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  • Z
    zpoling
    last edited by zpoling Jun 7, 2016, 7:13 AM Jun 7, 2016, 1:11 PM

    As the title says, our computers are joining our domain before the hostname is changed. I assume that’s what’s happening because the default Windows 10 names of “DESKTOP-XXXXXX” are appearing in mass under our default computers OU. After the Fogservice is done doing its stuff and correctly renames the machine, the previous names (DESKTOP-XXXXXX) are shown as disabled in the OU, while the proper hostname appears.

    Is there a way to set the order of how the Fogservice performs its tasks?

    EDIT: This issue only happens sometimes. I just imaged four machines, all of which joined the domain, but only two showed with the DESKTOP- hostnames.

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      Wayne Workman
      last edited by Aug 10, 2016, 1:56 AM

      The OP’s problem can likely be solved by following instructions in the wiki for using the new fog client with sysprep (link below), additionally FOG Client 0.11.5 has additional code to detect if sys-prep stuff is happening now, so that would help too. The latest FOG Client comes with the latest FOG, so if you don’t have 0.11.5, you need to upgrade your fog servers to the latest. Marking this thread as solved.
      https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=FOG_Client#FOG_Client_with_Sysprep

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        Quazz Moderator
        last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 1:43 PM

        FOG Trunk has early hostname changer I believe, not sure if that’s what you’re looking for though.

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          zpoling
          last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 1:47 PM

          Alrighty, I’ll enable that and see if it resolves the issue.

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            george1421 Moderator
            last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 1:48 PM

            I would have to ask the question what is attaching the workstation to the domain? Do you have this set in your unattend.xml file to connect to the domain or are you letting FOG do everything?

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              zpoling @george1421
              last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 1:49 PM

              @george1421 Fog is doing all of the work as far as Active Directory.

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                george1421 Moderator @zpoling
                last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 1:55 PM

                @zpoling OK then you want to set the early hostname change as Quazz mentioned. If your system names are still coming out the windows default then you may need to look into your unattend,xml file.

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                  Wayne Workman
                  last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 2:25 PM

                  @joe-schmitt should domain joining be happening before a pending name change is completed?

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                    zpoling @Quazz
                    last edited by Jun 7, 2016, 3:28 PM

                    @Quazz Enabling that feature did not fix this issue.

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                      Wayne Workman @zpoling
                      last edited by Wayne Workman Jun 7, 2016, 5:18 PM Jun 7, 2016, 11:15 PM

                      @zpoling Doing more thinking on this issue, and to more completely explain what I think might be happening…

                      This line in your unattend.xml file would change the hostname.
                      <ComputerName>*</ComputerName>

                      The early hostname changer works, so too does the hostname changing of the client. Another thing to remember is the fog client is fast, very fast.

                      Tying all these pieces together, if the Early Hostname Changer sets the correct name, that sysprep line will un-do that work, every time. Also, if the fog client changes the name before the sysprep post-deployment process gets to that line, then too is the fog client’s work undone.

                      There’s a way around this. Disable the fog service on your reference image, and place a setupcomplete.cmd file to re-enable the service and start it at the very end of the post-sysprep process.

                      Details on this are in the wiki, at the bottom of the fog client article here:
                      https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=FOG_Client

                      This issue is consistent with what you were saying about the issue happening sometimes. If the hardware is slow, the issue might be more prevalent. Faster hardware may not be affected as often. Either way, you’re playing with fire when you don’t disable the fog service on the reference image before capture, as outlined in the wiki.

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                        zpoling @Wayne Workman
                        last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 1:20 PM

                        @Wayne-Workman The fog service is disabled on startup until the setupcomplete.cmd is called for. That was actually my thread where you created the Wiki post about it 😉

                        I just checked through our unattend file and I cannot find <ComputerName>*</ComputerName>.

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                          Quazz Moderator
                          last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 1:24 PM

                          As far as I know <ComputerName> doesn’t work in unattend on Windows 10 anwyay.

