Can't have partition outside the disk
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[quote=“rixter, post: 366, member: 168”]My win7 images are setup for ‘Single Partiton (NTFS Only, Resizable)’ and seem to work fine (I think fog expects the extra 100mb hidden partition when you tell the image its windows 7). On your XP machine if you still have the original setup, do a defrag, then chkdsk /f, and reboot and let it scan, then reboot at least 2 more times (something I read about a few months ago) and it might fix your issue. You should always chkdsk /f before uploading a windows image.[/quote]
I know it runs a chkdsk after the image is deployed and i havent anyone metion doing it before you upload the image. But i images are sysprepped before they are uploaded so i dont think a chkdsk matters in that scenario…but as far as the windows xp image goes i have no problem deploying it to other computers it’s just every once in a while i run to it. Right now i have a desktop setting next to that i get that error on no matter what i do though
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Of course it matters, the reason to run chkdsk is to fix hard drive issue (file index’s, truncated files, etc.) so running it before you upload is very important, as you don’t want corrupted data to be uploaded. ntfsresize is a tool that runs within the fog environment, and if you have disk issues it will normally let you know, but not always. Sysprep only prepares the files and registry for an image creation, it doesn’t touch the disk structure. As a matter of fact, I rarely use sysprep on xp anymore, with windows 7 though its important. Defragging before you image can reduce your image size drastically as well, when you have ‘unorganized’ data spanning across 10 gigs, but only are using 4 gigs of space, it picks the last place on the disk there is data and creates the image based on that. I have solved SEVERAL ghosting issues by using those 2 tools before I upload the image. Even issues that crop up after the deployment can be fixed by that.
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[quote=“rixter, post: 371, member: 168”]Of course it matters, the reason to run chkdsk is to fix hard drive issue (file index’s, truncated files, etc.) so running it before you upload is very important, as you don’t want corrupted data to be uploaded. ntfsresize is a tool that runs within the fog environment, and if you have disk issues it will normally let you know, but not always. Sysprep only prepares the files and registry for an image creation, it doesn’t touch the disk structure. As a matter of fact, I rarely use sysprep on xp anymore, with windows 7 though its important. Defragging before you image can reduce your image size drastically as well, when you have ‘unorganized’ data spanning across 10 gigs, but only are using 4 gigs of space, it picks the last place on the disk there is data and creates the image based on that. I have solved SEVERAL ghosting issues by using those 2 tools before I upload the image. Even issues that crop up after the deployment can be fixed by that.[/quote]
i’ll keep that in mind but the image i’m trying to deploy right now is the windows 7 image, the windows xp works on this one
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If you can, deploy that windows 7 image on another machine, create a new image, this time make it resizable, run chkdsk /f, push it back to the server under the new image, then try it again on the machine that is having problems.
If you can’t do this, I am not sure of any other options you have. (possibly creating a partition the exact size of the one from the machine it was pulled from?)
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[quote=“rixter, post: 376, member: 168”]If you can, deploy that windows 7 image on another machine, create a new image, this time make it resizable, run chkdsk /f, push it back to the server under the new image, then try it again on the machine that is having problems.
If you can’t do this, I am not sure of any other options you have. (possibly creating a partition the exact size of the one from the machine it was pulled from?)[/quote]
I have my windows 7 image that is not resizable because it has 2 partitions that it created when i installed windows 7 from scratch.
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[quote=“The Dealman, post: 370, member: 53”]But i images are sysprepped before they are uploaded so i dont think a chkdsk matters in that scenario…[/quote]
You should be chkdsk’ing before syspreping. Sysprep does not fix filesystem issues, which can cause images to fail.
This is espically true for resizable images.[quote=“rixter, post: 371, member: 168”]Defragging before you image can reduce your image size drastically as well, when you have ‘unorganized’ data spanning across 10 gigs, but only are using 4 gigs of space, it picks the last place on the disk there is data and creates the image based on that.[/quote]
This is true.You should be chkdsk’ing and defragging before taking up any image, [B]even if you arent using FOG[/B].
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[quote=“Blackout, post: 392, member: 1”]You should be chkdsk’ing before syspreping. Sysprep does not fix filesystem issues, which can cause images to fail.
This is espically true for resizable images.This is true.
