Posts made by The Dealman

You used these files? [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/attachments/fog-zip.321/[/url]

[quote=“smshahan, post: 13196, member: 2574”]Did you figure this out or do you still need assistance?[/quote]

Do you have this working?

[quote=“smshahan, post: 13196, member: 2574”]Did you figure this out or do you still need assistance?[/quote]

I haven’t gotten it to work so i put init.gz file back how it was.

[quote=“Chuck Syperski, post: 13088, member: 4”][SIZE=15px][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Hello everyone, [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]So it has been a while since we have released anything any FOG updates and many of your are wondering what’s going on, so I thought an update was in order. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Like many of you, my time has become constrained so the amount of time I have been able to dedicate to version 0.33 has been less than it should be. Peter Gilchrist did an awesome job filling in and helping out with getting the UI closer to where it should be. What we have been stuck on for a little while has been EFI/GPT support, which is important with Windows 8 and modern PCs. Much of this has been an issue with a lack of hardware to effectively test on. There is a little bit more UI work that needs to be done before we can release 0.33, but the biggest issue has been EFI, so if anyone is knowledgeable in this area and would like to help us out we would be grateful! Once we tackle EFI, we should be able to release soon afterwards. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]FOG has a couple issues that have been ignored and not really addressed. I am talking about the issues with security, feature bloat, coupling of systems, and an aging code-base. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]In terms of security, there are a number of issues that need to be addressed. One obvious issue is the fact that anyone can mount the NFS volumes, as they don’t use authentication. There are numerous other issues as well including the “service” scripts not using any authentication either which is problematic. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]FOG initially grew quickly in terms of features to it own detriment. I believe we have a number of features that should not be included in the core release of FOG as they are becoming difficult to maintain. A few of these that come to mind include ClamAV and many of the advanced tasks like file recovery, testdisk, and password reset. Many of the features within the Windows service are no longer functional with Windows 7 and up, but I will discuss the Windows service in more detail later. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]FOG relies on many operating system specific features, which I believe it no longer has to. FOG is tightly coupled with tftpd, nfs, and to a lesser degree isc dhcp server. This makes it difficult for FOG to run on other operating systems like Windows or even other Linux distributions. It also makes FOG fragile to changes in the underlying systems, often when a new Ubuntu LTS is released something breaks with FOG. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Lastly, the thing that has been bothering me for a while is the aging code-base. The code was poorly written in the first place and we have just kept adding to it. Peter has helped clean up the code, but in my opinion we are still putting lipstick on a pig. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]So here is what I would like to see. First off, I would like to get some community help with EFI/GPT, and get 0.33 out the door. No surprises here.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Then I would like to change things up a bit. I would like to form two or three teams, one that would maintain the UI, and at minimum another to maintain the Linux init image and kernel. I would like to then either discontinue the Windows service (since we can change the hostname via the init image now) or move it to another team.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]After this I would like to throw away the currently version of FOG and do a rewrite, it is about that time. As part of the rewrite here are my goals:[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

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[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Write a custom tftp server into the server. This will allow for improved security, less dependence on the underlying OS, and potential for scaling out more easily. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Drop NFS and replace it with HTTP. This will improve security and cut the dependence on the underlying OS. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Make FOG run on any OS. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Move services like ImageReplicationService and Multicast service into the core context. This also helps reduce the dependence on the underlying OS. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Improve security in general, https out of the box, only serve images that have active tasks, etc. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]Pair down the feature set to something more manageable. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px](Here comes the controversial change, get ready…) Move away from PHP. I don’t do much work in PHP any longer, I don’t want to start a flame war, but there are somethings I love about PHP (ie: it’s a psuedo functional language and FP is good.) but there are also things that I really don’t like about PHP, and those I won’t go into here. I would prefer to rewrite the FOG front-end is a statically typed language like Scala with Play2 potential or even Java (I know I said a bad word). [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=15px]With all this being said, the next thing that needs to get done is support for EFI/GPT as Windows 8 and current PCs pretty much make this a requirement. If we can figure out EFI, I think we can get things back on track. So my questions to the community are do you think we can build the teams I described? Do you know anyone that would be interested in working on the init/kernel side of things? Any other general thoughts, suggestions? [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

[COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4]Here’s my 2 cents…i think all those extra tools [FONT=Arial] like file recovery, testdisk, and password reset should be add-on’s that are available for download sort of like those other kernels that are out there. [/FONT][FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial] It’s cheaper to replace hard drives than to purchase a imaging solution but h[/FONT]ard drive support (advance format & SSD) has to be a goal, i’ve been able to mung a solution together a for those pesky advance format drives but it’s not 100% so i have to replace the drives i can’t image. The security goals are nice but i don’t think they are a necessity, a nice to have item for me would be a better way to do snap-ins. If i had that it would reduce the size of images by far ![/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

I figured it out, i had to disable the encryption before imaging.

