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    FOG 0.33 Requirements

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    • F
      Fernando Gietz Developer
      last edited by

      Hi,
      I see in the SVN r898 the changelog.txt the next note:

      [QUOTE]Version 0.33

      *Operating system was moved from the Host object to the Image object. All images created on previous versions will need to be updated!
      *IP Address has been removed from the hosts section.
      *Fixed issue with 2TB+ (with 4K sectors) devices not being able to be imaged
      *Init.gz is now based on 2011.08
      *Added support for Windows 8
      *NOTE: FOG now requires the use of syspref with Window 7 sp1 and higher[/QUOTE]

      The use of sysprep will be a requirement or optional?

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        BryceZ
        last edited by

        As it stands right now, sysprep is no longer optional. It says Windows 7 and higher, but I think this will be true for Vista as well. If you can fix this people would be thrilled, but so far the devs haven’t had much luck with it.

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          Fernando Gietz Developer
          last edited by

          And which is the problem?
          FOG 0.32 can clone W7 without problems, no?

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          • falkoF
            falko Moderator
            last edited by

            guessing its due to the changes they made as 0.32 was unable to clone W8

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              Fernando Gietz Developer
              last edited by

              Ummmm… But the problem is the new structure of W7_SP1 and higher or the clone engine (partimage)?

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              • falkoF
                falko Moderator
                last edited by

                a dev will have to chime in for that, but for me its not even an issue. as i always use sysprep

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                  Fernando Gietz Developer
                  last edited by

                  We don’t use sysprep :(.
                  We manage 230 images, and is impossible use sysprep in all images.
                  And this requirement will be a big problem for us.

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                  • falkoF
                    falko Moderator
                    last edited by

                    damn that’s a lot of images!! why so many may I ask??

                    Currently I only manage a few, well only deploy one image really to all our pcs/laptops.

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                      BryceZ
                      last edited by

                      Last time I spoke with any of the devs about it we thought it was an issue with the /bin/fog script in the boot image.

                      Here is the diff between 0.32 and the latest SVN change for that script: [url]http://freeghost.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freeghost/trunk/src/buildroot/package/customize/fog/scripts/bin/fog?view=diff&r1=729&r2=891&diff_format=h[/url]

                      We’re not 100% sure that it’s a bug in that script, but it seems the most likely.

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                        Fernando Gietz Developer
                        last edited by

                        We use FOG to deploy our images in the university. We have more 40 centers (faculties, high schooles, …), 270 IT rooms and 6300 computers and 60 diferents users. Until now we have used REMBO as clone solution, and most of our images are monolitic (one IT room, one hardware, one software => one image). Change the work philosophy is very dificult and slow 😞

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                        • falkoF
                          falko Moderator
                          last edited by

                          ah I see, makes sense.

                          in comparison we are a tiny school lol and have around 500 machines, at least 6 different types of hardware but I still only use one image.

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                            chad-bisd Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I know this isn’t really on topic with the original post, but we currently manage images based on hardware and applications, so even if we deploy the same hardware to users at the high school and junior high, because they have different applications, they have different images. I prefer a as little work as possible after imaging. Right now that involves installing asset recovery software, logging as the targeted end user, initializing a few applications, and freezing the computer with Deep Freeze.

                            I tried using FOG snap-ins to deploy some of the software after imaging, but I ended up spending more time verifying the installs worked and troubleshooting the failed ones than I saved by having fewer images to maintain. Until I find a robust, EASY and foolproof way to deploy applications and user settings, having mostly complete images for each hardware base and application group wins.


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                              Fernando Gietz Developer
                              last edited by

                              Hi,
                              BryceZ, the problem is only with monopartition resizeble images?

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                                BryceZ
                                last edited by

                                Correct. Resizable images do not use the cloned systems disk geometry and try to replace the MBR with a standard copy; for some reason this is no longer functional.

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                                  Fernando Gietz Developer
                                  last edited by

                                  As monopartition images in W7, we understand a W7 image with: 100 MB W7 special partition + XXX GB W7 system partition, no?

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                                    BryceZ
                                    last edited by

                                    As I understand it, 0.32 can handle both scenarios with and without the 100MB partition.

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                                      dvlsg
                                      last edited by

                                      [quote=“BryceZ, post: 10239, member: 2”]As I understand it, 0.32 can handle both scenarios with and without the 100MB partition.[/quote]

                                      Yup, I can confirm this. Currently we’re doing W7 with the 100MB partition, but we were doing it without the partition just a couple months ago.

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                                        Fernando Gietz Developer
                                        last edited by

                                        And FOG 0.33 beta can resize W7 sysprep monopartition images?

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                                          BryceZ
                                          last edited by

                                          Correct. It seems to have no problem with a system that has been sysprepped.

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