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    Joe Gill
    last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 2:57 PM

    The majority of our images in district are Windows 7 with MS Office 2016. I’m curious if their are any work arounds on Windows license activation after image. I do not use sysprep as I make an image per each iteration of hardware in our district.

    Currently, I allow FOG to register host on domain. Then I log in each machine and register each machine on the internet with MS. We have volume licensing.

    I mentioned setting up a license server to the senior admin in the district but he wasn’t too thrilled with the idea.

    Any suggestions would be helpful!

    I’m trying to shave every second off of this process as I can while still keeping it simple!

    Cheers,

    Joe Gill

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      Wayne Workman
      last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:27 PM

      FOG Trunk with the new fog client is able to activate windows. You can use groups to just assign the key to all hosts, and they will all activate. Yes, it’s that simple.

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        Quazz Moderator
        last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:30 PM

        If it’s a volume license, isn’t it possible to simply capture after activation? Or does Microsoft not like that?

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          Wayne Workman @Quazz
          last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:34 PM

          @Quazz In 8.1 and later, windows becomes un-activated when it detects it’s hardware UUID changed. MS Office is the same way now.

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            Joe Gill @Wayne Workman
            last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:43 PM

            @Wayne-Workman

            Awesome!! I like that!! That’s what I did with our AD and it worked perfectly! 🙂

            Thanks!!!

            Man, I’m going to owe all you guys/gals in the FOG project a beer!

            Cheers,

            Joe Gill

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              george1421 Moderator @Joe Gill
              last edited by george1421 Jun 23, 2016, 9:43 AM Jun 23, 2016, 3:43 PM

              @Joe-Gill Really You didn’t mention if you were using MAK or KMS keys. But most places will use a KMS key server since all of the licensing is done locally (without the client computers having direct access to the internet). The KMS server also allows you to revoke keys and upgrade/downgrade activation.

              But to answer your question you can create a setupcomplete.cmd and put the following lines in it.

              cscript “C:\Windows\System32\Slmgr.vbs” /ipk [Windows KMS Key if not already in your image]
              cscript “C:\Windows\System32\Slmgr.vbs” /ato

              That will activate the workstation after setup has complete and before the first logon happens.

              If you have a local KMS server insert the following command between the two above.
              cscript “C:\Windows\System32\Slmgr.vbs” /skms [IP_Address]
              cscript “C:\Windows\System32\Slmgr.vbs” /ato

              This code should be executed on the target computer not your reference image.

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                Wayne Workman
                last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:46 PM

                I should add that the fog client activates windows fine with MAC keys, as far as I know.

                KMS is a different animal, and I’ve not tested it what-so-ever with the new client. For KMS, I’d go George’s route.

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                  Joe Gill @george1421
                  last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:46 PM

                  @george1421

                  I’ll keep that in mind. I’m going to try the Trunk option that Wayne mentioned first.

                  No KMS here. I’m assuming it’s MAK. I’m the new guy still so I’m learning as I go.

                  Thanks!!

                  Cheers,

                  Joe Gill

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                    Joe Gill @Wayne Workman
                    last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:50 PM

                    @Wayne-Workman

                    Do the images need to be sysprepped in order to go the FOG client route?

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                      george1421 Moderator @Joe Gill
                      last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:51 PM

                      @Joe-Gill Understood.

                      Just realize that MAK keys are churn and burn (i.e. you only get one activation per MAK key and those key’s (license) can’t be reclaimed if you dispose of the hardware. They are a one time use key). With KMS keys when you dispose of a system the KMS key returns to the license pool.

                      No sysprep is not required for the FOG client.

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                        Wayne Workman @Joe Gill
                        last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:51 PM

                        @Joe-Gill said in Windows / Office Licencing:

                        @Wayne-Workman

                        Do the images need to be sysprepped in order to go the FOG client route?

                        Nah. You’re good to go.

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                          Joe Gill
                          last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:53 PM

                          We must use KMS. The keys we have we can re-use until the pool fills up. Then you have to release some. I’ll have to ask the other admin. Thanks!

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                            george1421 Moderator @Joe Gill
                            last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 3:57 PM

                            @Joe-Gill The actual keys used doesn’t matter for your task at hand. The systems activate the same way. The MAK vs KMS is part of your internal IT governance process (license management).

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                              Joe Gill @george1421
                              last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 6:53 PM

                              @george1421

                              Thanks for the explanation. I come more from a Unix / Linux background where licensing is simpler. 🙂 We use MAK for certain. We do not have KMS set up here.

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                                Joe Gill
                                last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 7:21 PM

                                How about MS Office activation? Is their anyway to automate that?

                                @Developers FYI The Trunk ver. of the client works like a charm for Windows Activation! Thanks!!! You guys rock!

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                                  Wayne Workman @Joe Gill
                                  last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 7:46 PM

                                  @Joe-Gill said in Windows / Office Licencing:

                                  How about MS Office activation? Is their anyway to automate that?

                                  Powershell snapin that runs activation for you. If you associate a snapin with a host, that snapin will run automatically after every imaging task on said computer.

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                                    george1421 Moderator @Joe Gill
                                    last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 8:00 PM

                                    @Joe-Gill This script will activate office 2010. You will need to adjust the path for office 2016 and for system arch (x64 or x86). You can just create the vbs script and deploy as a snapin or if you are creative you can package with the office 2016 snapin, or use the office setup took and just add the key into the setup configuration and let office do that.

                                    cscript “c:\program files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OfficeSoftwareProtectionPlatform” ospprearm.exe
                                    cscript “c:\program files\Microsoft Office\Office14\ospp.vbs” /inpkey:[Office KMS Key]
                                    cscript “c:\program files\Microsoft Office\Office14\ospp.vbs” /sethst:[IP Address]
                                    cscript “c:\program files\Microsoft Office\Office14\ospp.vbs” /act

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                                      Joe Gill @george1421
                                      last edited by Jun 23, 2016, 8:42 PM

                                      @george1421

                                      Thanks!! You have been very helpful!

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                                        gnoetzel
                                        last edited by Sep 1, 2016, 2:07 PM

                                        I have 8 computers that have ‘pre-install’ MS Office 2016. I have separate keys for each machine. However, I used FOG to image 1 computer that was already activated.
                                        When I re-image another computer - I was not able to use Office since the Key already used and could not be activated.
                                        I tried Repair Office - and it was cumbersome and I don’ think doing the repair would work on the 3rd computer.
                                        Does the CSCRIP if put into FOG Snapin - work during the imaging?
                                        MS Office 2016 requires activation via internet with a user name/password.

                                        I appreciate everyone suggestions or recommendations.

                                        thanks

                                        Gilbert Noetzel
                                        Information Technology Support Specialist (ITSS)
                                        City of Reidsville
                                        230 West Morehead Street
                                        Reidsville, NC 27320
                                        Phone: 336-347-2339
                                        Email: gnoetzel@ci.reidsville.nc.us

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                                          Wayne Workman @gnoetzel
                                          last edited by Wayne Workman Sep 1, 2016, 8:11 AM Sep 1, 2016, 2:11 PM

                                          @gnoetzel Make a new image with MS Office unactivated, and use that. Others may have better advice, so stay tuned.

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