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                            Wayne Workman @zpoling
                            last edited by Wayne Workman Jun 8, 2016, 8:15 AM Jun 8, 2016, 2:14 PM

                            @zpoling something has to be causing the naming issue. Is it possible that two hosts in host management exist for the computers? Like one for wifi mac and one for Lan mac? If you search fog for some of those names showing in AD, what are the results?

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                              zpoling @Wayne Workman
                              last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 2:18 PM

                              @Wayne-Workman Non of them appear in Fog with the default name or MAC, and they never have. We have a small scale setup with Fog, so it’s easy to keep track of that sort of thing.

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                                Wayne Workman @zpoling
                                last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 2:26 PM

                                @zpoling can you image one of the problem computers and after all reboots and joining is done, get the log for us from the computer?

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                                  zpoling @Wayne Workman
                                  last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 3:16 PM

                                  @Wayne-Workman

                                  Here’s all the hostname data from the log.

                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM HostnameChanger Removing host from active directory
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM HostnameChanger The machine is not currently joined to a domain, code =  2692
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM HostnameChanger Renaming host to DIESEL-1
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "FOG needs to rename your computer" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:36 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host joined to Active Directory, restart required" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM HostnameChanger Removing host from active directory
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host left active directory, restart needed" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM HostnameChanger Renaming host to DIESEL-1
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "FOG needs to rename your computer" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:39 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host joined to Active Directory, restart required" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM HostnameChanger Removing host from active directory
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host left active directory, restart needed" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM HostnameChanger Renaming host to DIESEL-1
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "FOG needs to rename your computer" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:41 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host joined to Active Directory, restart required" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM HostnameChanger Removing host from active directory
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host left active directory, restart needed" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM HostnameChanger Renaming host to DIESEL-1
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "FOG needs to rename your computer" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:44 AM HostnameChanger Unknown Return Code:  1364
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:46 AM HostnameChanger Hostname is correct
                                   6/8/2016 10:47 AM HostnameChanger Success, code =  0
                                   6/8/2016 10:47 AM Power Creating shutdown request
                                   6/8/2016 10:47 AM Power Parameters: /r /c "Host joined to Active Directory, restart required" /t 0
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM Client-Info Client Version: 0.10.6
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM Client-Info Client OS:      Windows
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM Client-Info Server Version: 7541
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM Middleware::Response Success
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM HostnameChanger Checking Hostname
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM HostnameChanger Hostname is correct
                                   6/8/2016 10:49 AM HostnameChanger Host is already joined to target domain
                                  

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                                  W 1 Reply Last reply Jun 8, 2016, 3:19 PM Reply Quote 0
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                                    Wayne Workman @zpoling
                                    last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 3:19 PM

                                    @zpoling is it possible that you have group policy pushing out an older client? On this computer you just imaged, check if there is just one fog client installed, and if there is just one fog service in services.

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                                      zpoling @Wayne Workman
                                      last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 3:21 PM

                                      @Wayne-Workman We never push out the client. There is only one installed, as well as only one service running.

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                                        Wayne Workman @zpoling
                                        last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 3:25 PM

                                        @zpoling we need @joe-schmitt to look at it and comment. Without hands on the problem, I am unsure where to go from here.

                                        What is unique about the problem hosts? What is different?

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                                          george1421 Moderator @Quazz
                                          last edited by george1421 Jun 8, 2016, 9:28 AM Jun 8, 2016, 3:28 PM

                                          @Quazz said in Computers Join Domain before Hostname Changes:

                                          As far as I know <ComputerName> doesn’t work in unattend on Windows 10 anwyay.

                                          It works the same in win10 as in Win7. In my setup I don’t have the FOG client connect the computer to the domain or set the system name. I do that with a postinstall script because I need to control where the device connects in AD depending on the target location and image being deployed. Because of the dynamic nature of this OU placement it was just easier to calculate the values, update the unattend.xml file and let Windows OOBE setup do the rest.

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                                            zpoling @Wayne Workman
                                            last edited by Jun 8, 2016, 3:31 PM

                                            @Wayne-Workman The problem has been happening to all machines indiscriminately. Each image is made on that respective model of computer, so the only thing different would be drivers installed on each image. We use the same unattend file for each image.

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