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    Wayne Workman @szecca1
    last edited by Wayne Workman Jun 17, 2015, 9:06 AM Jun 17, 2015, 3:00 PM

    @szecca1 It’s a random (but valid) IP for my network.

    Also, don’t think of it as a V-LAN… that’s not correct. Think of a “network” as a broadcast domain, or a subnet.

    V-LANs came along WAY after the specs for TCP/IP and routing were developed. V-LANS are just a way to logically separate traffic within the same device.

    V-Lans have just numbers assigned… I.E. 5, 6, 7, 8, 55, 56, and so on.

    Networks have a network address, and a broadcast address and a valid range (hence ‘broadcast domain’). If you have subnetted networks, then I SUPPOSE its ok to call them subnets… but I won’t call them that lol.

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      szecca1 @Wayne Workman
      last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 3:56 PM

      @Wayne-Workman Ok I am stuck using your example so I pulled a random IP from my high school.
      Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
      IP: 10.2.1.64

      Binary IP Subnet:

      00001010.00000010.00000001.01000000
      11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000

      (Client IP network portion: 00001010.00000010.0000 Client portion: 0001.01000000)

      Which the fall through for the network address if I am correct would be:
      00001010.00000010.00000000.00000000
      which give a network address of 10.2.0.0

      After that I am not sure where to go as I get confused by what you did.

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        Wayne Workman @szecca1
        last edited by Wayne Workman Jun 17, 2015, 11:02 AM Jun 17, 2015, 5:01 PM

        @szecca1 said:

        @Wayne-Workman Ok I am stuck using your example so I pulled a random IP from my high school.
        Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
        IP: 10.2.1.64

        Binary IP Subnet:

        00001010.00000010.00000001.01000000
        11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000

        (Client IP network portion: 00001010.00000010.0000 Client portion: 0001.01000000)

        Which the fall through for the network address if I am correct would be:
        00001010.00000010.00000000.00000000
        which give a network address of 10.2.0.0

        After that I am not sure where to go as I get confused by what you did.

        IP: 00001010.00000010.00000001.01000000
        Subnet: 11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000
        (only where there is a 1 for subnet, the IP address portion falls through)
        Fall through: 00001010.00000010.00000000.00000000 <-- your network address

        To get the broadcast, turn on all the client portion ‘bits’ where the subnet mask is 0.

        00001010.00000010.11111111.11111111 <-- your broadcast address 10.2.255.255

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          szecca1 @Wayne Workman
          last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 5:59 PM

          @Wayne-Workman And that broadcast address should allow me to run the wake on lan to the high school which is where that IP came from?

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            Wayne Workman @szecca1
            last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:04 PM

            @szecca1 said:

            @Wayne-Workman And that broadcast address should allow me to run the wake on lan to the high school which is where that IP came from?

            It should. Test it and report back? I am not using the plugin yet so I don’t know, but if Tom says that’s how it is, then 99.9% of the time, that’s how it is.

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              szecca1 @Wayne Workman
              last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:12 PM

              @Wayne-Workman Capture.PNG

              This is what I entered into that plugin creating it for my high school and just tested it and didnt work.

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                Tom Elliott
                last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:25 PM

                You likely need to allow udp-broadcast-forwarding on your switches. At the very least, it needs to be enabled for the routing switch. The way to do this varies depending on the switch. HP Procurve allows for udp-broadcast-forwarding on (I think)

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                  szecca1 @Tom Elliott
                  last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:34 PM

                  @Tom-Elliott We already did that thinking it was a switch problem before doing this plug in

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                    Tom Elliott @szecca1
                    last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:34 PM

                    @szecca1 are you 100% sure that 10.2.255.255 is that networks broadcast address?

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                      szecca1 @Tom Elliott
                      last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:38 PM

                      @Tom-Elliott I worked with @Wayne-Workman and he helped me figure that out by converting an IP address into that. Previous posts go through it and thats what we came to the conclusion it is.

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                        Tom Elliott
                        last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:45 PM

                        What is the subnet mask of your network? Class A, B, C?

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                          szecca1 @Tom Elliott
                          last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:46 PM

                          @Tom-Elliott Subnet mask is 255.255.0.0, class B

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                            Wayne Workman @Tom Elliott
                            last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 6:54 PM

                            @Tom-Elliott said:

                            @szecca1 are you 100% sure that 10.2.255.255 is that networks broadcast address?

                            If the info he gave me is correct, I can assure that what we came up with is correct, but feel free to doublecheck my work using third party tools: http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ip-subnet-calculator.php

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                              szecca1 @Wayne Workman
                              last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 7:36 PM

                              @Wayne-Workman As long as all you needed was a random IP address and the subnet that info is correct. The only thing weird is the website you sent is saying we are a class A even though we are a class B.

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                                Tom Elliott
                                last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 7:41 PM

                                That’s often the case class a class B classy are usually directed by the first octet one through 126.whatever is considered class a, 128.whatever through 191.whatever is considered class b,192 up is class c

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                                  szecca1 @Tom Elliott
                                  last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 7:48 PM

                                  @Tom-Elliott ok that makes sense, and I ran another test and still wake on lan is not working. At this point I am not sure what to do. The imaging works perfectly but the clients have to be on in order for the imaging to go through, obviously.

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                                    Wayne Workman
                                    last edited by Wayne Workman Jun 17, 2015, 1:49 PM Jun 17, 2015, 7:49 PM

                                    Your public IP might be a Class B address…

                                    But internally, you have Class A addressing via NAT.

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                                      szecca1 @Wayne Workman
                                      last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 7:52 PM

                                      @Wayne-Workman “The three default subnet masks are 255.0.0.0 for Class A, 255.255.0.0 for class B, and 255.255.255.0 for Class C.”

                                      From this my impression is we have a class B subnet mask but I could be wrong, but I dont think this matters as whichever class it is, wake on lan isnt working lol

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                                        Wayne Workman @szecca1
                                        last edited by Jun 17, 2015, 7:57 PM

                                        @szecca1

                                        OK… troubleshooting time I suppose.

                                        You need to find a utility that will send a wake-on-lan packet to your desired IP address… (the broadcast address).

                                        Then,
                                        Go on site and see if you can broadcast a WOL packet and see if computers start up. If it works, then your switches / router configurations are to blame.

                                        If it doesn’t work… maybe make sure WOL is enabled on those computers… maybe try to WOL an individual client and see if that works.

                                        Report back and we will go from there.

                                        I’d recommend trying this one:
                                        http://sourceforge.net/projects/aquilawol/

                                        properties2.png

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                                          szecca1 @Wayne Workman
                                          last edited by Jun 18, 2015, 1:26 PM

                                          @Wayne-Workman I just downloaded this program and tested it exactly how you had asked and the computer wakes up perfectly fine. I then turned it off and attempted to wake on lan again from FOG and again to no avail. So you’re saying it’s a switch/router config thats to blame but I am not sure where that could be.

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