[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40985, member: 7271”]If you’re able to, can you please upgrade to trunk?[/quote]
Absolutely!!! I can do anything with the system but, how? What do I need to do to upgrade the trunk? I think this is part also of the SVN which I know nothing about it. Any help appreciated.
[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40980, member: 7271”]
If you would, you could recreate the upload task, but enable it as a Debug task. If you’re on the Latest SVN (sorry I forget which specific rev that I added this feature).
Hopefully this part helps.[/quote]
Here is probably where I am going to need lots of help. I am not sure what is the SVN or how to even download/install it on the system. If you can kindly provide me with a brief on how to I will be more than glad to proceed so. I am using FOG 1.2.0 so far.
The other thing that comes to mind is to rebuild the machine again from scratch and see if it will upload the file. I don’t think I have tried that route and as you mention I might have some GPT. I will low format the drive and do it all over again just to make sure it is doing it from scratch.
Hi Tom:
I am trying to give as much information as possible but, I am where you are. I am not sure what is going on. I am only getting it with Windows 8.1 when it is manually installed. Please see the update below, perhaps that can provide more information.
Update:
I am diagnosing what the system is doing and paying attention today, I don’t think it is the PXE boot process as I am able to boot all the way to the FOG menu when there is not task pending. I am starting to think the issue is actually with something else as I can see also the FOG logo right before the Created By comes up. It actually list the operating system, CPU, file type and even it mounts the file system. Then it move to checking the file system then to preparing backup location all the way to Using Hard Disk: /dev/sda and then it just sit there. Here is the big question, what is it loading at this point?
[quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 40748, member: 3362”]Um would this help at all?
"[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]1. Enter Bios from startscreen (Delete)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]2. Select “Authentication” (right key)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]3. Select “Secure Boot” and set it to Disabled[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]4. Select “Boot Option” (right key)[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]5. Select “Launch CSM” and set it to Allways[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]*1 [6. Select “Boot Menu” and set it to Enabled][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][7. Select DVD, Removable Device or LAN as 1. Boot Device][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]Press F10 and Yes[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]*1 [Press F12 from startscreen to select Boot Menu][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]NB!! Remember to set back 3 and 5 when you are finished another boot device.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]Regards[SIZE=14px]" ~[/SIZE][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#141414][url]http://community.acer.com/t5/Desktops-All-In-Ones/Aspire-5600U-Bios/td-p/201413[/url][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/quote]
This is similar to what I do with the Lenovo, however, on the the one I am having the issue there is very limited what I can do with it. As you can see my configuration is very close to your but with less features.
Here are some screenshots:
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[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40893, member: 7271”]Can you try the undionly.kkpxe boot file instead of the undionly.kpxe?[/quote]
This is an interesting point. I have a DD-WRT router that directs to the FOG server, however, it doesn’t matter which image I use to try to boot as always redirect to to the default. Is that what has to happen?
[quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40846, member: 21583”]In my experience “COMPUTER’S BUILDERS” and “GAMERS” know far less about computers then what they think they know. They know the benchmark stats on the latest-and-greatest hardware, but very little about how computers actually work. They base performance assumptions on low level information that they don’t understand.
Fog supports and flawlessly deploys every version of windows to date and has been tested against the windows 10 technical preview.
Fog does have some gaps in it’s support, like UEFI and quirks with the client software, but they are actively being worked on.[/quote]
There are all kind of test in the Internet most of them are pay-driven test for sale (advertising). I am not sure what kind of gamers you know but the one I relate and I play with are very savvy on hardware, including chipsets, front and side buss, transfer rate, memory access, CPU cache size (type of memory) direct and indirect buss communication and more. Perhaps they are not real gamers as they say.
I have installed Windows 8 on three different systems and the only one that works was an old HP Compaq DX2400 series that uses old BIOS with limited configuration.The BIOS is an old AMI Ver. 02.61 that when I installed Windows 8 and Windows 10 it works wonderfully. But when I go and install the same OS on newer systems it just don’t work. I even installed in a Lenovo B50 (make and model) and still no go. I have configured the BIOS and disable security and enable legacy and still fails. However, if I do it with Acronis it works just fine. That said, I am not sure at this point what is wrong. I will try Ghost and see if that give any hassle.
Update:
I gather what you are saying Tom. Many don’t even know what exactly is a BIOS and the differences between a BIOS and CMOS. Most people that build computers just put pieces together but “COMPUTER’S BUILDERS” or “GAMERS” will know more about the hardware than many people that fix computers. That is because they base performance on many low level information. However, I still see your point.
Created and image with RAW and when it was reimage to same machine from which the image was created; the image was corrupted. I am starting to give up on FOG supporting Windows 8. I have invested a week so far in this issue and have not answers to any of my questions. I will be moving forward with a different solution for Window 8. At this point the question rises; will FOG support Windows 10? As it has been noted those operating systems are base on Windows 7 but they are totally different animals.
For now I am done with this post.
I want to thanks everyone that tried or try to assists.
Hi Tom:
Yes, I understand where you coming from but base on my experience I have seeing many systems using the same mobo with the same BIOS. While, as you mention, companies can customized the BIOS there are minor modifications. The idea was focus on other possible FOG’s users withe different make and model (feel like I am talking about a car…LOL) but they have the same modo with the same BIOS.
