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    RC10: Samsung EVO 850 SSD Issues

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    • george1421G
      george1421 Moderator @A Former User
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      @Dalton-Childers I think you right on track for confirming if there is a firmware update. There should be no external technical difference between the two drives. They are both presented to the host system via an SATA cable.

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        @george1421 According to Samsung’s site, no firmware updates have been release for the EVO 850s. 😞

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        • george1421G
          george1421 Moderator @A Former User
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          @Dalton-Childers Hmmm… Not to send you down too many rabbit holes, but I wonder if you can take a working system that is using a EVO 840 and use clonezilla to clone it to a system with an 850. The source and destination computers should be the same. So the question does a current version of clonezilla work vs FOG. Both use the same underlying tool (partclone) to move the image around. So we need to answer the question does clonezilla work better/same as FOG when you use it to clone hard drives.

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          • george1421G
            george1421 Moderator @george1421
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            @george1421 Are these new Samsun EVO 850s or did they have an operating system system already on them at one time, and that operating system being Win10?

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            • george1421G
              george1421 Moderator @george1421
              last edited by george1421

              @george1421 One other test. Install a target OS on this system (with the EVO 850) from source media. Make sure it boots and runs acceptable. Use FOG to capture this image to the fog server. Then use FOG to deploy that same image back to that same computer. If that works deploy the captured image to a like computer. Its also not clear in my mind is it the EVO 850 at fault or your image (for some reason).

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              • Tom ElliottT
                Tom Elliott
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                I’d lean more on the side of there actually being a problem with the flash rom on the EVO 850. What makes me say that? I’ve imaged many systems that contain an EVO 850 drive with no issues. I’m no longer with that work place, but I assure you EVO 850 is not the culprit itself.

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                • Tom ElliottT
                  Tom Elliott
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                  For confirmation of “said” disk vs. firmware issue, have you tried a different EVO 850 disk?

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @Tom-Elliott @george1421 Something I should have noted in the beginning is the Samsung EVO 850s work fine with FOG 1.2.0.

                    @Tom-Elliott Per your questions, yes we tried a different EVO 850. When I original came across the issue I tried multiple EVO 850 drives with the same result.

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                    • Tom ElliottT
                      Tom Elliott @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @Dalton-Childers then maybe try with an older kernel version? Maybe the driver changed and is causing this issue. I don’t know fully just trying to lead to a potential solution. Does this occur simply booting into fog or at a certain point in the imaging process?

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User

                        @Tom-Elliott The error appears after the image has finished and the system reboots.

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                        • Tom ElliottT
                          Tom Elliott @Tom Elliott
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                          @Tom-Elliott sorry reading further thr issue isn’t in the cloning process just when it’s trying to boot

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                          • Tom ElliottT
                            Tom Elliott @A Former User
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                            @Dalton-Childers can you go into a debug and get output of fdisk -l? Of course this on a disk that was just imaged to.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
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                              @Tom-Elliott Exactly, the image deploys fine. The same image will work with the EVO 840s on FOG 1.2.0 or 1.3.0, and works with the EVO 850s if deployed from FOG 1.2.0.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @Tom-Elliott It doesn’t make it far enough into the boot process to do that with installed OS, but I could try it by other means not sure that would yield any usable results.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @george1421 Per your questions about the drives, they were both straight out of the box with no OS installed previously.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by A Former User

                                    @Tom-Elliott
                                    0_1475717499709_Screenshot 2016-10-05 20.30.53.png

                                    I hooked the drive into my Mac Pro and ran diskutil list, which return the above bit of information.

                                    0_1475717652847_Screenshot 2016-10-05 20.33.47.png

                                    The above image is sudo fdisk disk.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @Tom-Elliott I’ve reverted back to kernel 3.18.2, because I found refers to that being the primary kernel for FOG 1.2.0. I’ll let everyone know if that resolves the issue…if not I’m going to try imaging a working computer (done with FOG 1.2.0) and drop the image on the EVO 850 using FOG 1.3.0.

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                                      • george1421G
                                        george1421 Moderator @A Former User
                                        last edited by george1421

                                        @Dalton-Childers To Tom’s point about " go into a debug and get output of fdisk -l "

                                        What he was recommending is on the system you just imaged. Schedule a new image right away, BUT on the scheduled task page enable the checkbox for debug deploy. Then pxe boot the target computer. This will tell the FOS Engine to boot on the target computer, display a bunch of text and after a few presses of the enter key drop you to a command prompt on the target system. This is the command shell for the FOS Engine (the linux OS that captures and deploys images on target devices). Obviously this OS can see the 850 EVO. Then run the fdisk -l command and post the output here.

                                        BTW: I don’t think kernel 3.18 will work with the new initz. You will probably get a kernel panic when your try to pxe boot it. But that is only a guess, and I’m a bad guesser.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @Tom-Elliott @george1421 The kernel test failed.

                                          Also, when you press F12 and select the hard drive as the boot option. It responds with the standard can’t find a bootable drive error. When you let it run thought pxe then fog then boot from hard drive you get the error I posted above.

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            @Tom-Elliott @george1421

                                            0_1475719288775_Screenshot 2016-10-05 21.01.03.png 0_1475719302347_Screenshot 2016-10-05 21.01.08.png 0_1475719313085_Screenshot 2016-10-05 21.01.13.png 0_1475719332160_Screenshot 2016-10-05 21.01.18.png

                                            ^ Requested output of fdisk -l

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