Has anyone tried to image any of the FIPS 104-2 hard drives? If so did you do anything special?

[quote=“Jaymes Driver, post: 12939, member: 3582”]I see, I use to image that way as well. Just make sure to sysprep before uploading to fog, you shouldn’t have any problems releasing the CMID information for a new client. Each Windows OS has a built in number of “re-arms” for imaging anyway.

I’m uploading a raw image as I type this and so far it has taken 11 min and 14 min remain. Image size 23.24 gb. uploading at ~920 mib/min.

I’d look into a custom kernel or using the “Kitchen Sink” kernel. Have you tried deploying? Does it also take just as long to deploy as upload?[/quote]

I actually may have what thought of what the issue is with what i’m doing. I started reading up on ahci for the sata mode type in the bios, in the past with my windows 7 images i used ata mode. I’m going to try and change it to that & see if it works or not. It’s been a while since i had to create a new image so i may have had a brain fart

What’s suppose to be in the init.gz file? I see the init file inside of mine, am i suppose to download the fog.zip file & overwrite the init.gz file ? or do i take out the fog file & add that to my init.gz file?

As you can see i’m confused on this one

[quote=“x23piracy, post: 12240, member: 3982”]Hi,

these are the changes i found:

[B]==========================Change 1==========================[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Czb26ws.png[/IMG]

[B]==========================Change 2==========================[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/WWLRp1D.png[/IMG]

[B]==========================Change 3==========================[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ySnh8cj.png[/IMG]

[B]==========================Change 4==========================[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wlHPUlK.png[/IMG]

[B]==========================Change 5==========================[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0N6GeHC.png[/IMG]

Anyway your file works

Greetz X23[/quote]

I have tried those KitchenSinks in the past & they have been hit or miss for me. I found kernel that had the network driver in on this site under the hardware section i think. At this time i’m fighting the error
[SIZE=5][B]unable to move /images/dev/macaddress to /images/name-of-image[/B][/SIZE]

I tried the steps here [url]http://www.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Images_Directory_Permissions[/url] but none of those worked. I had this issue before but i don’t recall what i did to resolve it

[quote=“Jaymes Driver, post: 12936, member: 3582”]When I set up a Windows 8 Virtual box, for imaging, and I am ready to upload my image, I always choose Windows 7 as the OS type, Multiple Partition, All disks (Non-Resizable) as the type, and I NEVER run fogprep, only sysprep. This will cause it to upload as yes a RAW format which takes a little longer to upload, but it shouldn’t take THAT long to upload.

So far is seems that your set up is fine.

When you said you are pushing an image are you pushing a virtual image? It’s really recommended you use Virtual Box and set your image up for deployment there. After sysprep upload to your FOG server.

Have you used the machines you are currently working with before? Have you imaged them with FOG before?
the reason I ask is because if the drivers aren’t available in the Kernel when it boots then you can get some pretty shotty speeds.

I built my own custom kernel including the drivers necessary and I can upload a ~30gb image in under 20 minutes.

something else to consider, if you have jetdirect cards or any printers on the same network as the machines imaging, un plug the printer until you are done casting, I don’t know if the cards are causing a loop back or what, but I notice a SUBSTANTIAL increase in time (13+ hours) when I leave those damn printers on!

I can’t answer much about the CMID, as I didn’t even activate it was more or less a test to see if the hardware could handle the OS and if the software we were using could handle the OS. The image booted fine, and the software worked well, boss man just decided to stick with 7 this year.[/quote]

How long does it take you to upload and push a raw image? I’m not using any virtual apps because i have physical test machines (1 of each model i have in my network). I’m test windows 8 deployment on the dell inspiron 15z right now.

[quote=“chad-bisd, post: 12087, member: 18”]I am experimenting with Windows 8 and FOG 0.32. I set my OS type to Vista and use Multiple Partition Single Disk. I am not using FOGPrep, but going through sysprep in audit mode to setup the system, then sysprep to oobe.

My only issue is not FOG related afaik, my systems aren’t generated unique CMID’s. I do have them auto activating Windows and Office 2013 against a Server 2012 domain controller though, so it’s a partial success.[/quote]

When you do a upload or push what does it say for you file system type? mine says raw & it take 9 to 12 hours per computer like this

[quote=“chad-bisd, post: 12087, member: 18”]I am experimenting with Windows 8 and FOG 0.32. I set my OS type to Vista and use Multiple Partition Single Disk. I am not using FOGPrep, but going through sysprep in audit mode to setup the system, then sysprep to oobe.