BTW:
The BIOS/UEFI is: Version 2.15.1227 Acer
Thank you.
[quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 40709, member: 3362”]Can we get some make and models?
Maybe if someone else has the same device or close they would jump in here and help out. I have an Acer desktop here on a side work order but it works well with fog.[/quote]
You are focusing in the make an model when you should be focusing in the type of BIOS the system is running. Does your ACER is UEFI or just plain old BIOS? Many systems independent of the manufacturer use the same mobo with the same BIOS/UEFI in the board. For instance Many systems comes with AMI or Phoenix BIOS. It would be more beneficial to pain attention at the type of BIOS and file systems. For instance in my case I have to use GPT as part of the UEFI as I cannot disable UEFI. The Acer is a Veriton M275 series. I will provide the UEFI as soon as the system finish creating the image.
Thank you for all your assistance.
[quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 40652, member: 3362”]Can you list the devices that are “only UEFI”?[/quote]
The systems are all ACER computers. I have been up and down in the BIOS and I don’t see anything to disable UEFI. I am also getting some Lenovos and it seems that I will be running on the same issue. On the Lenovo I was able to upload the original image but when I download it back to the system well, the system crashed and a repair had to be done. On the last one, the hard drive was wiped and Windows 8.1 was installed manually (less bloated) to customize the system, in this instance the image just locked again.
One point to clarify is that it never fails, it just sit in the very last screen before actually doing the upload. I have to either press enter or shutdown the system to force the system out of the induced coma. Does that help?
I am still trying to figure out if there are any logs that can be pulled to see what is going on. I know it could be an issue with GPT discovery in the code as mention previously. Is it possible to fix the issue with GPT? The only way to create the image was using raw but it will take too long.
Thank you in advance for any assistance.
Update:
As a test I moved Windows 8 to a regular BIOS with MBR and it works just great. However, I am getting systems that only support UEFI. Meaning GPT will be used as a file system in stead of MBR. The BIOS do not offer a way to disable GPT. Will there be a fix to support GPT in the near future? As we all know MBR will eventually dispensary and GPT will be the dominant beast on the field.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Thank you for the info Junkhacker. I was able to recover the storage. Somewhere along the lines the configuration got lost. I reconfigured the system manually and I was able to recovered the storage.
Hi Tom.
Thank you for your response. Base on the option given on the drop down menu, it has to go with single disk multiple partitions. Windows 7 and Windows 8 multipartition the HDD by default, that said, the best option would be Multiple Partition Image - Single Disk which in FOG it is not resizable. I haven’t have any issues with Windows 7 only with Windows 8. Also 4096 KB sectors are native to Windows 8, keep in mind that my aim is to create a distributable image of Windows 8. I will look and see what else it can be done to upload images. I am not sure how to remove the GPT partition as I believe it is define by Windows (under investigation LOL).
Interesting question: Does fog 1.2.0 support Windows 8/8.1?
After booting and trying to upload the images to the server any of the working systems is getting locked when trying to upload the image to the server. If enter is depressed then the following messages are displayed:
*Saving partition tables…Invalid partition data
Done
*Task Completed!
The system is going for down NOW!
Sent SIGTERM to all processes
Sent SIGKILL to all processes
Requesting system poweroff
Even knowingly the image hasn’t been upload to the server the task is completed, is this a bug? It seems that the conditions to meet Windows 8/8.1 are not properly define. Is there a FOGprep like there is for Windows 7? Doing just SYSPREP is not working. Any advice?
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Update3:
Find the issue. In the so many changes the permission were changed. Changing the permission back fix the issue of writing images. However some of the systems still don’t boot using the Realtek B02 D00. Some of them have the RTL 8111B/8111C V2.15 (080314) version. Most of them in the same family are the one giving me issues booting to PXE.
Update2:
Well a major malfunction has been discovered which it is driving me to think it is not the PXE boot. The systems can download but can’t upload images. Any advice on what it might be?
Update:
I tried to boot from one of my systems that I know for a fact it boots from PXE and it is freezing when trying to communicate to FOG. It seems it cannot find the local storage. I got a better idea, this is getting really messy. I would like to start from a clean slate, does any one know how I can move my images to a new system? Can any one point me in the right direction?
Thank you for all you assistance guys.
All files under /tftpboot were updated with the new files from the link. One point to mention is that the DHCP servers is a DD-WRT device with a redirection to the pxe file. Also it seems that all my system are looking for a default.ipxe file which it is resident under /tftpboot. It seems the code only directs to the default.ipxe and not to any other file in under /tftpboot folder. The default.ipxe has a script that seems to look for the appropriate PXE file but I am not sure. BTW: FOG ver 1.2.0 if that makes any difference.
The issue is related to the specific boot ROM. As there are different model of computers that have it. Some are UEFI some are just plain old BIOS. In the UEFI the legacy is enable. I have the same issue with some Lenovo too. Except that the Lenovo give IPv4 Error and then try to boot to IPv6 where it is not enabled. But I would like to focus on the first issue at hand. Sorry for the tangent.
There have been some issues with some PXE ROMs that are unable to boot to the PXE screen. Every time the system is boot the system just locks at the boot screen and reboot. There are not BIOS updates for those systems as the support site does not offered any updates. Is there another type of PXE that needs to be loaded into FOG to be able to boot those systems?
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