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    Windows 10: Product keys and naming?

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    • x23piracyX
      x23piracy @MadsMagnus
      last edited by x23piracy

      @MadsMagnus once a windows 10 has been activated (embedded or upgraded) there is no need to enter a key it will just activate fine.

      I have a lot upgraded pc’s and when i image key can also be empty it will activate the stored information on the ms activation servers.

      Regards X23

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        Wayne Workman @x23piracy
        last edited by Wayne Workman

        @x23piracy said in Windows 10: Product keys and naming?:

        @MadsMagnus once a windows 10 has been activated (embedded or upgraded) there is no need to enter a key it will just activate fine.

        I have a lot upgraded pc’s and when i image key can also be empty it will activate the stored information on the ms activation servers.

        Regards X23

        While true without fog, this is not true in the sense of the FOG Client and how it operates.

        If the key in the FOG DB does not match the local key, the client will change it and then activate it.

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          MadsMagnus @Wayne Workman
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          @Wayne-Workman

          When you say product key, you mean the newly generated product key from Windows 10 yes? Because right now I am trying to get this running by using our Windows 7 COA keys.

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            Quazz Moderator @MadsMagnus
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            @MadsMagnus I don’t believe there’s currently a way to extract the upgraded W10 key because they’re stored solely on W10 servers and all you get on your PC is a dummy key.

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              Wayne Workman @MadsMagnus
              last edited by Wayne Workman

              @MadsMagnus No mater how the key got there on the local host - if there is a different key set in the host’s Product Key field in the FOG DB, the new client will change the host’s key to the one from the FOG DB and then activate it.

              If you don’t want that to happen, leave the product key in FOG blank, or make sure the key stored matches (somehow).

              Also - going to ask @jbob to clairify when he gets time. Because of course I’ve been totally wrong before. But if I remember right, this is what he said about it.

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                MadsMagnus @Wayne Workman
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                @Wayne-Workman

                Do you know if it is the OA/OEM key that you fx would find on the COA of a machine - or the “translated” product key that is used once a machine is running W10? Because I cannot seem to find my original key anywhere once W10 is installed.

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                • Tom ElliottT
                  Tom Elliott @MadsMagnus
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                  @MadsMagnus the key value you put in the fog GUI is the very familiar 25 character Windows cd key nearly everybody is made aware of. If the machine you’re seeing this came with Windows 7 originally, the product key should be on the machine or with the user documentation/disks/books or whatever from when you got the machine. OEM keys are often stored in a SLIC format and the BIOS is queried to verify and activate the key automatically. In regards to Windows 8/8.1/10 I’m not sure how it knows what to do but it is usually automated and OEM still follows a very similar form.

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                    Quazz Moderator @Tom Elliott
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                    @Tom-Elliott Windows 8 often reads the key straight from BIOS if I’m not mistaken (assuming there is one in BIOS), Windows 10 checks with Microsoft servers if your computer is registered or not. (in other words, once registered, you no longer need the Windows 7 keys since it will activate off of the Microsoft servers).

                    However, I don’t know how it works if you want to use W7 keys to activate it. How does FOG enter the product key? Does it use the registry?

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                    • Tom ElliottT
                      Tom Elliott @Quazz
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                      @Quazz That is a question best left for answer by @joe-schmitt.

                      I don’t understand C# code, but I can follow “logic” paths so, if you’re anything like me in the sense of reading:

                      https://github.com/FOGProject/fog-client/blob/master/Modules/HostnameChanger/Windows/WinActivation.cs

                      If I’m reading into this properly, it would appear it’s using Windows native DLL’s to perform the checks and activation process.

                      Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                      • x23piracyX
                        x23piracy @Quazz
                        last edited by x23piracy

                        @Quazz it uses slmgr.

                        Example:

                                private static bool InstallProductKey(string key)
                                {
                                    Log.Entry(LogName, "Installing Product key");
                                    return RunSLMGR("/ipk", key) == 0;
                                }
                        

                        Check Windows + R > slmgr.vbs /?

                        Regards X23

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