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Wayne Workman

Here is my first pass at the presentation layer: http://fog-external-reporting-results.theworkmans.us

The graphs/files/stats automatically are updated every hour. I think the graphs could use color adjustments, but overall I’m pretty satisfied. What do you all think? BTW, the data in here is real!

The next phase of this is abuse detection for the data reported. I need to scan for profanity, insults, etc; to keep the graphs clean. Python has tools for all of that.

Sebastian Roth

@Wayne-Workman Sounds awesome but right now I get a “Bad Gateway” message instead.

Wayne Workman

Fixed: http://fog-external-reporting-results.theworkmans.us/

Sebastian Roth

@Wayne-Workman Nice!

Looking at the data I am wondering how versions 1.5.2, 1.5.5 and 1.5.6 can make it into the database. From my point of view this is a good sign those installs still have an old version of the web UI sitting in /var/www/fog and the new one in /var/www/html/fog.

While I would hope we can figure out a way to detect those situations and let people know I would still think that we need a more generic way of grabbing the version info instead of using a static path for system.class.php.

Wayne Workman

good point… I suggest we look at both locations and send the one from the file with a newer timestamp.

Or maybe there is a better way?

Sebastian Roth

@Wayne-Workman said in Popularity Contest:

I suggest we look at both locations and send the one from the file with a newer timestamp.

While that would surely work I would really like to untangle this convoluted solution now and for ever. The more I think about it the less I want to add more if then else, check this, link here, try again, whatever. Let’s discuss the details in a new topic.

Please leave the reporting script as it is right now. It’s really good you added it this way so we got notice of this.

Wayne Workman

Thoughts on the external reporting DNS name?

Right now it’s: https://fog-external-reporting-entries.theworkmans.us:/api/records

This works fine, but it’s not a fogproject.org address.

If nobody has an opinion, I’m happy to leave it as-is forever, but I think it may be more appropriate if there’s an A Record created like fog-external-reporting-entries.fogproject.org. This can be set to the public IP of the server I’ve setup to record the entries, and also could be easily changed in the future if needed. I’m not immortal, nor is anyone else here so this is why I bring it up.

We really need to get it the way we want it before the next release.

Sebastian Roth

@george1421 Good point! Though I would use a more simple name that is easy to remember and type, e.g. stats.fogproject.org?

Wayne Workman

Sounds good.

Sebastian Roth

@Wayne-Workman said in Popularity Contest:

Right now it’s: https://fog-external-reporting-entries.theworkmans.us:/api/records

This URL does not seem to work in the browser. It’s the backend API URL if I am not on the wrong track. But we want the frontend URL http://fog-external-reporting-results.theworkmans.us/ right? Can you setup HTTPS as well?

Wayne Workman

Yeah the back-end only takes entries, nothing else.

The frontend url is less important, as that’s not needed in the fog codebase anywhere. It’s just a place one visits to see results. I can get HTTPS setup for it.

Wayne Workman

@Sebastian-Roth So when I try:

curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json"  -d '{"fog_version":"testing","os_name":"testing","os_version":"testing"}' https://stats-api.fogproject.org/api/records

This is the result:

curl: (6) Could not resolve host: stats-api.fogproject.org

Wayne Workman

@Sebastian-Roth if you can get an A record created for stats-api.fogproject.org with a value of 3.20.18.241 I can get the ssl cert and such fixed on my side (using lets encrypt). Once that’s all done, we can update the reporting script to use the new URL.

For the results to have a good redirect from stats.fogproject.org, I need the SSL cert to include that subject alternative name. Please create this record, it’ll allow me to create that SSL cert. These values below are not secrets, and they will timeout in 72 hours from now (sometime wednesday). if it’s not made by then I can get new values. This is part of how AWS verifies the cert your making is legit.

Name:
_395058431eb78e5f8f9cc2478adbdfa3.stats.fogproject.org.

Type:
CNAME

Value:
_ee8469a4f9a938de348ef383be83b11f.zbkrxsrfvj.acm-validations.aws.

If this can’t be done for whatever reason, I can use the original results URL and it’ll work fine, just redirects from stats.fogproject.org won’t work.

Here’s the changes on the cloud side if you were interested.

Sebastian Roth

@wayne-workman said in Popularity Contest:

For the results to have a good redirect from stats.fogproject.org, I need the SSL cert to include that subject alternative name.

That’s interesting. While I can look it up using the host command I can’t ping it.

$ host stats.fogproject.org
stats.fogproject.org is an alias for fog-external-reporting-results.theworkmans.us.
$ ping stats.fogproject.org
ping: stats.fogproject.org: Name or service not known

Wayne Workman

@sebastian-roth Right, the alias is fine, please leave it as-is.

I tried without the subject alternative name and got browser errors related to SSL. The front-end is in AWS CloudFront, which uses AWS ACM for ssl certs. I can’t make a cert with the fogproject SAN in it without the verification. Right now, it’s not set-up as I figured we wanted to get the redirect working right. If that can’t be done, no big deal.

Wayne Workman

Tried emailing chuck, he has not replied. For now, I’ve removed all of the fogproject.org references, and HTTPS is working directly (redirect does not work). This is fine until Chuck can help with the DNS records.

Sebastian Roth

@Wayne-Workman Do you think adding the kernel version used might be possible? We see many people using non-default kernel versions and it might be interesting to add that information as well.

I have not looked into it yet. So no idea how much work it might be. Just bringing up the idea before it fades away in my head.

Wayne Workman

@sebastian-roth I’ll look into it. I assume you mean FOS kernel, not FOG server’s kernel. Hold on the release while I poke at this please.

Sebastian Roth

@wayne-workman said in Popularity Contest:

I assume you mean FOS kernel, not FOG server’s kernel.

Exactly, thanks!

Wayne Workman

@Sebastian-Roth as well as all the others ( @developers @moderators @testers )

Would we want anything besides kernel information? I had some ideas:

Number of hosts
Number of images
Number of each type of image
Number of systems imaged in the last 7 days
Number of storage nodes
Number of storage groups
Other things?

It’s been said before, but will say it again. This is all anonymous data. There is no way to correlate this data back to any system.

It just provides us insight (and possibly bragging rights). imagine us being able to say “FOG imaged a bazillion systems last week, we’re proud of that” or maybe “FOG assists with managing a quadrillion million computer systems every day”. I’m being funny with the imaginary figures here, but you get the idea. It’d be nice to make statements like that on the home page fogproject.org

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