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    DrouillardQ
    last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 2:56 PM

    Hello everybody.

    Being actually on a training in a enterprise for my scholarship, I have for mission to make an server with Fog for creating and deploying some Windows ’ images.

    After some researches, I found that I need to use sysprep for a OS on Windows 7. So again after some researches ans thanks to this site ( I did the same file answer as him) I had finally making an image of my first PC and deploy it correcfully.

    After finishing thing my tutor ask me to image an R320 server By Dell running on Windows 7 and which is in RAID1. So thinking it was the same as a normal PC i did the same manipulation as before, my file answer in the repertory of sysprep and I run on a command line: sysprep /generalize /oobe /shutdown /unattend:unattend.xml. Then sysprep run itself and once finish close my windows session for shuting down the server.

    And there is my problem, when the session is closing, the server freeze and I must shutdown the server manually. And so, when i’m restarting the server, the system told me that he can’t finish the installation and I have to reboot. I managed to override this and when I’m restarting sysprep, the freezing problem rehappen.

    Can it be due to the fact that it is a RAID server and it is not compatible with sysprep ? Or it is a bad manipulation of mine ?

    Sorry if i’m not precise enough and for the gramatical mistake i’m french.

    Thanks for your answers

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      Wayne Workman
      last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 3:27 PM

      It’s not required to use sysprep to image with FOG.

      I’ve imaged probably 500 times with FOG now, and I’ve never used Sysprep.

      But, the problem is likely that FOG isn’t detecting the RAID 1 array properly… I don’t have any experience with that so I’ll ask a dev to take a look. @Developers

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        d4rk3
        last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 5:02 PM

        It is, however, highly recommended to Sysprep your images. Especially in any environment with more than a few stations.

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          d4rk3 @DrouillardQ
          last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 5:07 PM

          @DrouillardQ said:

          Hello everybody.

          Being actually on a training in a enterprise for my scholarship, I have for mission to make an server with Fog for creating and deploying some Windows ’ images.

          After some researches, I found that I need to use sysprep for a OS on Windows 7. So again after some researches ans thanks to this site ( I did the same file answer as him) I had finally making an image of my first PC and deploy it correcfully.

          After finishing thing my tutor ask me to image an R320 server By Dell running on Windows 7 and which is in RAID1. So thinking it was the same as a normal PC i did the same manipulation as before, my file answer in the repertory of sysprep and I run on a command line: sysprep /generalize /oobe /shutdown /unattend:unattend.xml. Then sysprep run itself and once finish close my windows session for shuting down the server.

          And there is my problem, when the session is closing, the server freeze and I must shutdown the server manually. And so, when i’m restarting the server, the system told me that he can’t finish the installation and I have to reboot. I managed to override this and when I’m restarting sysprep, the freezing problem rehappen.

          Can it be due to the fact that it is a RAID server and it is not compatible with sysprep ? Or it is a bad manipulation of mine ?

          Sorry if i’m not precise enough and for the gramatical mistake i’m french.

          Thanks for your answers

          And yes, it’s probably the RAID that’s causing Sysprep to freeze. Are you able to disable RAID, temporarily use AHCI or IDE, then Sysprep without it freezing?

          If so, just do that to upload it, then turn the RAID back on after it uploads. You will more than likely have to do this when deploying the image onto any additional RAID stations.

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            ch3i Moderator @d4rk3
            last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 7:51 PM

            @d4rk3 I manage 800 stations in two domains without using sysprep, only FOG client.
            It’ll be hard to disable raid in a server lol not sur you can emulate ahci/IDE.

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              Wayne Workman @ch3i
              last edited by Jun 19, 2015, 11:33 PM

              @ch3i said:

              @d4rk3 I manage 800 stations in two domains without using sysprep, only FOG client.
              It’ll be hard to disable raid in a server lol not sur you can emulate ahci/IDE.

              I manage 500 stations in one domain without sysprep. 😉
              That number will jump to 18,000 and 5 domains within three years… no sysprep then either.

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                d4rk3 @ch3i
                last edited by Jun 21, 2015, 2:01 PM

                @ch3i said:

                @d4rk3 I manage 800 stations in two domains without using sysprep, only FOG client.
                It’ll be hard to disable raid in a server lol not sur you can emulate ahci/IDE.

                You would have to do it in the BIOS on every station.

