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FOG BIOS And EFI Coexistence

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    d4rk3
    last edited by May 8, 2015, 3:06 PM

    [quote=“Jeroen Brussich, post: 47057, member: 23215”]I did configure both bootfiles on the same tftpserver.
    Maybe that’s what I did wrong?

    This is what i see on my boot screen:
    [CODE]tftp://MY.IP/default.ipxe… ok
    http://MY.IP/fog/service/ipxe/boot.php… ok
    http://MY.IP/fog/service/ipxe/bg.png… ok

    Could not use picture: Exec format error (htt://ipxe.org/2e008081)
    Could not boot: Exec format error (htt://ipxe.org/2e008081)
    Could not boot: Exec format error (htt://ipxe.org/2e008081)

    Failed to get IP, Booting back to bios
    [/CODE]

    I downloaded ipxe.efi from [url]https://svn.code.sf.net/p/freeghost/code/trunk/packages/tftp/[/url]

    [B]edit:[/B] even if I don’t use the policy and make ipxe.efi the default BootFile Name of that scope, I get the same error. Maybe my ipxe.efi file is corrupt?[/quote]

    It’s definitely working because the bootfile instructed your client to download default.ipxe and so on.

    That being said, the problem now is with the bg.png picture. Maybe Tom will chime in with a fix for the bg.png…

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      Wayne Workman
      last edited by May 8, 2015, 3:28 PM

      There’s another guy that had this issue… he said he just commented out the code for the picture…

      But then he ran into a ton of other issues too. He had built his own ROM for his NIC.

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        Jeroen Brussich
        last edited by May 8, 2015, 5:20 PM

        I can comment out the picturecode allright (if I would know in what file to comment 🙂 )

        But I don’t think I’m smart enough to build my own ROM for that NIC.
        Especially since I have at least 5 different computertypes in my network and I would have to build one ROM to rule them all…

        That being said, do we really need uefi (now)?
        I can install 8.1 with legacy boot enabled, right?

        Or am I missing the big picture again? 🙂

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          Wayne Workman
          last edited by May 8, 2015, 5:21 PM

          Newer computers are slowly ceasing even supporting BIOS.

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            need2 Moderator
            last edited by May 8, 2015, 5:26 PM

            Also UEFI can boot much faster, and has smarter support of the firmware interface.

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              Jeroen Brussich
              last edited by May 8, 2015, 5:27 PM

              Is there a way to find out what NIC’s are supported by ipxe.efi?
              Or a manual to build my own ROM for the NIC?

              What’s the difference between:
              [LIST]
              []intel.efi
              [
              ]intel.[B]kk[/B]pxe
              []intel.[B]k[/B]pxe
              [
              ]intel.pxe
              [/LIST]
              Can I failover between computers?
              First try ipxe.efi
              Then try intel.efi
              Then try undionly.kpxe
              …
              I can test the hell out of FOG if you want me to 😉

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                Wayne Workman
                last edited by May 8, 2015, 5:33 PM

                [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Filename_Information[/url]

                .efi files are for UEFI, everything else is for BIOS.

                There are ipxe.efi, snp.efi, and snponly.efi that you can try.

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                  need2 Moderator
                  last edited by May 8, 2015, 7:19 PM

                  There’s also 32bit efi files in the i386-efi folder.

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                    Jeroen Brussich
                    last edited by May 8, 2015, 7:55 PM

                    I am at home now and can only resume testing in 3 days.

                    I downloaded ipxe.efi twice and calculated the checksum for both files.
                    I compared the md5-hash with the file on in my tftpfolder and it was trice the same…
                    No errors there…

                    I tested the ipxe.efi ROM on 2 different machines (intel NUC DC3217IYE and a Lenovo [SIZE=13px][FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#555555]ThinkPad Edge E540).[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]Both time, the boot was interrupted as described above.

                    I will test snp.efi and snponly.efi in 3 days but I still got the feeling I’m doing something wrong.
                    Or is it a coincidence both machines refused to boot from the ipxe?

                    Would it help to try a legacy boot from ipxe.kpxe to test the ROM in non-uefi mode?

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                      need2 Moderator
                      last edited by May 8, 2015, 8:04 PM

                      Yeah, that could rule out other issues.

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                        Wayne Workman
                        last edited by May 10, 2015, 4:07 PM

                        [quote=“need2, post: 47117, member: 21891”]There’s also 32bit efi files in the i386-efi folder.[/quote]

                        I never even thought of that…

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                        • Lee RowlettL
                          Lee Rowlett Developer
                          last edited by May 28, 2015, 8:41 AM

                          we have it working here with Windows DHCP 2012 - as Junkhacker said really is simple process just create the vendor class then setup the DHCP policy and specify bootfile (option 67 and don’t need to specify option 66 in the policy as it will pick this up from already defined option in the scope)

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                            need2 Moderator
                            last edited by May 29, 2015, 3:13 PM

                            I finally have all of our licenses in order, so I should be able to push forward with creating the new DHCP as early as next week. Thank you everyone for your input.

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                              Wayne Workman @need2
                              last edited by May 29, 2015, 3:17 PM

                              @need2
                              Documentation / screen shots please.

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                                need2 Moderator
                                last edited by May 29, 2015, 3:20 PM

                                Oh but of course.

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                                • Tom ElliottT
                                  Tom Elliott
                                  last edited by May 29, 2015, 4:22 PM

                                  I really wish we could get this working with a proxyDHCP or native dhcp systems. Maybe a third party utility rather than all requiring linux-dhcp and/or Windows Server 2012 or higher for user class support.

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                                    need2 Moderator
                                    last edited by May 29, 2015, 5:01 PM

                                    Yeah I really would love to find a way to package something into FOG as well. Unfortunately a lot of current UEFI systems I’ve been working with seem to really hate on the methods that are used to load the extra PXE data onto an existing DHCP Server’s response.

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                                      Wayne Workman
                                      last edited by Jul 9, 2015, 6:49 PM

                                      Just created this article:

                                      https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/BIOS_and_UEFI_Co-Existence

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                                        need2 Moderator
                                        last edited by Jul 14, 2015, 3:30 PM

                                        I should buy you a beer.

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                                          Sebastian Roth Moderator @need2
                                          last edited by Sep 19, 2015, 9:16 PM

                                          @need2 said:

                                          Yeah I really would love to find a way to package something into FOG as well. Unfortunately a lot of current UEFI systems I’ve been working with seem to really hate on the methods that are used to load the extra PXE data onto an existing DHCP Server’s response.

                                          I just came across this post: http://lists.thekelleys.org.uk/pipermail/dnsmasq-discuss/2015q1/009216.html

                                          I am trying to get in contact with him to see why WDS seams to work with proxyDHCP.

                                          Any new findings on this? I just updated Wayne’s article to include isc-dhcp config for BIOS/UEFI but I guess this is not the preferred way to go, right!?

                                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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