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    • W
      Wolfbane8653 Developer
      last edited by Wolfbane8653

      Fog v1.5.4
      Kernal 4.19.64
      Device: HP DC7800 (YES OLD!)

      When deploying image “rcu_sched self detected stall on CPU when” is displayed an some cpu statics are shown. I figured bad motherboard or cpu so I replaced the entire board and still the same issue occurred. Tried 3 other machines of the same model and no luck. rcu_sched self detected stall on CPU when capture gave me the info I needed but this apparently has not been fixed.

      Is this due to a conflict with the age of the hardware and the new kernal updates?

      This does not effect my other hardware at all they all imaged perfectly with Kernal 4.19.64. Only dc7800’s are the issue.

      FYI:
      Kernal 4.19.64 64 – not working
      Kernal 4.19.48 64 – not working
      Kernal 4.19.36 64 – not working
      Kernal 4.19.6 64 – need to test
      Kernal 4.19.1 64 – need to test
      …
      Kernal 4.17.0 64 – not working
      Kernal 4.16.6 64 – works
      Kernal 4.15.2 64 – works

      HP Compaq dc7800p Small Form Factor
      Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
      6GB RAM
      160 GB HDD – WDC WD1600AAJS-00B4A0

      BIOS Version786F1 v01.04 v01.35
      Motherboard 0AA8h

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      • george1421G
        george1421 Moderator
        last edited by

        For this specific host manually register it and then in the host definition add the following to the kernel args field acpi=off. Lets see where that gets us.

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        • Q
          Quazz Moderator
          last edited by

          The original problem in that thread was solved afaik.

          That said, rcu_sched can actually be caused by many different things, your case seems different.

          Since it’s directly preceded by ACPI errors, disabling ACPI as George suggested is a good start.

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          • W
            Wolfbane8653 Developer
            last edited by

            FYI 4.16.6 64 – works

            • Reset Kernals back to v4.19.64
            • Deleted host from Fog database
            • Manual registration
            • Set Host Kernel Arguments with acpi=off
            • Set to Deploy
            • Kernal panic
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            • Q
              Quazz Moderator @Wolfbane8653
              last edited by

              @Wolfbane8653 Can you share a picture of the result with acpi=off?

              Also can you share the specifications of the system?

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              • W
                Wolfbane8653 Developer
                last edited by

                Kernal 4.17.0 64 – does not work.

                • Kernal 4.19.64 with acpi=off
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                • W
                  Wolfbane8653 Developer
                  last edited by

                  @Quazz –

                  HP Compaq dc7800p Small Form Factor
                  Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
                  6GB RAM
                  160 GB HDD – WDC WD1600AAJS-00B4A0

                  BIOS Version786F1 v01.04
                  Motherboard 0AA8h

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                  • george1421G
                    george1421 Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                    last edited by

                    @Wolfbane8653 Also make sure the firmware is updated on this target computer.

                    We just ran through debugging this issue with a new intel platinum processor. That processor had an issue with the number of cores being capped at 8. In this case the processor is old so we should not be hitting that bug here.

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                    • Q
                      Quazz Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                      last edited by

                      @Wolfbane8653 A BIOS update may be required.

                      Other than that, trying out this kernel here might be interesting: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZiRWrrN3dv26bLwW8GAEdLtzGw5xkyQI

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                      • W
                        Wolfbane8653 Developer
                        last edited by

                        BIOS updated to v1.35 (Latest)
                        Kernal 4.19.64 still does not work.

                        Custom Kernal still does not work
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                        • Q
                          Quazz Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                          last edited by Quazz

                          @Wolfbane8653 Please try kernel argument tsc=unstable

                          Then try kernel argument clocksource=hpet

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                          • george1421G
                            george1421 Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                            last edited by

                            @Wolfbane8653 I’m currently building a FOS Linux kernel without acpi support to see if we can get past the rcu_sched issue. I can say tracking down this type of issue does take time because its hardware/model specific. If you can get one of the kernel parameters that Quazz mentioned to work is the preferable route. I’ll post a link to the noacpi generated kernel when its done building.

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                            • george1421G
                              george1421 Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Here is a test kernel with no acpi functions supported: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1siERUC9h8MfQIXbqrQShKOHc55h5xK3q

                              Download it as bzImageNoACPI and move it to /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe directory on your fog server. Then go into the host definition for this specific host with the rcu_sched error and enter bzImageNoACPI (watch the case) into the kernel field and save the host configuration. Then pxe boot the target computer into imaging to see if we can get past the cpu stall.

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                              • W
                                Wolfbane8653 Developer @george1421
                                last edited by Wolfbane8653

                                @Quazz

                                • tsc=unstable – works with Kernel 4.19.64
                                • clocksource=hpet – works with Kernel 4.19.64

                                So both of these commands work!

                                @george1421 – bzImageNoACPI creates a kernal panic. IDE is turned on in the BIOS. I do not use the RAID function for these machines.
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                                • Q
                                  Quazz Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  I’m glad those commands worked.

                                  So this is a problem that I think was introduced in the Spectre/Meltdown patches and only affects Core 2 CPUs.

                                  I thought it was supposed to be fixed in Kernel 4.19, but apparently not.

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                                  • george1421G
                                    george1421 Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                                    last edited by

                                    @Wolfbane8653 said in rcu_sched self detected stall on CPU when Deploying:

                                    tsc=unstable – works with Kernel 4.19.64
                                    clocksource=hpet – works with Kernel 4.19.64

                                    Great on fixing it with the timing source. That is the solution. As for my noacpi I figured that would happen because I also removed the acpi boot device drivers too. It was a risk, but the right answer is with the kernel parameters with the stock kernel. Well done!

                                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                    • W
                                      Wolfbane8653 Developer @george1421
                                      last edited by

                                      So I’m guessing I’m going to need to edit all 100 of my units to have this argument? Or are you working on having a new bzImage for me to test?

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                                      • Q
                                        Quazz Moderator @Wolfbane8653
                                        last edited by Quazz

                                        @Wolfbane8653 You can safely set this globally, unless you have even older CPUs

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                                        • W
                                          Wolfbane8653 Developer @Quazz
                                          last edited by

                                          Current Solution set Kernel to 4.19.64 and set global option in Fog Configuration–> FOG Settings --> General Settings --> Kernel ARGS to tsc=unstable

                                          Luckly this is the last year for these machines.

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