                Like I said, you don’t have to Sysprep. I manage 1000 stations in 3 buildings, every station Sysprepped. To each their own 🙂

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                  DrouillardQ
                  last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 8:03 AM

                  @d4rk3 said:

                  @DrouillardQ said:

                  Hello everybody.

                  Being actually on a training in a enterprise for my scholarship, I have for mission to make an server with Fog for creating and deploying some Windows ’ images.

                  After some researches, I found that I need to use sysprep for a OS on Windows 7. So again after some researches ans thanks to this site ( I did the same file answer as him) I had finally making an image of my first PC and deploy it correcfully.

                  After finishing thing my tutor ask me to image an R320 server By Dell running on Windows 7 and which is in RAID1. So thinking it was the same as a normal PC i did the same manipulation as before, my file answer in the repertory of sysprep and I run on a command line: sysprep /generalize /oobe /shutdown /unattend:unattend.xml. Then sysprep run itself and once finish close my windows session for shuting down the server.

                  And there is my problem, when the session is closing, the server freeze and I must shutdown the server manually. And so, when i’m restarting the server, the system told me that he can’t finish the installation and I have to reboot. I managed to override this and when I’m restarting sysprep, the freezing problem rehappen.

                  Can it be due to the fact that it is a RAID server and it is not compatible with sysprep ? Or it is a bad manipulation of mine ?

                  Sorry if i’m not precise enough and for the gramatical mistake i’m french.

                  Thanks for your answers

                  And yes, it’s probably the RAID that’s causing Sysprep to freeze. Are you able to disable RAID, temporarily use AHCI or IDE, then Sysprep without it freezing?

                  If so, just do that to upload it, then turn the RAID back on after it uploads. You will more than likely have to do this when deploying the image onto any additional RAID stations.

                  Thanks for your answers, unfortunaly I don’t have acces to the server anymore and I don’t think that I’ll have the chance to retry on a new server again.
                  My tutor came with the same idea as you, to disable RAID and turn it back after the upload, so I think it might be the solution.

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                    DrouillardQ @Wayne Workman
                    last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 8:21 AM

                    @Wayne-Workman

                    @Wayne-Workman said:

                    It’s not required to use sysprep to image with FOG.

                    I’ve imaged probably 500 times with FOG now, and I’ve never used Sysprep.

                    But, the problem is likely that FOG isn’t detecting the RAID 1 array properly… I don’t have any experience with that so I’ll ask a dev to take a look. @Developers

                    I don’t think that the problem is with FOG because I didn’t created a task before I use Sysprep, I was waiting that the server was shutdown to dit it.

                    But to imaging without Sysprep, are you only using Fog Client and Fogprep ? Because the few times when I was imaging without sysprep, I encouters some problems after deploying the image.

                    Tom ElliottT 1 Reply Last reply Jun 22, 2015, 8:26 AM Reply Quote 0
                    • Tom ElliottT
                      Tom Elliott @DrouillardQ
                      last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 8:26 AM

                      @DrouillardQ what kinds of problems? FOGPrep, in 0.32 and up, was not needed at all. It didn’t hurt but it is not needed. Ultimately, unless your planning to have dog manage the joining of domain, snapins, printers, and/or anything else the client is capable of, you don’t have to use the client either. It is a useful tool but it is not required.

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                      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                        DrouillardQ @Tom Elliott
                        last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 9:07 AM

                        @Tom-Elliott Well the few times I was imaging without sysprep, and then deploying this image, the host which receive the image was stuck in a reboot loop and it could’nt install the image I was sending

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                        • Tom ElliottT
                          Tom Elliott
                          last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 10:28 AM

                          Sysprep is a different beast from FOGPrep.

                          Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                            Wayne Workman @Tom Elliott
                            last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 12:15 PM

                            @Tom-Elliott said:

                            Ultimately, unless your planning to have dog manage the joining of domain, snapins, printers

                            lololol I was the dog at my old job. Dark days!

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                            ch3iC 1 Reply Last reply Jun 22, 2015, 12:35 PM Reply Quote 0
                            • ch3iC
                              ch3i Moderator @Wayne Workman
                              last edited by Jun 22, 2015, 12:35 PM

                              @Wayne-Workman said:

                              @Tom-Elliott said:

                              Ultimately, unless your planning to have dog manage the joining of domain, snapins, printers

                              lololol I was the dog at my old job. Dark days!

                              Wayne-Workman the FOG 2.0 Client lol

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