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Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related

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    Mastriani @george1421
    last edited by Mastriani Nov 18, 2016, 11:59 AM Nov 18, 2016, 3:46 PM

    @george1421 said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

    @Mastriani Well the 755 to 390s are not the most powerful systems but they should not take 30 minutes to image either.

    When you run you test, please try to get an accurate time to deploy and the actual image size. That way we can calculate the true throughput. The number from part clone is a bit deceiving.

    The compression value is a scale from 0 (no compression) to 9 (maximum compression). That also means:
    0 = maximum file size on the FOG server and over the network but images faster since the client doesn’t need to decompress the image.
    9 = smaller file size on the FOG server and network but images slower since the client must squeeze all of the air possible out of the image to capture and deploy it.

    5 is a middle of the road between larger file and higher cpu requirements on the client.

    FOG server and client machine on same switch. Image capture started at 10:28 a.m. EDT
    Dell OptiPlex 780
    Dual Core
    4Gb PC3 DDR RAM
    GbE Broadcom NIC, 1 Gb/s as per device manager
    34.3 Gb image
    Started: 2.8 Gb/s, 10 mins. into capture, speed degraded to 1 Gb/s, 11%, if the partclone measurement is believable.
    20 mins, 620Mb/s, 18%
    30 mins, 450Mb/s, 39%
    40 mins, 395Mb/s, 49%
    50 mins, 325Mb/s, 57%
    60 mins, 315Mb/s, 61%
    70 mins, 295Mb/s, 65%
    80 mins, 272Mb/s, 69%
    90 mins, 261Mb/s, 72%
    100 mins, 250Mb/s, 77%
    110 mins, 237Mb/s, 81%
    120 mins, 223Mb/s, 88%
    130 mins, 215Mb/s, 93%
    140 mins, 222Mb/s, 97%
    148 mins, 209Mb/s, 100%
    Total time: 2 hr, 31 mins, 34.3 Gbs transferred, 12:59 p.m. EDT

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      Mastriani @Wayne Workman
      last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 3:49 PM

      @Wayne-Workman said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

      I’ll also be looking at some of the same stuff that George already touched on. And I’ll of course be using the same “near to far” thing he was talking about, this is just how to properly troubleshoot.

      iperf and ethtool installed on FOG server, temporary interruption for educator request, will setup the laptop on the same switch with live disc, shortly.

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        Wayne Workman @Mastriani
        last edited by Wayne Workman Nov 18, 2016, 10:09 AM Nov 18, 2016, 4:05 PM

        @Mastriani When you’re ready, send me an IM. Forums posts are too slow for this sort of help.

        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
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          Mastriani @Wayne Workman
          last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 4:09 PM

          @Wayne-Workman said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

          @Mastriani When you’re ready, send me an IM. The forums are too slow for this sort of help.

          FOG server is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, match version on disc, or not relevant?

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            Wayne Workman @Mastriani
            last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 4:10 PM

            @Mastriani use 16.04 for the live disk, there’s no reason not to.

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              Mastriani @Tom Elliott
              last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 4:11 PM

              @Tom-Elliott said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

              @Mastriani The UDP issues might have come up due to 0.29. The NFS mount was not using the TCP proto (of which it does now).

              Mr. Elliott,

              Does FOG use jumbo frames? Fixed rate, negotiated, or not relevant?

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                Tom Elliott @Mastriani
                last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 4:34 PM

                @Mastriani I’m fairly sure (unless you set your nic’s up for jumbo frames) it’s irrelevant.

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                  Quazz Moderator
                  last edited by Nov 18, 2016, 4:39 PM

                  I do recall something about negotiated being optimal, but nothing beyond that.

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                    Wayne Workman
                    last edited by Nov 21, 2016, 7:21 PM

                    This was due to a known issue with the onboard NIC chipset the server had.

                    @Mastriani could you post the chipset model please? I forgot what it was.

                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
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                      Mastriani @Wayne Workman
                      last edited by Mastriani Dec 13, 2016, 1:23 PM Dec 13, 2016, 7:22 PM

                      @Wayne-Workman said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

                      This was due to a known issue with the onboard NIC chipset the server had.

                      @Mastriani could you post the chipset model please? I forgot what it was.

                      Both of the Broadcom NIC’s used in Dell servers are an issue, what is now known thanks to your workup on my server Mr. Workman.

                      Broadcom® NetXtreme™ 5721 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet NIC, is what is in mine.

                      Hands down, Fog, it’s development team and support professionals, are inarguably in a class of their own. My sincerest thanks and professional appreciation to all, Mr. Elliott, and a note of exceptional knowledge and top class support and effort to Mr. Workman.

                      There is in my estimation, none better. Were it that others in the IT community would take lessons from your organization and team. Well done.

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                        Wayne Workman @Mastriani
                        last edited by Dec 13, 2016, 7:25 PM

                        @Mastriani So, you put in another NIC, configured it, disabled the others, and the issue is solved?

                        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!
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                          Mastriani @Wayne Workman
                          last edited by Dec 13, 2016, 7:28 PM

                          @Wayne-Workman said in Using dumb switch to troubleshoot imaging, network related:

                          @Mastriani So, you put in another NIC, configured it, disabled the others, and the issue is solved?

                          Currently capturing a 40Gb image, total time less than 17 mins.

                          Yesterday, updated 2 labs of 30 machines each, in 2:45:00, from start to finish.

                          The Trunk version is smooth, intuitively easy, and scorching fast. All is well for a small rural district in SE Tennessee!

                          Well, except that it is SE Tennessee.

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