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    • Tom ElliottT
      Tom Elliott
      last edited by

      Kernels are updated. Just rerun your installer if you’re on development and you should have kernels with mmc support baked in. The config files are already updated for this.

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        Sebastian Roth Moderator
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        We probably need to tune scripts as well to make devicenames like /dev/mmcblkX work but lets see if the new kernel is bringing up those first. 🙂

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        • Tom ElliottT
          Tom Elliott
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          You’re probably correct, though We have made great strides to make the “block” device as generic as possible. If they’re running on Trunk/Dev, things should be okay.

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            AsGF2MX @Tom Elliott
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            @Tom-Elliott Are you meaning to say that I should do a git pull first to get the new kernels? If so, I do have a test FOG environment and will do so on that. Just in case I need to break something :).

            Please advise.

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            • JunkhackerJ
              Junkhacker Developer
              last edited by

              since you’re running a relatively recent version of trunk, running the installer you already have should automatically download the latest kernel as it runs

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                AsGF2MX
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                I just updated the kernel in place and it seems that just like 4.1.6 kernel that the fdisk -l produces 15 devices named /dev/ram0 to dev/ram15 at 124MiB each.

                I am going to run the install script just in case there are some other changes involved.

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                • Tom ElliottT
                  Tom Elliott
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, I did not update 4.1.6. I Updated 4.2.0. This will not work on kernel 4.1.6.

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                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                    Wayne Workman
                    last edited by

                    Well this thread made a whole lot of progress in a short period of time… Job well done. I’m leaving it to you guys to figure out the rest lol.

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                      AsGF2MX @Tom Elliott
                      last edited by AsGF2MX

                      @Tom-Elliott I am on the latest git and Kernel 4.2.0 right now and it’s still showing the odd /dev/ram0-15. I ran through dmesg and I see the following points of interest:

                      multiple occureneces of Not using MMCONFIG

                      Then:

                      ACPI PNP0A08:00: _OSC: OSC failed (AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM
                      ACPI PNP0A08:00 fail to add MMCONFIG information, can’t access extended PCI configuration space under this bridge.

                      There is a Winbond W83L51xD SD/MMC card interface driver showing a bit further down but that looks like the MicroSD card on the side.

                      Sidebar - if I want to boot an ISO via iPXE, how would I do so? I’m currently at home and I just realized I haven’t got a single USB drive on me. I do however have ISOs on my ESXi box and also I got FOG. Not trying to go off topic but trying to see if Ubuntu iso or even clonezilla will identify the storage device.

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                        Sebastian Roth Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @AsGF2MX said:

                        fail to add MMCONFIG information

                        MMCONFIG is not MMC! AFAIK this error is unrelated. See here: http://lwn.net/Articles/263288/

                        Don’t you see anything about mmcblk in dmesg? Like here: https://gist.github.com/thomasdziedzic/01482f33aba5971845b3

                        Booting ISO from iPXE is possible. Search the forums for “ISO” and you should find a lot of information about it.

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                          AsGF2MX @Sebastian Roth
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                          @Uncle-Frank Did not spot the missing C - I thought it was MMC CONFIG. I was searching for mmc in dmesg and that’s all it showed. Searched for blk as well and got nothing. Do you know what kernel generated that particular output? I don’t have any custom settings in my FOG setup except that I am forcing the boot of the 32-bit kernel and not the 64-bit one via the UI so I have to ask if any specific switches or anything is needed anywhere? As usual, I have secure boot disabled as well.

                          On the ISOs, I did find the some info but I couldn’t make sense of where to put those lines in within the UI. On the other hand I did grab an SD card reader and I have a clean SD card so I will try to make a bootable drive or two in a few hours and hopefully get something back.

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                          • Wayne WorkmanW
                            Wayne Workman @AsGF2MX
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                            @AsGF2MX http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/

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                              AsGF2MX @Wayne Workman
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                              @Wayne-Workman

                              That did help me to get an active partition but it seems Ubuntu is a non-starter as I couldn’t even boot it. I was then able to just unzip the ISO contents of Clonezilla alternate stable (current off site) and boot.

                              It is on kernel 3.16.0-4-amd64 and there is an MMC block device shown.
                              IMG_0496.JPG IMG_0495.JPG IMG_0494.JPG IMG_0493.JPG

                              There is indeed and mmcblk0 being shown in clonezilla but I can’t get the 4.2 kernels from yesterday to do the same. I tried to find the header file for the kernel build options but I couldn’t find it from the sourceforge portal.

                              How can I help troubleshoot this further?

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                              • Wayne WorkmanW
                                Wayne Workman @AsGF2MX
                                last edited by Wayne Workman

                                @AsGF2MX

                                @Tom-Elliott might have updated the kernel - but sometimes changes need made in the inits too, wonder if he did that?

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                                  AsGF2MX @Wayne Workman
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                                  @Wayne-Workman

                                  Are you referring to init scripts within the initrd or something else? Since there are no modules here I am not sure how to even get the mmc recognized in dmesg.

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                                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                                    Wayne Workman
                                    last edited by

                                    Please post all of the output of this, so we can clearly see it (proper camera positioning and focus).

                                    fdisk -l | more
                                    

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                                      AsGF2MX @Wayne Workman
                                      last edited by AsGF2MX

                                      @Wayne-Workman

                                      Hopefully this one cuts it. First up, clonezilla:
                                      Clonezilla.jpg

                                      FOG:
                                      IMG_0499.JPG
                                      IMG_0503.JPG

                                      The 8GB device is the SD card I’m using to boot clonezilla.

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                                        Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Others seam to have issues with Samsung eMMC disks as well. See here:
                                        https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1422338
                                        https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1471989

                                        But notice the different models, MDGAGC in the first and MCGAFB in the second bug report. Not sure if those were ever solved.

                                        From what I can see in the first screenshots your model is a MBG4GC which I sadly cannot find much about when searching for those error messages. Not sure if this is related: https://dev-nell.com/rpmb-emmc-errors-under-linux.html

                                        I am sorry but I guess this won’t be an easy catch. You/we might need to get in contact with kernel developers. Not 100% sure yet.

                                        Could you please try other live linux systems to see if one of them goes without the errors?

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                                          AsGF2MX @Sebastian Roth
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                                          @Uncle-Frank Perhaps it’s not such a big issue after all:

                                          • My understanding is the RPMB partition is effectively doing what regular desktops do with EEPROM chips - store OEM license keys
                                          • AFAIK Windows does not treat this partition as mountable - it doesn’t show in disk manager (the tablet is out of battery at the moment - will post a pic in a bit)
                                          • Theoretically if I could clone p1-p5 as listed above then I should be all set
                                          • The license or OEM data in the rpmb can remain as is across each unit

                                          So in theory, if we apply Nell’s patch to ignore the rpmb area, we should be able to make this work.

                                          The question is what needs to be done to the initd to get it to work?

                                          @Tom-Elliott

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                                          • Wayne WorkmanW
                                            Wayne Workman @AsGF2MX
                                            last edited by

                                            @AsGF2MX Would it be acceptable for FOG to provide a Windows PE environment via PXE Boot with an installation script for Windows 8.1 for this device to make it automated?

                                            It’s not traditional I know… but what are you going to do? Go pay for a product when FOG can still help you?

                                            I mean… If we created a PXE Option that booted windows PE and just went through a Windows Recovery process, would that be acceptable? It would apply applications and restore settings. I suppose with the FOG Client installed on this device, it’d rename it and join it to the domain later too.

                                            Is this viable - at-least until we can get better support for your device?

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