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    Timo
    last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 1:59 PM

    Hii there, i will try to boot the second machine into safe mode, but the hardware in detail is absolutely the same (every 34 Machines)

    I go into the direction, that anything with the partition tables are not correct. My Master has 4 Partitions (cause i build them new)

    But the Dell Machines that are wating for the Image, has different partitions Linux and so on…

    The Image only works correct if on the target machine exists the same Partition Table as on the Master…

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      cadyfish
      last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:00 PM

      Timo,

      If you are using these computers on a domain you really NEED to use the sysprep process otherwise you will run into issues with Windows 7… XP was a different story due to you could use newsid.

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        Timo
        last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:01 PM

        [quote=“cadyfish, post: 35401, member: 24458”]Timo,

        If you are using these computers on a domain you really NEED to use the sysprep process otherwise you will run into issues with Windows 7… XP was a different story due to you could use newsid.[/quote]

        Hi thanks for your advice, but the Machines are not in an Windows Domain

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          Tom Elliott
          last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:04 PM

          Timo,

          Are the partitions not being wiped before imaging occurs?

          What’s supposed to be happening is the hdd get’s zeroed out then the new mbr get’s written to them which generates the new partition layout.

          You’re stating that those with ext partitions aren’t imaging, but the ext partitions shouldn’t even exist at that point if you’re running with the same image to the same machines.

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            G0dzilla
            last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:04 PM

            The drives should have the same partition table etc after imaging…

            Perhaps try a fdisk -l under debug mode or in a linux distro to check.

            Verify you have the same partitions on the correct drives.

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              Timo
              last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:09 PM

              [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 35403, member: 7271”]Timo,

              Are the partitions not being wiped before imaging occurs?

              What’s supposed to be happening is the hdd get’s zeroed out then the new mbr get’s written to them which generates the new partition layout.

              You’re stating that those with ext partitions aren’t imaging, but the ext partitions shouldn’t even exist at that point if you’re running with the same image to the same machines.[/quote]

              Hi Tom, how can i do that, that the hdd’s wiped out, before i restore the Image? Manually create an Task?

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                Junkhacker Developer
                last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:10 PM

                you say the hardware is exactly the same, but are the hard drives plugged into the same sata ports on the motherboards?

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                  Timo
                  last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:13 PM

                  [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 35407, member: 21583”]you say the hardware is exactly the same, but are the hard drives plugged into the same sata ports on the motherboards?[/quote]

                  Hi, yes the Machines are untouched and are all on the same SATA Ports, the Windows 7 boots up, thats the Case, but everytime BSOD

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                    Timo
                    last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 2:23 PM

                    [ATTACH=full]1297[/ATTACH][ATTACH]1297[/ATTACH] At this Time i run an Debug-Upload from my Master and made an Screenshot from fdisk-l so you get an Idea how the Partition are look like

                    [url=“/_imported_xf_attachments/1/1297_IMG_20140818_161525.jpg?:”]IMG_20140818_161525.jpg[/url]

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                      Timo
                      last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 3:10 PM

                      ok im finished, after finishing my debug-upload, i restored it again on an Machine, and i looked at it the whole restore process. What comes up, was, that the partition sdb1 wasn’t recognized and don’t get restored, why is that so? And could that be the reason cause of the BSOD? SDB1 is just an NTFS partition on the second normal HDD

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                        G0dzilla
                        last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 4:07 PM

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                          G0dzilla
                          last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 4:09 PM

                          [INDENT]Maybe try unplug/remove the HDD from the master + a test PC, create a new image with SSD only [multipart single disk], and restore that to the test PC ?

                          will rule out if the HDD/2nd drive is causing any problems.[/INDENT]

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                            G0dzilla
                            last edited by Aug 18, 2014, 4:10 PM

                            Other things you could try that [I]may [/I]help;

                            chkdsk /f [or /R]
                            sfc /scannow

                            start fresh, without the dell recovery partition.

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                              Timo
                              last edited by Aug 19, 2014, 7:04 AM

                              [quote=“G0dzilla, post: 35431, member: 1692”]
                              [INDENT=1]Maybe try unplug/remove the HDD from the master + a test PC, create a new image with SSD only [multipart single disk], and restore that to the test PC ?[/INDENT]
                              [INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
                              [INDENT=1]will rule out if the HDD/2nd drive is causing any problems.[/INDENT]
                              [/quote]

                              Good Morning everyone, will try that now, i just deactivated the SATA Port from the HDD, its the same. Imaging now and will report back, but at the restore i will let the HDD present in Bios.

                              Another Thing, imaging with Clonezilla and restore runs, but i have to use USB Stick and thats slow and not an nice Solution, but the Machines runs fine after restore…

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                                Timo
                                last edited by Aug 19, 2014, 8:08 AM

                                Ok me again, the new Image with Multiple Partition-Single Disk runs! I’ve made an Image without the Data HDD (deactivated in Bios) and now Windows 7 comes up.

                                Edit!! Ok wrong alert, after multicastin it to 8 Machines, windows 7 starts but again with Bluescreen, dunno why the one machine runs after the restore, any Suggestions?

                                Was multicastin it, but why my machines wasn’t woke up? any clue?

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                                  Tom Elliott
                                  last edited by Aug 19, 2014, 12:48 PM

                                  When you originally received these machines, did they come preloaded with Windows 8/8.1?

                                  Even if they didn’t, do they have UEFI capable BIOS’?

                                  I ask these questions because WOL does not work natively with these that I’m aware of. It also doesn’t have support to enable WOL from the BIOS, you have to boot to windows and use the Power saving modes to enable the WOL parts.

                                  Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                                  Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                                  Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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                                    Raff
                                    last edited by Aug 19, 2014, 1:34 PM

                                    [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2776718[/url]

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                                      G0dzilla
                                      last edited by Aug 20, 2014, 8:31 AM

                                      [quote=“Timo, post: 35474, member: 25674”]
                                      Edit!! Ok wrong alert, after multicastin it to 8 Machines, windows 7 starts but again with Bluescreen, dunno why the one machine runs after the restore, any Suggestions?[/quote]

                                      Did the one machine that work have the SSD and HDD connected, or JUST the SSD?

                                      Did the machines that failed have the SSD and HDD connected, or JUST the SSD?

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                                        pmonstad
                                        last edited by Aug 20, 2014, 10:14 AM

                                        [quote=“G0dzilla, post: 35535, member: 1692”]Did the one machine that work have the SSD and HDD connected, or JUST the SSD?

                                        Did the machines that failed have the SSD and HDD connected, or JUST the SSD?[/quote]

                                        Try to turn off AHCI in BIOS (normally found under SATA settings, harddisks. Choose Compatibility mode.

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