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    PXE Without Ethernet Ports?

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    • DragnousD
      Dragnous
      last edited by

      Hello all,

      Got a new issue that has come up and wanted to get some input from others.

      Issue:

      School purchased about 300+ new laptops that no longer have Ethernet Ports -_-

      I’ve been trying to research what my options are now.

      Previously I have been using FOG to deploy my images and would still like to do so with these.

      Is USB to Ethernet Plausible option? I have found that drivers or Bios support still required so what about a Pre-boot environment like windows PE or a linux boot.?

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      • Tom ElliottT
        Tom Elliott
        last edited by

        I believe, for those systems that don’t have LAN built in, there’s usually an option (extra accessory to purchase of course) that can be used to provide LAN and PXE booting capabilities.

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        • DragnousD
          Dragnous
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          [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 44055, member: 7271”]I believe, for those systems that don’t have LAN built in, there’s usually an option (extra accessory to purchase of course) that can be used to provide LAN and PXE booting capabilities.[/quote]
          Correct, Was thinking some sort of USB to Ethernet Adapter…

          We bought the Eeebook x205T’s from asus and they sell their own brand adapter. Was thinking this would work.

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            Sebastian Roth Moderator
            last edited by

            There are a lot of different USB to Ethernet adapters out there. But I am pretty sure that not all of them will work.

            There is a thing called ECM (Ethernet Control Model) which is one of several different protocols used by those adapters (see here for more information: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB[/url]).

            Check out this post: [url]http://www.johnwillis.com/2014/03/pxe-booting-using-usb-to-ethernet-dongle.html[/url]

            Are we talking about this ASUS brand adapter?? [url]https://www.asus.com/Tablet_Mobile_Accessories/USB_Ethernet_Cable/[/url]
            I found it very hard to find information about this!! Not sure if I’d buy it. I still don’t know which ethernet chip is used and if linux in gernal is happy with it… And it’s not gigabit ethernet, right? I highly recommend looking for other adapters.

            We’ve had several people here in the forums. Some got their USB thingys working. Maybe it’s time to add those to this list here too: [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingDevices[/url]

            EDIT: There is a long (still reading) and interesting thread about USB ethernet adapters in the ipxe forums. Seems a lot more complicated then I thought at first. As far as I could find out the chip used in the ASUS adapter is ASIX (maybe AX88772B). Start reading here: [url]http://forum.ipxe.org/showthread.php?tid=6151&pid=10612#pid10612[/url]

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            • DragnousD
              Dragnous
              last edited by

              [quote=“Uncle Frank, post: 44107, member: 28116”]There are a lot of different USB to Ethernet adapters out there. But I am pretty sure that not all of them will work.

              There is a thing called ECM (Ethernet Control Model) which is one of several different protocols used by those adapters (see here for more information: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB[/url]).

              Check out this post: [url]http://www.johnwillis.com/2014/03/pxe-booting-using-usb-to-ethernet-dongle.html[/url]

              Are we talking about this ASUS brand adapter?? [url]https://www.asus.com/Tablet_Mobile_Accessories/USB_Ethernet_Cable/[/url]
              I found it very hard to find information about this!! Not sure if I’d buy it. I still don’t know which ethernet chip is used and if linux in gernal is happy with it… And it’s not gigabit ethernet, right? I highly recommend looking for other adapters.

              We’ve had several people here in the forums. Some got their USB thingys working. Maybe it’s time to add those to this list here too: [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingDevices[/url]

              EDIT: There is a long (still reading) and interesting thread about USB ethernet adapters in the ipxe forums. Seems a lot more complicated then I thought at first. As far as I could find out the chip used in the ASUS adapter is ASIX (maybe AX88772B). Start reading here: [url]http://forum.ipxe.org/showthread.php?tid=6151&pid=10612#pid10612[/url][/quote]

              Thank You for the reply. This definitely seems to be new area for IT now hehe

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              • Wayne WorkmanW
                Wayne Workman
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                [quote=“Uncle Frank, post: 44107, member: 28116”]
                We’ve had several people here in the forums. Some got their USB thingys working. Maybe it’s time to add those to this list here too: [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingDevices[/url]
                [/quote]

                There’s absolutely every reason to do that.

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                  Sebastian Roth Moderator
                  last edited by

                  We are working on it… ASIX AX88772B should be able to work with iPXE when using undionly.kkpxe instead of undionly.kpxe… For more information see here: [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/hp-stream-11-pro.12330[/url]

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                    Sebastian Roth Moderator
                    last edited by

                    And here: [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/fog-pxe-boot-with-usb-to-ethernet-adapter.10352/page-3#post-40799[/url]

                    Please confirm if you can get it up and running… thanks!

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                      Eric Parrish
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                      Funny you mentioned that, just had my first dell laptop come across without Ethernet… Talk about cheap…

                      Anyway, I have a few HP 3005pr USB 3.0 Port Replicators that use Ethernet over USB.

                      Not sure if it will work, but I will give it a go and see if it’s an option ?

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                      • Wayne WorkmanW
                        Wayne Workman
                        last edited by

                        Does WDS work over WiFi ?

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                        • Wayne WorkmanW
                          Wayne Workman
                          last edited by

                          There are definitely challenges on the horizon for FOG. 😐

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