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  • A
    avandel
    last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 11:47 AM

    Hello,

    I am not sure where to put this, so anyone who thinks it must be moved, please do so.
    I tried to get Fog on a series of hardware, but recently i bought a I5 with 8GB for my Windows 2012 server, and from there i used a virtualbox to get FOG Virtual machine to work. Installing went very smooth, redirecting the virtual network card to the hardware NIC made it possible that i could ping this FOG installation. Then i wanted pixie-boot to the FOG machine, but what i tried and what i did, didn’t make it work. I got no errors from FOG, but in the proces i found that the TFTP was not responding. Is there a way to get that vital part of FOG working? or am i just stupid and overlooked something important. Please fire any question you have, i will try it and tell you what it says.
    Thanks for any input.

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      Tom Elliott
      last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 11:53 AM

      My guess,

      Have you ensured firewall/selinux are off and disabled on the FOG server?

      On the VBOX installation, are you using a bridged network connection?

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      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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        avandel
        last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 3:31 PM

        I hope i did this the right way:

        • Network bridge is connected with the realtek network card.
        • Fog version FogServer.VMDK version 0.27
        • Running on (included in VMDK) Ubuntu. Don’t know how to get version.
        • is there a log produced in the VMDK? because when i start Oracle VM it runs from vmdk.
        • Yes, i tried looking all over the net about the ‘not properly’ working TFTP and all i did was quit the FOG menu (option 7) and tried some suggestions people gave but without result. My knowledge of Linux is not big, every step i have to lookup on the net. Sorry.
          So, i don’t know where to start looking now…
          Your reaction about the firewall/selinux (what that is?), could you help me check this? if i did it ok?
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          need2 Moderator
          last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 3:42 PM

          What firewall/AV do you have running on the Windows side of things? I had to tell my AV software to leave the virtual connection completely alone, but the other option would be creating exceptions for every port that the Virtual Machine would use.

          On a side note, why are you using Virtualbox instead of the built in Hyper-V? If you are running a Windows Server install, Hyper-V should already be included, and should give you better virtualization performance and support.

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            avandel
            last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 5:00 PM

            Hi, standard windows 2012 server, with, i’m sorry but Microsoft thought it was fun to reject my virusscanner, Forefront, Security essentials, defender etc… it seems that R1 is the next step. My 2008 server checks everything with it’s running virusscanner, no worry.
            Firewall is open and accessible, i can ping my fog server but tftp commands fail from ws to fog server and even on the w2012 server. I resetup fog and let the dhcp, gateway point to the server where dhcp is running. Maybe that’ll help… wait, no it does not…
            Why not Hyper v? because i want this to run on bare metal, but i don’t have the available hardware at the moment, and this was the fastest way without installing Microsoft Hyper-V.

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              avandel
              last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 5:17 PM

              I give up, i have failed in my work, my life and in the choice of computer programs… sigh…
              I think i go back to the time where i had to install windows 3.1 manually with floppydisks:( sometimes 40 times a week or more…
              I know that it can work, but i lack the people around me with the same interest and virality.
              Anyone to tell me to change this all the way around? happy to hear from you because there are so many variables doing a little bit of this and that, that it looks a no-go-situation.
              I’m not sure where to look now…

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                BPSTravis Developer
                last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 5:45 PM

                Have you checked to make sure tftp is running?

                On your fog server:
                [CODE]ps ax|grep tftp[/CODE]

                Your output should look like this if the TFTP service is running:
                [CODE] 6864 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user root --address 0.0.0.0:69 -s /tftpboot
                13104 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto tftp
                [/CODE]

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                  VincentJ Moderator
                  last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 6:00 PM

                  why are you running 0.27 when 1.2 is out? 🙂

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                    avandel
                    last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 7:20 PM

                    @BPSTravis i done that and the only reponse was:
                    16451 tty1 R+ 0:00 grep tftp
                    @ VincentJ, the first thing i tried was update Ubuntu and FOG. Ubuntu went ok through the fog menu but FOG itself got the error message: name or service not known
                    download not found
                    So i’m stuck with this. Yes, other downloads work fine, but the menu i’ll get, the one with 7 options, if i quit that, fog still runs???
                    I guess so because i can still access the webinterface. How do i update within the VM environment, and does it save in the VM-file?

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                      joseph3
                      last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 7:22 PM

                      I’ve noticed that if WDS is running on any other server, clients will look there first.
                      I just moved FOG VHD off virtual box and onto HyperV and had problems until I realized that I got a new IP assigned.
                      This was due to new mac address being issued which made my prior reservation invalid.
                      In HyperV, VM settings, Advanced Features, I was able to assign a static MAC address to match the prior DHCP reservation

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                        avandel
                        last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 7:28 PM

                        I have my network safe, i mean i use only cabling. Had too much troubleshooting days finding that some wall had more iron in it than it needed. So, no wireless is interfering. I can ping the FOG server, i can reach its webserver from my ws and i can ping from my W2012 server to the FOG environment.
                        Earlier i answered that this is a temporarily setup, and i do not want to install Hyper-V, because this will bring unkown areas to the problem. Later maybe if the hardware is still too far away i’ll reconsider installing Hyper-V.