My only issue is not FOG related afaik, my systems aren’t generated unique CMID’s. I do have them auto activating Windows and Office 2013 against a Server 2012 domain controller though, so it’s a partial success.[/quote]

Very interesting i’m going lab this right now because i have the setup as you

I actually found my answer here [URL=‘http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/dell-2330-all-in-one-network-issue.1054/#post-9005’]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/dell-2330-all-in-one-network-issue.1054/#post-9005 works great[/URL]

I bought a few Dell Insipron 15z for testing, I have plans to deploy windows 8 in a few areas but i noticed that fog doesn’t play nice with model. Here is the link to the nic info [url]http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/Product/inspiron-15z-5523[/url] i think it maybe a what kernel works with this? [URL=‘http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/Product/inspiron-15z-5523?driverId=6D7F2&osCode=W864&fileId=3081978216&languageCode=EN&categoryId=NI’][LEFT][SIZE=15px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][U][COLOR=#3399cc]Atheros AR8161 Ethernet Controller[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT][/URL][URL=‘http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/Product/inspiron-15z-5523?driverId=6D7F2&osCode=W864&fileId=3081978216&languageCode=EN&categoryId=NI’][LEFT][SIZE=15px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][U][COLOR=#3399cc][/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT][/URL]

Also on a side note has anyone deployed windows 8 from fog 0.32?

[quote=“BryceZ, post: 8935, member: 2”]The testing thread is [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/bugs-in-fog-0-33.631[/url]. Feel free to jump in and give a hand, just make sure you’re not cluttering up the thread with useless questions (search before you ask).

As for a release date… when it’s ready. I know that’s not the answer most people are looking for, but it’s the truth. There are three FOG developers, each with real jobs that keep them busy. If more people help with testing then the devs can spend less of their own time tracking down bugs and more time fixing them.[/quote]

Is this still a work in progress? or is it dying?

[quote=“nickd5009, post: 10046, member: 2405”]Hi everyone I am a big fan of FOG and have had a great time playing around with it and find it fairly easy to work with even though I have no background in Linux thanks to these awesome forums. But I now have a question I would like to pose. We have been using FOG for a little over a year now. There a many different locations within the organization but right now we only image at the main location. The network ability is not enough to push an image to our remote sites. I want to deploy storage nodes and or NFS file shares to give us the ability to image at every location. So now my questions.

1. When imaging from a storage node I know it downloads the boot file from the fog server. is that all the network resources it would take? Or does it still pull the image from the fog server along with the storage node?

2. If I setup a NFS does it act completely the same as a storage node?

3. is there possible another option I could look at?

Thanks in advance for any input.[/quote]

I faced that same issue about 2 years ago now, i ended up deploying standalone fog servers at each location on cheap HW. I use filezilla to transfer updated images to them, i thought it was going to be a pain to management them all but it’s been great for me and the Level 1 & 2 guys

[quote=“Jian Zhang, post: 9886, member: 16”][FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]We posted kernel 3.6.9 Core on Sourceforge. Please try it out.[/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]To update[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]FOG webui > other info > Kernel updates[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333] or download from [url]http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeghost/files/Kernels/Kernel-linux-3.6.9.core/[/url][/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]Published Kernels[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]Kernel - 3.6.9 Core[/COLOR][/FONT]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Ubuntu]FOG ID: 1050[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Ubuntu]Date: December 7, 2012[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Ubuntu]Version: 3.6.9[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT=Ubuntu]FOG Type: Core[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Any release notes on this kernel update?

[quote=“golpemortal, post: 9308, member: 2653”]ok can you point me out to a good tutorial… this one here is a bit complicated for newbee like me[/quote]

I dont believe a guide exists but
Go into the c:\Windows\Setup\Scripts folder (if you dont see a scripts folder then make one) in the scripts folder you should have 2 files to make this work. You need a diskpart.txt file that has the code below in it
select disk 0
select partition 2
extend

then in the SetupComplete.cmd file add this

diskpart /s C:\Windows\Setup\Scripts\diskpart.txt
del /Q /F C:\Windows\Setup\Scripts\diskpart.txt

make any other changes that you need to then sysprep and upload your image. When you go to deploy
it should work.

that’s all you need to make this work

[quote=“golpemortal, post: 9293, member: 2653”]Dealman can you give me a steps by steps on implenting this tutoral from A to Z.
the error message that I got was when I ran the setupcomplete.cmd on the command prompt and was complanning about REG ADD format…

could it been that I was not doing it right , since this is my first time messing with fog cloning I would like some help…[/quote]

I didn’t do the whole reg add part. i called the disk part from SetupComplete.cmd script like what David suggested