Best version of Ubuntu for FOG 1.2.0



  • Just curious what everyone recommends as far as Ubuntu version for FOG 1.2.0. I’m setting up a FOG server at work, last week I tried setting up 14.04 and everything was working fine. I rebooted the FOG server and after that, I got tftp timeouts on my test client. Last night, I rebuilt it with 12.04 and same thing… worked fine and after server reboot tftp timeouts. It was also wanting to update the database schema when going to the address in a web browser even after I did initially during setup.

    I’m going to install Win7 x64 on the PC tonight, install Virtualbox and build it again as a VM. Just want to know what everyone recommends for Ubuntu version, I will be installing the desktop version as my linux skills are lacking.


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  • @Wayne-Workman said:

    @Juan-Antonio as Tom said earlier, the problem with Windows XP is fixed in FOG Trunk. Can you try to upgrade? https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_to_trunk

    I’ve tried it, but it gives me error, I used a couple methods with the same result, I even tried to install the package (php5-mysqlnd) independently and Ubuntu Server 10.04 tells me not found.

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    @Wayne-Workman We’re in the process of replacing an XP desktop that was running the controller for our HVAC with a Windows 10 system. I guess we can let this new one sit for another 10 years. :P



  • @Wayne-WorkmanIt It is true. I did not pay much attention because he was joking, however many thank you very much and thank to Tom. :) :). I will try to fix it.



  • @Juan-Antonio as Tom said earlier, the problem with Windows XP is fixed in FOG Trunk. Can you try to upgrade? https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_to_trunk



  • @Wayne-Workman
    /thread hijack /offtopic /sorry.

    Don’t forget that if you ARE running windows at all then hyper-v is (for less than 20 guest servers assuming a 2 host cluster) a better option, you get TWO virtual licenses for each server license purchased. thus a “free” host per hyper-v instance. If you were to license 10 virtual MS server guests on 2 hosts using centos as a clustered host then you would need to purchase 20 server licences (and you cant use enterprise licences as you aren’t licensing the host in this case). If you were using a pair of server 2012R2 hosts and had 10 server guests then you only need to purchase 10 licences as each license is worth 2 thus each host has 5 licenses each thus 10 total clustered servers.

    And FWIW it is an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to license desktop windows in a virtual environment - long story short don’t do it. Normal licenses do NOT cover W7 being installed in a virtual environment you need specialist licences (VDA). Seems mad? Yes it is.



  • @Wayne-Workman said:

    @Juan-Antonio Have you ever seen these icons in any FOG build you’ve tried? This is what FOG Trunk looks like. It is the developmental version of fog. 1.2.0 is not fog trunk, 1.2.0 is (currently) the last stable release of fog.

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    That’s the version I have installed FOG

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    This is the error



  • @Tom-Elliott said:

    @Wayne-Workman I guess it was about XP, but mostly the Versions of Ubuntu! JAJAJAJAJA (lol)

    @Juan-Antonio, now that you know what lol “means”, now just look at the letters, and just think of it like this:

    http://i.imgur.com/9fWen05.png

    Sincerely sorry, I guess it’s joke, but do not understand.
    I try to pay more attention.



  • @Tom-Elliott Yeah I just saw that… 7? lol

    At work - our HVAC system for the entire school district runs on Fedora core 2… That’s 23 very large buildings spread across two large municipalities… fedora 2… lol

    Oh and, how about this?
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a16010/30-year-old-computer-runs-school-heat/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLERL4_SveI



  • @Wayne-Workman said:

    @Juan-Antonio Have you ever seen these icons in any FOG build you’ve tried? This is what FOG Trunk looks like. It is the developmental version of fog. 1.2.0 is not fog trunk, 1.2.0 is (currently) the last stable release of fog.

    0_1447893259019_upload-5ffd3b87-c7d4-4268-8036-bbe6b61ad668

    I must concur ver1.2.0 trunk 5417 is holding well for me with everything ive tried so far working properly


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    @Wayne-Workman I guess it was about XP, but mostly the Versions of Ubuntu! JAJAJAJAJA (lol)

    @Juan-Antonio, now that you know what lol “means”, now just look at the letters, and just think of it like this:

    http://i.imgur.com/9fWen05.png



  • @Juan-Antonio Have you ever seen these icons in any FOG build you’ve tried? This is what FOG Trunk looks like. It is the developmental version of fog. 1.2.0 is not fog trunk, 1.2.0 is (currently) the last stable release of fog.

