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      Tim.Trageser
      last edited by

      I am about to get 5 or 6 Surfaces in and want to get a standard image ready to go. I am able to register the Surface and set it up for imaging, but using the Single Disk Resizable it tries to grab an image of the whole Partition rather than just the used space like all the other systems I have imaged.

      Has anyone run into this issue? I am going to try the other Image types but figured I would ask here as well.

      Thanks.

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      • Wayne WorkmanW
        Wayne Workman
        last edited by

        What version of FOG?

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          Tim.Trageser
          last edited by

          Oh sorry. Fog version 3432

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          • ch3iC
            ch3i Moderator
            last edited by

            @Tim-Trageser
            Hi,

            The disk is encrypted ?

            Regards,
            Ch3i

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              Tim.Trageser
              last edited by

              I don’t think so but I will check.

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                Tim.Trageser
                last edited by

                Okay, so a bit of info about Surface Pro 3. Once you boot into Windows the Drive itself is encrypted. The files are still open so if you copy them off you can access them, but you cannot access anything in the drive or manipulate the Partitions from outside the OS.

                The only way to dycrypt the drive that I have found so far and am about to test is to turn BitLocker on fully sending the keys to a flash drive, then turn off Bitlocker.

                I will let you know if that works. According the Internet if you do not boot into the OS then the drive should not be encrypted.

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                • Wayne WorkmanW
                  Wayne Workman
                  last edited by

                  A better question is…

                  If you take a RAW image, and deploy that to multiple Surface Pros, does it work?

                  Because a little longer deploy time and a little bigger image TO ME is far better than the hassle with encrypting/decrypting and USB flash drive keys and all that jazz.

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                  • ch3iC
                    ch3i Moderator @Tim.Trageser
                    last edited by

                    @Tim.Trageser Format and install a fresh Windows 😛

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                      Tim.Trageser
                      last edited by

                      This system that I am starting with was deployed before I got here and set up FOG. The person has now left the company and before I start messing with creating a Generic Image for all the new Surfaces I want to back this one up as is. I would not care about the size of the image except I am waiting on more storage space to become available and don’t have the room at the moment to have a 250 GB image sitting out there.

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                      • ch3iC
                        ch3i Moderator @Tim.Trageser
                        last edited by

                        @Tim.Trageser Can you test to disable bitlocker and upload your image on FOG ? (http://wind8apps.com/disable-bitlocker-windows-8/)

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                          Tim.Trageser
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                          ALready in the process of decrypting after turning it off. Will post once I try imaging it.

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                          • Tom ElliottT
                            Tom Elliott
                            last edited by

                            This may sound crazy now, but does anybody remember that we zip the image files? This means that while a raw copy takes a lot longer, the actual size on disk is much smaller than the size of the image when on disk. This same principle is in affect for all imaging types. Free space compresses quite nicely. This means that your 250 gb disk may need this same size or larger disk to image onto, actual size on disk may be around 70 gb on server.

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                              need2 Moderator
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                              Make sure you have fully updated your Surface Pro 3 prior to imaging. There have been significant changes to its UEFI BIOS of the past couple of months, even specifically impacting network boot.

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                              • ch3iC
                                ch3i Moderator @Tom Elliott
                                last edited by

                                @Tom-Elliott said:

                                This may sound crazy now, but does anybody remember that we zip the image files? This means that while a raw copy takes a lot longer, the actual size on disk is much smaller than the size of the image when on disk. This same principle is in affect for all imaging types. Free space compresses quite nicely. This means that your 250 gb disk may need this same size or larger disk to image onto, actual size on disk may be around 70 gb on server.

                                Hi,

                                Not sure about that, in my previous job I had all of laptops crypted with Truecrypt (whole disk), all dump with compression are simple DD… I was in 0.32.

                                Regards,
                                Ch3i.

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                                • Tom ElliottT
                                  Tom Elliott @ch3i
                                  last edited by

                                  Yep, but using partclone I only have to call one method for everything.
                                  @ch3i said:

                                  @Tom-Elliott said:

                                  This may sound crazy now, but does anybody remember that we zip the image files? This means that while a raw copy takes a lot longer, the actual size on disk is much smaller than the size of the image when on disk. This same principle is in affect for all imaging types. Free space compresses quite nicely. This means that your 250 gb disk may need this same size or larger disk to image onto, actual size on disk may be around 70 gb on server.

                                  Hi,

                                  Not sure about that, in my previous job I had all of laptops crypted with Truecrypt (whole disk), all dump with compression are simple DD… I was in 0.32.

                                  Regards,
                                  Ch3i.

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                                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                                    Wayne Workman
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                                    @Tim-Trageser

                                    We are requesting that all community members who have Surface Pros to please do a packet capture, to capture the DHCP conversation the client sends out at boot time via the ethernet dock, and upload the capture here. The intent is to gather more information about the Surface Pro, so fog can better support network booting it.

                                    Thanks,
                                    Wayne

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