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Can FOG replace my urbackup Server ?

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    fpausp
    last edited by Nov 21, 2017, 9:24 PM

    Hi, I am an absolute beginner… I just would like to know if FOG can replace my urbackup Server ?

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      george1421 Moderator @fpausp
      last edited by george1421 Mar 30, 2018, 10:01 AM Mar 30, 2018, 3:53 PM

      @fpausp The description field is required if you want the menu item to show up in the menu.

      As long as

      kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/vmlinuz
      initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/initrd.img
      

      Files are located in /tftpboot/os/urbackup/ it should work once you add in the Menu title (description)

      @Developers @UIDevelopers That field name (Description) probably needs to be change to “Menu Title” or something to show that its a mandatory field.

      Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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        Sebastian Roth Moderator
        last edited by Nov 21, 2017, 9:41 PM

        @fpausp said in Can FOG replace my urbackup Server ?:

        urbackup

        This seems to be a file based backup/restore solution (just reading the specs, have never used this myself). FOG doesn’t do file based operations but rather backups and restores full disks and partitions. So FOG is a very different thing than UrBackup from my point of view.

        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

        Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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          Wayne Workman @fpausp
          last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 12:59 AM

          @fpausp said in Can FOG replace my urbackup Server ?:

          I just would like to know if FOG can replace my urbackup Server ?

          No. One’s a utility for backing up files, and the other’s for deploying operating systems. Two very different things.

          Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
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            fpausp
            last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 12:12 PM

            OK gentleman, thanks a lot for your answers. The next thing, I have to solve, is to boot from some linux live-cd’s.

            I use this option: “dhcp-boot=undionly.kpxe,192.168.xxx.xxx” on my existing dhcp-server. Which files must I edit on FOG to add some live-cd’s ?

            A Step-by-Step HowTo would be great…

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              fpausp
              last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 12:42 PM

              I think, I got it… - link text

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                george1421 Moderator @fpausp
                last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 12:44 PM

                @fpausp Also this tutorial: https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/10944/using-fog-to-pxe-boot-into-your-favorite-installer-images

                If you come across other live cds that you have a solution for, please let me know and I will add it added to that thread.

                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                  fpausp
                  last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 6:06 PM

                  OK, I need a few days… I’ll give you a feedback…

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                    fpausp
                    last edited by fpausp Nov 23, 2017, 4:27 AM Nov 23, 2017, 10:25 AM

                    I was able to do it with Fedora 27 LiveCD. I can boot the CD, but I cannot login.
                    Do you know the credentials ?

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                    Here is what I have done…

                    Fedora 27 Workstation

                    First we’ll create the required directories:

                    mkdir /images/os/fedora
                    mkdir /images/os/fedora/W27
                    mkdir /tftpboot/os/fedora
                    mkdir /tftpboot/os/fedora/W27

                    Mount the Fedora 27 ISO:

                    mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-27-1.6.iso /mnt/loop

                    Copy the files:

                    cp -R /mnt/loop/* /images/os/fedora/W27
                    umount /mnt/loop

                    Copy the pxe boot kernel and intfs to the tftpboot directory:

                    cp /images/os/fedora/W27/isolinux/vmlinuz /tftpboot/os/fedora/W27
                    cp /images/os/fedora/W27/isolinux/initrd.img /tftpboot/os/fedora/W27

                    Setup a new FOG iPXE boot menu entry:

                    In the fog WebGUI go to FOG Configuration->iPXE New Menu Entry
                    Set the following fields

                    Menu Item: os.FedoraW27
                    Description: Fedora Workstation v27
                    Parameters:
                    kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/fedora/W27/vmlinuz
                    initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/fedora/W27/initrd.img
                    imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img root=live:nfs://${fog-ip}/images/os/fedora/W27/LiveOS/squashfs.img ip=dhcp repo=nfs://${fog-ip}/images/os/fedora/W27 splash quiet
                    boot || goto MENU
                    Menu Show with: All Hosts

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                      fpausp
                      last edited by fpausp Nov 23, 2017, 1:27 PM Nov 23, 2017, 2:37 PM

