Some questions

[plegrand]

Hello
i’ve got some questions:

1. I havent dns on my network then is there a way to see if hosts are down or up by ip adress or netbios name ?

2. Is there a way to know what is the correspondence between version in the cloud and svn version ?

I saw on the wiki that there is 4 images types :

Single Partition
Multiple Partition - Single Disk
Multiple Partition - All Disks
Raw Image

On the web frontend
Single Disk - Resizable - (1)
Multiple Partition Image - Single Disk (Not Resizable) - (2)
Multiple Partition Image - All Disks (Not Resizable) - (3)
Raw Image (Sector By Sector, DD, Slow) - (4)

As you can see the first option is different.
What is the good one
Is it single disk or single partition ?

Thanks for anwser

[Wayne Workman]

Single Disk - Resizable should always be your first choice for computers with just one disk.

for 2 or more disks, you should use multiple partition image - all disks.

The other two options are generally for when Single Disk - Resizable doesn’t work. The next step when Single - Resizable doesn’t work is to do multiple partition image - not resizable. When that fails, there’s RAW.

RAW takes an absolute exact copy of the entire drive. If you have a 1TB drive, you get a image that is 1TB in size… yeah… You should avoid RAW, but it’s there as an option for you.

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
Then is it an error on the wiki when it says Single Partition ?
and about my 2 others questions ?

thanks again

[Wayne Workman]

The difference between the cloud number and the svn number happened because sourceforge went down for a good amount of time.

The developers did not stop developing during this time, they kept pushing revisions to github. So the revision number continued to climb. When sourceforge finally came online, all the updates it had been missing all got rolled up into one giant commit. Both sourceforge and github are equally valid sources to get revision updates from.

I include svn numbers and cloud numbers because it might help the developers sometimes more quickly locate an issue. SVN numbers would also be important if you wanted to install a specific revision. So beyond bug reporting/troubleshooting and installing a specific revision, the svn numbers aren’t really important.

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand said:

Then is it an error on the wiki when it says Single Partition ?

Yes and no. You’re using fog trunk. That particular Wiki page you’re looking at was written for 1.2.0.

Link it here and I’ll update it.

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
This page :
https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Managing_FOG#Images

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman said:

SVN numbers would also be important if you wanted to install a specific revision.

It’s for this reason i would like to know what is the svn version for a “cloud version”

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
And for the first question ?
My problem is on the Hosts management page
all my host have a red circle with exclamation point and this error message :
“no such device or address”. What does that mean ?
I think it’s because fog cant ping my hosts because there is no dns on my network. Is there an other way to make it works?
I made some tests with wins (samba, winbind…) without success

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand said:

@Wayne-Workman said:

SVN numbers would also be important if you wanted to install a specific revision.

It’s for this reason i would like to know what is the svn version for a “cloud version”

Go to the trunk directory where you sync’d from svn in and just run svn info and it will tell you what svn revision it is.

for example on my server:

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
But if i want to come back to an older version and i only know the “cloud version” ?

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand said:

@Wayne-Workman
And for the first question ?
My problem is on the Hosts management page
all my host have a red circle with exclamation point and this error message :
“no such device or address”. What does that mean ?
I think it’s because fog cant ping my hosts because there is no dns on my network. Is there an other way to make it works?
I made some tests with wins (samba, winbind…) without success

If you had no dns service on your network, you’d probably have a really difficult time using the internet.

On a windows machine you can run from command prompt nslookup and it’ll tell you your default dns server right away.

And if you really don’t have a real DNS server on your network, I’d probably suggest making one.

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
Hmm sorry , we’ve got a dns to use internet, but all the station are not into this dns then i imagine that fog cant ping those stations

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand Do you use static addressing?

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman
no we use our own dhcp server (dynamic)

But i saw on the net it was possible to use netbios name with wins for fog ping. But i cant make it works

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand You can configure DHCP to update DNS as it gives out leases.

And if you saw fog stuff elsewhere - I can’t vouch for those other sources, they might be legit, might not be. They are highly likely to have been written for 1.2.0 or even earlier. The code base has gone through dramatic changes (for the better). Any instructions you find elsewhere might not even directly apply anymore. I’d recommend asking the @Developers for suggestions on how to do it.

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman said:

@plegrand You can configure DHCP to update DNS as it gives out leases.

It’s not our dns servers

And if you saw fog stuff elsewhere - I can’t vouch for those other sources, they might be legit, might not be. They are highly likely to have been written for 1.2.0 or even earlier. The code base has gone through dramatic changes (for the better). Any instructions you find elsewhere might not even directly apply anymore. I’d recommend asking the @Developers for suggestions on how to do it.

OK
you mean if i add on this thread “@Developers”, they will see my post and may be answer ?
Anyway thanks a lot for your help and the time spended.
Fog is a very great application (not like my english !!)
As you can see it’s not very important question
Thanks again
I’ll make some tests for multicast (other thread), it’s more important for me

[Wayne Workman]

@plegrand said:

It’s not our dns servers

You don’t have to use them. You can make your own and direct all hosts to use yours.

[Wayne Workman]

This has been updated: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Managing_FOG#Images

[plegrand]

@Wayne-Workman said:

@plegrand said:

It’s not our dns servers

You don’t have to use them. You can make your own and direct all hosts to use yours.

I install dynamique DNS with bind and it works fine. Thanks again