You should be chkdsk’ing and defragging before taking up any image, [B]even if you arent using FOG[/B].[/quote]
ill keep that in mind but my windows 7 image was fresh when i took it and windows xp image i dont really keep up anymore since we are deploying windows 7. The issue now is with this [SIZE=3]“can’t have partition outside the disk” error [/SIZE]
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Which sounds like the image is too big for the disk, or there is something wrong with the image.
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If it is the 2 default partitions for windows 7 (one is very small ~100 mb and the other is the rest of the disk) you can still use the NTFS Resizable option on it (fog takes into account that it is for windows 7 and allows this). Again IF you can ghost this back to the original machine and pull it again with the resizable option, I’m betting it will fix your issue.
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after doing some more research my windows 7 images is Multiple Partition - Single Disk non resizable. I created the image from a pc that had a drive size of 232.88 gig and i was trying to deploy to a pc that had a drive size of 232.82, since it’s not resizable the target drive needs to be the same or larger capacity. What i should have did was build the windows 7 image on the smallest drive i have…
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[quote=“rixter, post: 415, member: 168”]If it is the 2 default partitions for windows 7 (one is very small ~100 mb and the other is the rest of the disk) you can still use the NTFS Resizable option on it (fog takes into account that it is for windows 7 and allows this). Again IF you can ghost this back to the original machine and pull it again with the resizable option, I’m betting it will fix your issue.[/quote]
The only option that is resizable is the Single Partition option which doesnt work because there are 2 partitions, i tried that before and it blue screened on me
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If it is the 2 partitions from Windows 7 (boot and C), it will still resize - its only when it gets beyond the base partitioning scheme of Win 7 (you used 3 partitions?) that resize will fail.
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[quote=“totalimpact, post: 536, member: 217”]If it is the 2 partitions from Windows 7 (boot and C), it will still resize - its only when it gets beyond the base partitioning scheme of Win 7 (you used 3 partitions?) that resize will fail.[/quote]
It is those 2 default partitions but In the instructions i read it was suggested to use “Multiple Partition Image - Single Disk” for the image type when creating windows 7 images which doesn’t resize. Are you saying that it will ?
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Yes - it will, not sure what instructions show that, but its mentioned all over the forum - use Single Disk/Single Partition for best performance - even on Win 7.
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I am having a similiar issue with an XP multi-partition. The image was taken from a 160GB HDD, and I am getting the error trying to image to a 1TB HDD. Do I need to put a partition table on the drive first? It is a blank new drive with nothing on it.
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Have you tried imaging the source drive as Single Drive / Single Partition?
FOG will create or delete partitions as it sees fit, you should not need to do any partitioning - but in multi partition scenarios, it will not resize the partitions on your new drive, only in single partition mode can it resize.
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It is a multi partition drive that i am imaging from. I am not concerned with resizing it. We just had 1TB drives on the shelves. One of our computer labs, a drive died, so I was replacing it and using an image taken from another machine. I just cannot figure out who it says it is outside the disk when this drive is 7 times the size of the original host image drive.
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I havent tried the scenario yet - but I know multi-partition to the same drive size works fine - hopefully development can chime in.
If its just a single failed system, Clonezilla would definitely work. In the future you might try changing your platform to single partition - it has saved me a ton of time and space.
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[quote=“totalimpact, post: 539, member: 217”]Yes - it will, not sure what instructions show that, but its mentioned all over the forum - use Single Disk/Single Partition for best performance - even on Win 7.[/quote]
Fog says that in the image types in the description and that’s why i used it.
[B]Multiple Partition - Single Disk[/B]Multiple Partition - Single Disk will back up all the supported partitions on the first disk drive detected by FOG, but the partitions are [B]NOT[/B] resizable by FOG. This means that the image must be restored to a disk of the same or larger capacity.
[B]Overview[/B][LIST]
[]Single Disk Drive
[]Not Resizable
[]Supports: [B]NTFS, XFS. JFS, HPFS, FAT16, FAT32, Reiser3, EXT2, EXT3[/B]
[]Linux Support!
[/LIST]I don’t see how you can use Single Disk/Single Partition when there are 2 partitions?
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The single disk/single partition does work for windows 7 as long as you don’t have a recovery partition in the mix also. I just uploaded a Win7 image this morning with the 100mb partition and the regular partition and have been deploying the image successfully.
I agree, it does seem logical to pick the Multiple Part/Single disk, but Single/Single accounts for the 100mb partition and has worked for me.
Try uploading it, worst case is that it won’t upload, but barring some other problem, it should.