                      Kali Live 2017.3 - v0.1

                      create the required directories:

                      mkdir -p /iso /mnt/loop /tftpboot/os/kali/2017.3/live/

                      rsync or wget kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso to /iso

                      rsync -avzr --progress /<your-path>/kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso /iso/

                      mount the ISO:

                      mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso/kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso /mnt/loop

                      copy the files into your tftpboot-path:

                      rsync -avzr --progress /mnt/loop/live/{initrd.img,vmlinuz,filesystem.squashfs} /tftpboot/os/kali/2017.3/live/

                      umount iso:

                      umount /mnt/loop

                      Setup a new FOG iPXE boot menu entry:

                      In the fog WebGUI go to FOG Configuration->iPXE New Menu Entry
                      Set the following fields

                      Menu Item: os.Kali.live.2017.3
                      Description: Kali Live 2017.3
                      Parameters:
                      kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/vmlinuz
                      initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/initrd.img
                      imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img append boot=live components fetch=tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/filesystem.squashfs
                      boot || goto MENU
                      Menu Show with: All Hosts

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                        george1421 Moderator @fpausp
                        last edited by george1421 Nov 23, 2017, 9:00 AM Nov 23, 2017, 2:58 PM

                        @fpausp Very nice. Thank you for the efforts put into documenting this.

                        I only have one comment, and its only a comment on iPXE and protocols.

                        tftp works very well that is why its widely accepted method of pxe booting and some kernels only support loading the boot strap kernel by tftp. The down side to tftp is that its not a very fast communication protocol and some PXE Roms are broken when it comes to cross subnet routing. That is one of the reasons why the FOG developers opted to use iPXE as replacement boot ROM.

                        iPXE supports booting via many different protocols(tftp, http, https, nfs, sanboot, iscsi, etc). FOG uses a mixture of tftp and http for FOS kernel booting. HTTP was primarily used because its a much faster, scalable, and routable protocol than with standard tftp.

                        In your example for kali live. You could have just as easily use http or nfs to boot your kali live image. Using http protocol could work, but I’ve seen several distributions where it breaks because of the FOG API and redirection created in apache to make it work.

                        kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/vmlinuz
                        initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/initrd.img
                        imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img append boot=live components fetch=tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/filesystem.squashfs
                        

                        Could be restated as this using the http protocol

                        kernel http://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/vmlinuz
                        initrd http://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/initrd.img
                        imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img append boot=live components fetch=http://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/filesystem.squashfs
                        

                        The risk above is on the imgargs line with the fetch entry. The kernel has to support what ever protocol you use here. Its iPXE responsiblity to deliver kernel and initrd to the target computer. Once that is done the target kernel takes over and is responsible for delivering anything on the imgarg line. BUT, the advantages is that http is light speed faster than tftp with kernel load times. That is why FOG uses http to deliver FOS to the target computers.

                        You could have also rewritten this using the nfs protocol, for additional speed improvements over tftp.

                        kernel nfs://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/vmlinuz
                        initrd nfs://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/initrd.img
                        imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img append boot=live components fetch=nfs://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/live/filesystem.squashfs
                        

                        Now again the risk is the fetch command, if the kernel doesn’t support nfs then booting will break.

                        For those who might like to try and experiment with booting different protocols here is the fog server path associated with the protocol.

                        tftp://${fog-ip}/os == /tftpboot/os
                        http://${fog-ip}/os == /var/www/html/os
                        nfs://${fog-ip}/os == /images/os

                        You could use sanboot, AoE, or iscsi boot but that would require you to create a block level device (i.e. hard drive) to host your boot images.

                        When selecting the protocol you have to be mindful of where that server services calls its home, root, or base directory.

                        The point is in the end use the right protocol for the task you are trying to achieve.

