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Dell 7040 NVMe SSD Boot Issue

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    chrisdecker
    last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 6:55 PM

    We are experiencing an issue with Dell Optiplex 7040s not booting to FOG. I’ve upgraded to the latest version of Trunk and also updated to newest boot kernel, but still no luck. It goes so quickly that it’s hard to get an error message, but I’ve attached a screenshot from a video where it gets an IP, but then stops. Other models of Optiplex’s still work (780s, 790s, 7010s). Specs are as follows:

    Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
    Intel i7-6700 3.4 GHz
    8GB DDR4 RAM
    M.2 256GB PCIe NVMe Class 40 SSD
    AMD Radeon R6 350X

    Thank you in advance for your assistance.0_1485283811456_Screen Shot 2017-01-24 at 1.46.58 PM.png 0_1485283934778_Screen Shot 2017-01-24 at 1.51.48 PM.png

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      THEMCV
      last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 7:05 PM

      I don’t have an answer, but OptiPlex 7040s are the most difficult machines from Dell to work with I’ve ever experienced.

      I had issues with FOG too with them. And booting. And generally working.

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        Tom Elliott
        last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 7:26 PM

        THese are trying to boot efi. To boot with efi based setups you need to be presenting the systems with ipxe.efi.

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          george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
          last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 7:31 PM

          @Tom-Elliott Also ensure that secure boot is disabled on these.

          I can grab one of the 7040s from the build up area if we need to test them. We don’t boot uefi here with them, but I can flip it into uefi mode to test.

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            chrisdecker @Tom Elliott
            last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 8:43 PM

            @Tom-Elliott Thank you. Please forgive my ignorance. I’m assuming I change that somewhere in the TFTP Server Settings, but which specific line do I change?

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              george1421 Moderator @chrisdecker
              last edited by Jan 24, 2017, 8:59 PM

              @chrisdecker You need to make the modification on your dhcp server. You need to change the dhcp option 67 {boot-file} to ipxe.efi

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                Wayne Workman @chrisdecker
                last edited by Wayne Workman Jan 24, 2017, 7:27 PM Jan 25, 2017, 1:27 AM

                @chrisdecker You’ll also find this article helpful, as it’s silly to flip/flop DHCP settings manually all day long every day: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=BIOS_and_UEFI_Co-Existence

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                  chrisdecker @george1421
                  last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:17 PM

                  @george1421 Thank you! That worked. Now FOG is not recognizing the hard drive. Any ideas?![0_1485350206829_20170125_081424.jpg](Uploading 100%)

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                    george1421 Moderator @chrisdecker
                    last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:18 PM

                    @chrisdecker what version of fog are you running? FOG 1.3.x surely detects nvme drives without issue.

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                      chrisdecker
                      last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:19 PM

                      Screenshot 0_1485350358336_fogerror.jpg

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                        chrisdecker
                        last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:21 PM

                        Running FOG 1.3.4-RC-2 with Kernel bzImage 4.9.4

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                          george1421 Moderator @chrisdecker
                          last edited by george1421 Jan 25, 2017, 7:23 AM Jan 25, 2017, 1:22 PM

                          @chrisdecker Welp, it sure does appear that FOG can’t see the disk.

                          Will you do a debug capture or deploy this time? When you schedule the capture or deploy be sure to tick the debug checkbox. Then pxe boot the target computer. After a few screen shots of commands it should drop you to a linux command prompt on the target computer. Then key in lsblk and post the results here.

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                            Tom Elliott
                            last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:28 PM

                            I might also suggest seeing if the NVMe SSD Disk is setup for Raid or AHCI/SATA. From what I can see, it’s probably being presented in RAID right now.

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                              chrisdecker @Tom Elliott
                              last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:34 PM

                              @Tom-Elliott @george1421 RAID was on. 😉

                              Switched to AHCI and I can now register the computer.

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                                jburleson @chrisdecker
                                last edited by jburleson Jan 25, 2017, 7:35 AM Jan 25, 2017, 1:35 PM

                                @chrisdecker

                                I have successfully deployed an image to the Optiplex 7040 with the same SSD as yours using UEFI (Secure Boot Disabled).

                                FOG Information:
                                Running Version 1.3.1-RC-1
                                SVN Revision: 6052
                                Kernel Version: bzImage Version: 4.9.0

                                Host EFI Exit Type: Refined_EFI
                                PXE File: ipxe7156.efi

                                Image: Windows 10

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                                  george1421 Moderator @chrisdecker
                                  last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:39 PM

                                  @chrisdecker said in Dell 7040 NVMe SSD Boot Issue:

                                  @Tom-Elliott @george1421 RAID was on. 😉

                                  Switched to AHCI and I can now register the computer.

                                  It would still be interesting to know what lsblk says with raid mode on (Dell default).

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                                    george1421 Moderator @jburleson
                                    last edited by george1421 Jan 25, 2017, 7:41 AM Jan 25, 2017, 1:40 PM

                                    @jburleson said in Dell 7040 NVMe SSD Boot Issue:

                                    @chrisdecker

                                    Host EFI Exit Type: Refined_EFI
                                    PXE File: ipxe7156.efi

                                    I find this interesting. Did ipxe7156.efi work for raid mode where ipxe.efi did not?

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                                      chrisdecker @george1421
                                      last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:41 PM

                                      @george1421 I’m using ipxe.efi. Haven’t tried anything else at this point.

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                                        Tom Elliott @chrisdecker
                                        last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:46 PM

                                        @chrisdecker I’m going to solve the thread as we know Changing the HDD presentation type from RAID to AHCI will allow you to use the system.

                                        I agree with @george1421 however and would like to see what lsblk sees when the disk is in RAID mode.

                                        That said, I suspect it doesn’t find anything because the RAID utilities aren’t being called to even try to scan anything. That or the way the RAID is presented to the FOS System isn’t even recognized (could be driver based I suppose).

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                                        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                          george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
                                          last edited by Jan 25, 2017, 1:56 PM

                                          @Tom-Elliott IMO: The concern I have is that raid-on is the default for almost all Dell systems uefi or bios. So for every 7040 in uefi mode, the OP or IT tech will need to change the disk support method. This can be automated with Dell’s CCTK its just a pain and will continue to cause FOG support calls.

                                          I’ll grab a 7040 from our test lab and see if I can find a consistent answer.

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