    0_1447893259019_upload-5ffd3b87-c7d4-4268-8036-bbe6b61ad668



  • @Wayne-Workman Thank you.
    I did not master very well their language, hence the question, as for your question, I have already tested in a real environment with several XP machines the cloning and the result is the same, and that was the reason to return to the FOG 0.32 version for computers with XP.

    what is the meaning “lol”??

    lol=JAJAJAJAJA!!! ok entendido ciao



  • @Juan-Antonio said:

    Sorry; I do not understand this comment “” that turn Makes dinosaurs in the soil before lol “”

    He was lightheartedly making fun of XP being in use.

    Are you willing to try this with FOG Trunk in a test environment?



  • @Tom-Elliott; I made several tests with different machines with the same result, the hard drive mounting failure to try clone new computer , only with XP (VISTA never use it). Anyway I check it again and share the results.

    I’m using the FOG version 1.2.0 (latest version) on Ubuntu Server 10.04 and for teams XP’s The FOG version 0.32 on Ubuntu Desktop 8.04; for the error caused.

    I must explain that we still use XP on older machines, used to introduction to the informatic to children 3-6 old years.
    Let us replacing gradually, We are without money. :(

    Sorry; I do not understand this comment “” that turn Makes dinosaurs in the soil before lol “”



  • @Wayne-Workman you win lol, I’ll follow documentation and just do CLI :) because you are right, every time I’ve installed FOG I went straight to a terminal



  • @msimpson said:

    I am definitely more comfortable with Windows which is why I was tossing around the idea of just installing Win7 Pro x64, installing Virtualbox, and then create the VM for FOG on that to take snapshots

    CentOS 7 Hypervisor supports snapshots, it works, I’ve used it for FOG and for Server 2012.

    If performance really sucks, I’ll install on bare metal.

    SAS 12gig can easily keep up, Sata 6gig can’t really… There’s not a comparison really between server and consumer hardware. However FOG will work, it’ll just be really slow. I virtualized FOG in CentOS 7 hypervisor using an Optiplex 9020, when I imaged with it the HDD light was just solid lit and the speeds were not that great in comparison to FOG running in Hyper-V with SAS 12 gig drives, but the speeds probably was great given the setup and hardware.

    I will also look at CentOS as well, it will have to be GUI though.

    People at my work ask why I choose to not install with a GUI. I ask them to find FOG documentation that uses a GUI on the backend… there isn’t. The installer is CLI, all of our documentation for troubleshooting is CLI, the management of services documentation is CLI, adding drives and moving images around is all documented in CLI. And any help you get on the forums for back-end and troubleshooting will be commands you run in the CLI. Why? Because it’s too hard to create documentation for 10 different GUI versions. CLI provides more consistency across the flavors of Linux - and consistency is a good thing.

    If you choose to install a GUI, you will find yourself clicking a user name, logging in, and then you will find yourself opening the terminal.

    But I won’t knock anyone for this, if it makes you feel better and adopt Linux faster, then awesome.

    I might also add that many of the GUIs for Linux sorta suck and are really limited in what they can do (in comparison to what CLI can do, i.e. everything).

    I believe everyone will love it when it comes time to build/rebuild a PC.

    Everyone always does.



  • Sorry, thoughts are all over the place. Need to get some sleep, I will work on it some more tonight hopefully.

    We have multiple VLANs too… so it will work on our main VLAN for now until I can figure out the VLAN thing. We use Cisco switches… That is for future though, I just want to get it up and going on our main VLAN for now. Proof of concept type of deal I guess. I believe everyone will love it when it comes time to build/rebuild a PC.



  • @need2 I do agree with you though, Hyper-V 2012R2 has come a long way. For any new environment, if it were up to me, would be Hyper-V. We went with VMware in about 2009 a year after I started at my job. Recently upgraded the hosts to 5.5, pretty stable.

    I will just experiment and see what works the best, I’ll try virtualized in a type 2 hypervisor since I started to set it up last night. Got our standard win7 image on the Dell PC, will finish installing Virtualbox and creating the FOG VM.

    If performance really sucks, I’ll install on bare metal. I will also look at CentOS as well, it will have to be GUI though. Not only for myself, but for my coworkers as well. No one has much experience with Linux.


 

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