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                          BPSTravis Developer
                          last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 7:52 PM

                          [quote=“avandel, post: 37492, member: 26498”]@BPSTravis i done that and the only reponse was:
                          16451 tty1 R+ 0:00 grep tftp
                          @ VincentJ, the first thing i tried was update Ubuntu and FOG. Ubuntu went ok through the fog menu but FOG itself got the error message: name or service not known
                          download not found
                          So i’m stuck with this. Yes, other downloads work fine, but the menu i’ll get, the one with 7 options, if i quit that, fog still runs???
                          I guess so because i can still access the webinterface. How do i update within the VM environment, and does it save in the VM-file?[/quote]

                          Then your tftp service is NOT running on your system which is why it’s not working…

                          open a terminal and type:
                          [CODE]sudo /etc/init.d/tftp-hpa restart[/CODE]

                          If it starts correctly give it another shot, if it doesn’t please post the output.

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                            avandel
                            last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 8:19 PM

                            So, you say tftp is not working, i had to reinstall the whole thing, and disabled the firewall, i tried to get your option to work, you forgot a letter, [FONT=Consolas]sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart [/FONT]so, i tried testing with the TFTP command but no response.
                            There was no output from the server when i used the sudo command, it accepted and went to the next line…

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                              BPSTravis Developer
                              last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 8:22 PM

                              I did miss a letter, my apologies. If it started the service there should be an output listing the pid hat it started with.

                              What version of Ubuntu are you running? And if you are doing re-installs of FOG why are you not using a more recent version??

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                                avandel
                                last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 8:29 PM

                                The version of ubuntu, i don’t know (is there a way the cmd can tell me?)
                                I would like to know how to upgrade FOG within VM, but i can’t find a neat way to do it.
                                Updating on retry to [FONT=Consolas]ps ax|grep tftp[/FONT]
                                4490 ? Ss 0:00 in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
                                6105 tty1 R+ 0:00 grep tftp
                                This was the output, but from WS or W2012 server still no tftp cmd line response… Weird.

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                                  BPSTravis Developer
                                  last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 8:32 PM

                                  [CODE]lsb_release -a
                                  [/CODE]

                                  Will give you the OS version.

                                  As for upgrading within the VM, why not use SVN?

                                  [url]http://www.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/SVN[/url]

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                                    avandel
                                    last edited by Oct 6, 2014, 9:26 PM

                                    [B]Thanks for that:) [/B],
                                    version is
                                    Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
                                    I will look into your other option, but not at this moment, i need to relax. I’m coming back on this issue tomorrow

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                                      avandel
                                      last edited by Oct 7, 2014, 7:03 AM

                                      Hi there, new day, fresh start, new problems to come…((-:
                                      I looked at SVN, briefly, but when i get this VM running, or when i get the right hardware to install ubuntu and FOG, then there’s no need for this SVN. I guess at this point, i want to make this work, so stubborn as i am, i need this for my egoboost ((-:
                                      No, i’m joking, but it is on my W2012 server at this time the simplest solution without compromising a lot on my server.
                                      I’m still looking into former reactions, and trying the best i can do for now.

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                                        avandel
                                        last edited by Oct 7, 2014, 8:36 AM

                                        I had done a few tweaks,
                                        sudo /bin/sleep 30 && /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
                                        DHCP option 66 10.1.0.21
                                        DHCP option 67 pxelinux.0 or undionly.kpxe (which one do i really need here?)
                                        and as stubborn Microsoft sometimes is, i deleted option 60 in DHCP (PXEClient) from both servers in scope and server options.
                                        Now when i start my older laptop and go to boot from lan, i get FOG. So the next step is quick host configuration and that worked too.
                                        Now i try to get an image from it, remotely… cross my fingers…

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                                          avandel
                                          last edited by Oct 7, 2014, 8:57 AM

                                          No go this last option, deleting number 60. I can’t get into my domain because of a failing trust relationship. It is in Dutch so i can spill it here but that makes no sense if you don’t understand the language.
                                          I’m putting thing back the way they were and retry to log in on the domain.
                                          Btw. the task i gave FOG, upload a image, got on the laptop from which i just spoke a tftp timeout. it is still trying… and the home screen of the fog server says that there is no task, no activity…
                                          I’ll be back later…

                                          And later it is, it seems that for no reason at all my old hp laptop decided to “I will not log in anymore” in windows domain. So, i have to reinstall the darn thing. Coming back on a later time.

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