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      processor @george1421
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      @george1421 ok Thanks. It’ll be tomorrow as from their it’s already 8pm.
      If you already have few commands to run let me know.
      Did you see my PS in my previous post (about reserved partition)?
      I read this: https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/9318/partitions-is-not-shrinking-in-windows-10/14 and if I well understand a reserved partition will be set to a fixed size.

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        processor @george1421
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        @george1421 As I thought the only present partition is seen as reserved. Could it be possible that a main partition would also be a reserved partition or could it be seen as reserved by fog without being it?
        I’ll send a screenshot later.

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          george1421 Moderator @processor
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          @processor Ah, it looks like I never followed through with the commands I wanted you to try.

          1. Boot into the FOS debug console.
          2. key in lsblk and post the output here.
          3. key in fdisk -l /dev/sda and post the output here.
          4. key in (assuming the second partition is the windows 😄 drive):
          mkdir /ntfs
          ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/sda2 /ntfs
          ls -la /ntfs
          
          1. Confirm the output of the ls -la appears to be the 😄 drive
          umount /ntfs
          
          1. Done.

          I’m going to suspect that the mount command either won’t complete or will give us garbage response.

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            processor
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            I can’t try right now because i’m not working but I can tell you there is no sda2, only sda1.
            Sda1 seen as reserved partition by fog client when I try to capture the disk.
            I’ll try what you ask tomorrow morning.

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              george1421 Moderator @processor
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              @processor said in Wrong Image Size indicated in the image manager.:

              I can tell you there is no sda2, only sda1

              There is only one partition on that disk? This is a windows computer right? If there is no sda2 then just run the other commands, that will give us a better picture of your disk layout.

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                processor @george1421
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                @george1421

                I did what you asked these are the screenshots :

                63dade8a-d228-4a21-8384-80b058412de4-image.png

                1c2fb802-ed92-4246-b385-911ae1caa58b-image.png

                So as you see one partition, and it content is visible.

                I did further tests :

                -HD Base mode, with 1 reserved partition and an OS partition : Resizing OK
                -HD Base mode, with 1 Partition only for the OS : Resizing KO, partition detected as reserver even if it’s not
                -HD Dynamic mode, with 1 partition or more : Resizing OK, but with this message : ldm_parse_tocblock() cannot find tocblock, I don’t yet know if deploy work with the created image did not had time to test yet and it seems the capture is longer.

                Any idea why FOG detected a solo win10 partition on a base disk as reserved?

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                  george1421 Moderator @processor
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                  @processor While I see it, I don’t believe it. I’ve never seen a windows install with just a single partition (after Windows NT). Is there another disk in the system because the boot partition is missing or this is a strange MBR disk.
                  The fact that there is only one partition may be confusing FOG’s logic because the first partition of a windows disk is always fixed in size. How did you create this disk layout?

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                    processor @george1421
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                    @george1421
                    I don’t know, it’s been done by a colleague of mine. But as far as I know users here install base OS with genuine Microsoft sources, clicking next, next . But I think we have the same behavior with our 2K16 base capture.

                    Is there any possibility to avoid the detection as reserved partition by command line in debug mode for instance? Or do we have to rebuild the bases and the full images we’ve done with this unconventional disk organization?

                    Bad news for us converting base disk to dynamic make the capture resizable , but can’t deploy it on another machine.

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                      Junkhacker Developer @george1421
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                      @george1421 said in Wrong Image Size indicated in the image manager.:

                      I’ve never seen a windows install with just a single partition (after Windows NT)

                      …but that was the standard for xp and 2000 pro. it was also easy to configure with windows 7, even though it wasn’t the default.

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                        george1421 Moderator @Junkhacker
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                        @Junkhacker Right, but windows 10 should never do that. I’m not even sure I can make it create just one big partition. I know bitlocker as well as uefi system’s can’t boot from that disk structure.

                        My intuition is telling me to start over and do it right because this structure will bite you in the backside in the future like with a feature upgrade.

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                          processor @george1421
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                          @george1421
                          May be because we use Legacy boot and not UEFI?

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                            Junkhacker Developer @george1421
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                            @george1421 uefi systems definitely couldn’t use it, but i don’t see any reason it wouldn’t be possible with windows 10. sure wouldn’t recommend it though. it just really threw me off when you said you hadn’t seen single partition setups since NT

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                              Junkhacker Developer @processor
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                              @processor even with legacy boot, this is far from the default setup

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                                george1421 Moderator @Junkhacker
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                                @Junkhacker said in Wrong Image Size indicated in the image manager.:

                                single partition setups since NT

                                FWIW: I believe NT and Win2000 use the same kernel. But I could be wrong there too, that was almost 20 years ago you know.

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                                  processor
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                                  OK, you are certainly both right. But this not help. As I did not made the bases I don’t know what happened.
                                  Now :

                                  • is there any way for this image to be compliant with FOG? (any way to recreate the system partition without breaking everything)

                                  • list item there any way make FOG not detect them as reserved?

                                  • list item Or the only option is to rebuild the source images?

                                  By the way many thanks for the interest you put in this subject 😉

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                                    george1421 Moderator @processor
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                                    @processor said in Wrong Image Size indicated in the image manager.:

                                    list item there any way make FOG not detect them as reserved?

                                    Lets start by removing this one from the list. The word “reserved” is a special word. If you look at the drive with windows running in the computer management applet. Does that partition say “Reserved”. If it label say OS or something else then we can remove the “reserved” line from your issue. Then its down to FOG treating the first partition as unsizable.

                                    is there any way for this image to be compliant with FOG?

                                    Its just not the matter of making it compliant with FOG, it’s not Microsoft best practices compliant. We probably can make fog do what we want, but you will have issues in the future with Microsoft upgrades. So the question is do you make it right now or latter. It really isn’t a fog question.

                                    @Developers if its the first partition thing, can we just mark the image as resizable in the image config files?

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                                      Junkhacker Developer @george1421
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                                      @george1421 said in Wrong Image Size indicated in the image manager.:

                                      @Developers if its the first partition thing, can we just mark the image as resizable in the image config files?

                                      yeah, that should work.

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                                        processor
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                                        Great, how to do it? Is it something that I can do or is it something that can only be done by the devs?

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                                          george1421 Moderator @processor
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                                          @processor Its something you can do, but I don’t remember the exact file to change. Its a simple change, but if you make the wrong one its not good. That is why I sent a note to the devs.

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                                            processor @george1421
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                                            @george1421 ok looking forward the info.

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