                        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                          fpausp
                          last edited by fpausp Nov 23, 2017, 9:15 AM Nov 23, 2017, 3:10 PM

                          @george1421
                          OK, thanks for your comments… I will study it tomorrow, no more time this day… I tried also the installer-version of kali, what I will show you in the next reply…

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                            fpausp
                            last edited by fpausp Nov 23, 2017, 1:28 PM Nov 23, 2017, 3:12 PM

                            Kali Install 2017.3 - v.01

                            create the required directories:

                            mkdir -p /images/os/kali/2017.3/install/ /tftpboot/os/kali/2017.3/install/ /tmp/netboot/ /mnt/loop/

                            rsync or wget kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso to /iso

                            rsync -avzr --progress /<your-path>/kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso /iso/

                            Mount the Kali ISO:

                            mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso/kali-linux-2017.3-amd64.iso /mnt/loop

                            We need to download the netboot kernel:

                            cd /tmp/netboot
                            wget http://repo.kali.org/kali/dists/kali-rolling/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz

                            extract tarball:

                            tar -zxf netboot.tar.gz

                            Copy the files:

                            rsync -avzr --progress /mnt/loop/* /images/os/kali/2017.3/install
                            rsync -avzr --progress /tmp/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/{linux,initrd.gz} /tftpboot/os/kali/2017.3/install

                            adjust and umount:

                            cd /tmp
                            rm -rf ./netboot
                            umount /mnt/loop

                            Setup a new FOG iPXE boot menu entry:

                            In the fog WebGUI go to FOG Configuration->iPXE New Menu Entry
                            Set the following fields

                            Menu Item: os.Kali.install.2017.3
                            Description: Kali Install 2017.3
                            Parameters:
                            kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/install/linux
                            initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/kali/2017.3/install/initrd.gz
                            imgargs linux initrd=initrd.gz root=/dev/nfs netboot=nfs nfsroot=${fog-ip}:/images/os/kali/2017.3/install ip=dhcp rw language=de country=AT keymap=de hostname=kali domain=test.lan
                            boot || goto MENU
                            Menu Show with: All Hosts

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                              fpausp
                              last edited by fpausp Mar 30, 2018, 5:37 AM Mar 30, 2018, 11:12 AM

                              Hi, I use 1.5.0 now and made an iPXE Menu entry…
                              After I boot, the entry is not visible, but I can boot, its just ugly to see nothing :).

                              How can I fix that ?

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                                george1421 Moderator @fpausp
                                last edited by Mar 30, 2018, 11:41 AM

                                @fpausp Please post a screen shot of the fog configuration page used to create the iPXE menu. Also please post the output of this command. Insert the fog server IP in the proper spot and insert it into a browser of your choice.
                                http://<fog_server_ip>/fog/service/ipxe/boot.php?mac=00:00:00:00:00:00

                                This url will display the content of the iPXE menu.

                                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                  fpausp
                                  last edited by Mar 30, 2018, 3:49 PM

