 0.11.4 Windows Service:

                  @RLane Hi,
                  Yes this worked for me very well on about 60 machines.
                  I put the delayed-auto into the SetupComplete an deactivate the Service like it says the wiki.

                  Well but i like that it works with any machine i try from vm to high end workstation.
                  some days ago the wiki was itself talking about delayed auto but this has changed and that for a good reason.

                  Well if you only using one special type of hardware you sure could stay with delayed auto and your good to go.

                  Read this i think he knows what he’s talking about 😉 https://forums.fogproject.org/post/73883

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                    Max Kern @Joe Schmitt
                    last edited by Jul 28, 2016, 5:56 PM

                    @Joe-Schmitt I will do it tomorrow when im at work.

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                      Max Kern @Joe Schmitt
                      last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 8:11 AM

                      @Joe-Schmitt Hi,
                      In this Textfile you see the Hardware of two diffrent machines, the Bluechip with the SSD work with the auto and delayed auto option, the HP 6300 Pro Clients with the WD Hdd only working with the delayed-auto option.
                      0_1469777655120_Spec 112 113.rtf
                      Unattend:
                      0_1469777856949_unattend.xml

                      SetupComplete:
                      sc config FOGService start= delayed-auto
                      net start FOGService

                      Software:
                      Windows 10 education 64 bit
                      Office 2016 32 bit
                      AndroidStudio
                      Eclipse IDE
                      VLC
                      OpenOffice
                      Chrome
                      Firefox
                      All updates of Office and Windows are installed, also it is the current Version of the other Software.

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                        Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                        last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 11:03 AM

                        Can you update your setup complete to restart as described in the updated wiki article?

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                          RLane @Joe Schmitt
                          last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 1:40 PM

                          @Joe-Schmitt I did. I’ve tried with the reboot - didn’t work. I’ve tried with automatic-delay - didn’t work either.

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                            Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                            last edited by Joe Schmitt Jul 29, 2016, 8:00 AM Jul 29, 2016, 2:00 PM

                            @RLane are there any entries in fog.log?

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                              RLane @Joe Schmitt
                              last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 4:28 PM

                              @Joe-Schmitt There isn’t because the service is not starting until a manual reboot. In event viewer, it shows that the service failed to start after 3000 ms or something, failed twice like this.

                              Good news though… works well on an SSD. Any machine with a 7200 HDD, it doesn’t start the service in time. I haven’t had a computer fail yet with an SSD.

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                                Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                                last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 4:30 PM

                                Yes I understand, I need to see if any entries are being made in the fog.log on the failed start.

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                                  Wayne Workman @RLane
                                  last edited by Jul 29, 2016, 8:12 PM

                                  @RLane You can’t expect support for the new FOG Client without giving the senior developer of the new FOG Client a log, which he needs to give support.

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                                    Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                                    last edited by Aug 1, 2016, 10:31 PM

                                    The v0.11.5 release candidate should fix this issue. More testing needs to occur before I mark this as solved though.

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                                      Tom Elliott @Joe Schmitt
                                      last edited by Aug 8, 2016, 8:27 PM

                                      @Joe-Schmitt Do you think it’s safe to solve this thread?

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                                        Joe Schmitt Senior Developer
                                        last edited by Aug 8, 2016, 9:03 PM

                                        v0.11.5 of the client prevents premature startups of the service. You will still need to disable the client before syprepping and restart the computer when sysprep is complete though (as described in the updated FOG Client wiki article).

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