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                                  #!ipxe
                                  set fog-ip <my-fog-ip>
                                  set fog-webroot fog
                                  set boot-url http://${fog-ip}/${fog-webroot}
                                  cpuid --ext 29 && set arch x86_64 || set arch i386
                                  goto get_console
                                  :console_set
                                  colour --rgb 0x00567a 1 ||
                                  colour --rgb 0x00567a 2 ||
                                  colour --rgb 0x00567a 4 ||
                                  cpair --foreground 7 --background 2 2 ||
                                  goto MENU
                                  :alt_console
                                  cpair --background 0 1 ||
                                  cpair --background 1 2 ||
                                  goto MENU
                                  :get_console
                                  console --picture http://<my-fog-ip>/fog/service/ipxe/bg.png --left 100 --right 80 && goto console_set || goto alt_console
                                  :MENU
                                  menu
                                  colour --rgb 0xff0000 0 ||
                                  cpair --foreground 1 1 ||
                                  cpair --foreground 0 3 ||
                                  cpair --foreground 4 4 ||
                                  item --gap Host is NOT registered!
                                  item --gap -- -------------------------------------
                                  item fog.local Boot from hard disk
                                  item fog.memtest Run Memtest86+
                                  item fog.reginput Perform Full Host Registration and Inventory
                                  item fog.reg Quick Registration and Inventory
                                  item fog.deployimage Deploy Image
                                  item fog.multijoin Join Multicast Session
                                  item fog.sysinfo Client System Information (Compatibility)
                                  item os.UrBackup.RestoreCD
                                  choose --default fog.local --timeout 3000 target && goto ${target}
                                  :fog.local
                                  sanboot --no-describe --drive 0x80 || goto MENU
                                  :fog.memtest
                                  kernel memdisk initrd=memtest.bin iso raw
                                  initrd memtest.bin
                                  boot || goto MENU
                                  :fog.reginput
                                  kernel bzImage32 loglevel=4 initrd=init_32.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=127000 web=http://<my-fog-ip>/fog/ consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 storage=<my-fog-ip>:/images/ storageip=<my-fog-ip> loglevel=4 mode=manreg
                                  imgfetch init_32.xz
                                  boot || goto MENU
                                  :fog.reg
                                  kernel bzImage32 loglevel=4 initrd=init_32.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=127000 web=http://<my-fog-ip>/fog/ consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 storage=<my-fog-ip>:/images/ storageip=<my-fog-ip> loglevel=4 mode=autoreg
                                  imgfetch init_32.xz
                                  boot || goto MENU
                                  :fog.deployimage
                                  login
                                  params
                                  param mac0 ${net0/mac}
                                  param arch ${arch}
                                  param username ${username}
                                  param password ${password}
                                  param qihost 1
                                  isset ${net1/mac} && param mac1 ${net1/mac} || goto bootme
                                  isset ${net2/mac} && param mac2 ${net2/mac} || goto bootme
                                  param sysuuid ${uuid}
                                  :fog.multijoin
                                  login
                                  params
                                  param mac0 ${net0/mac}
                                  param arch ${arch}
                                  param username ${username}
                                  param password ${password}
                                  param sessionJoin 1
                                  isset ${net1/mac} && param mac1 ${net1/mac} || goto bootme
                                  isset ${net2/mac} && param mac2 ${net2/mac} || goto bootme
                                  param sysuuid ${uuid}
                                  :fog.sysinfo
                                  kernel bzImage32 loglevel=4 initrd=init_32.xz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=127000 web=http://<my-fog-ip>/fog/ consoleblank=0 rootfstype=ext4 storage=<my-fog-ip>:/images/ storageip=<my-fog-ip> loglevel=4 mode=sysinfo
                                  imgfetch init_32.xz
                                  boot || goto MENU
                                  :os.UrBackup.RestoreCD
                                  kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/vmlinuz
                                  initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/initrd.img
                                  imgargs vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img append boot=live config username=urbackup fetch=tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/filesystem.squashfs
                                  boot || goto MENU
                                  param sysuuid ${uuid}
                                  :bootme
                                  chain -ar http://<my-fog-ip>/fog/service/ipxe/boot.php##params ||
                                  goto MENU
                                  autoboot
                                  
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                                    george1421 Moderator @fpausp
                                    last edited by george1421 Mar 30, 2018, 10:01 AM Mar 30, 2018, 3:53 PM

                                    @fpausp The description field is required if you want the menu item to show up in the menu.

                                    As long as

                                    kernel tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/vmlinuz
                                    initrd tftp://${fog-ip}/os/urbackup/initrd.img
                                    

                                    Files are located in /tftpboot/os/urbackup/ it should work once you add in the Menu title (description)

                                    @Developers @UIDevelopers That field name (Description) probably needs to be change to “Menu Title” or something to show that its a mandatory field.

                                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                      fpausp
                                      last edited by Mar 30, 2018, 3:59 PM

                                      Thank you very much, Gentlemen !

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                                        fpausp
                                        last edited by fpausp Apr 2, 2018, 7:04 AM Apr 2, 2018, 12:58 PM

                                        I think it is a BUG, I have to do it twice befor it is permanent saved.

                                        Another Question:
                                        Howto sort iPXE Menu Item Settings ?

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