Hyper V and Pxe boot to Fog problems

[george1421]

@george1421 rom-o-matic build image url for ipxe with

#undefine DOWNLOAD_PROTO_HTTPS
#undefine IMAGE_TRUST_CMD
#undefine CERT_CMD

https://rom-o-matic.eu/build.fcgi?BINARY=ipxe.efi&BINDIR=bin-x86_64-efi&REVISION=master&DEBUG=&EMBED.00script.ipxe=%23%21ipxe%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet0/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net0%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net0%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet1%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net0%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet1%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet1/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net1%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net1%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet2%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net1%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet2%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet2/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net2%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net2%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpall%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20anser%20on%20infterface%20net2%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpall%0Adhcp%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcperror%0A%0A%3Adhcperror%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20DHCP%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A%0A%3Aproxycheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%26%26%20set%20next-server%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%7C%7C%20goto%20nextservercheck%0A%0A%3Anextservercheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnext-server%7D%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Asetserv%0Aecho%20-n%20Please%20enter%20tftp%20server%3A%20%26%26%20read%20next-server%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Anetboot%0Achain%20tftp%3A//%24%7Bnext-server%7D/default.ipxe%20%7C%7C%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20Chainloading%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A&general.h/IMAGE_SCRIPT:=1&general.h/IMAGE_EFI:=1&general.h/IWMGMT_CMD:=0&general.h/NSLOOKUP_CMD:=1&general.h/TIME_CMD:=1&general.h/DIGEST_CMD:=1&general.h/LOTEST_CMD:=1&general.h/VLAN_CMD:=1&general.h/REBOOT_CMD:=1&general.h/POWEROFF_CMD:=1&general.h/PCI_CMD:=1&general.h/PARAM_CMD:=1&general.h/NEIGHBOUR_CMD:=1&general.h/PING_CMD:=1&general.h/CONSOLE_CMD:=1&general.h/NTP_CMD:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_FRAMEBUFFER:=1&general.h/ROM_BANNER_TIMEOUT=40%20&branding.h/PRODUCT_NAME=FOG%20Project&branding.h/PRODUCT_SHORT_NAME=FOG%20iPXE&

[lukebarone]

Is there any update on this? Or are we waiting on the iPXE crew to fix it?

[george1421]

@lukebarone Can/will you paste in the link in my last post into your browser. That will instruct the rom-o-matic site to create a new ipxe.efi where the certificate stuff is turned off. FOG doesn’t currently use the certificate code at all. I’m interested in see if having the code turned off works for you too. Once the rom-o-matic site finishes it will present you will a new ipxe.efi to download. Swap that file out for the FOG supplied image and test.

In the end we are waiting for the iPXE folks to fix the issue with the certificate code running on hyper-v

[lukebarone]

@george1421 I get “PXE-E79: NBP is too big to fit in free base memory”. The VM is Windows 7, on Gen 1 Hyper-V.

[george1421]

@lukebarone Ok lets backup here. The issue we were trying to solve is pxe booting into uefi mode. The image above makes me think we are in bios mode.

[lukebarone]

@george1421 said in Hyper V and Pxe boot to Fog problems:

@paulman9 OK great, that means that the currently shipping version of iPXE does resolve your issue. I suspected that it would not work 100%, but what did work was getting past the initializing devices. I’ll take a look at creating the full undionly.kpxe boot kernel in a while for you to test. But for now it looks like we have a path forward.

@Developers be aware that the current version of iPXE addresses hyper-v booting. I’ve seen this in a few threads lately.

I’m at this stage. The params: command not found issue. I saw earlier in the thread that people were trying on Gen 1 VMs, which would be BIOS-compatible. If you need, I can start a new thread?

I’m using the custom undionly_546dd.kpxe file you uploaded on your Google Drive to get this far.

[george1421]

@lukebarone OK well then I’m the lost one. I built the wrong frick’n boot loader. I’ll have to go back and start over and build the undionly.kpxe one. Sorry I’m trying to do too many things at one. I’ll work on the bios version one over night.

[Tom Elliott]

@george1421 the Paramus command needs to be enabled.

[george1421]

@tom-elliott 10-4. I built the wrong kernel with the rom-o-matic, don’t trust and old guy’s memory on what he should be doing.

In the first go around I just built a test version to see if it might work.

[george1421]

Note these are not official iPXE boot loaders, these are tests to see if the certificate code offered by the iPXE developers are causing problems with 1709 based Hyper-V virtual machines

Here is the rom-o-matic build image url for undionly.kpxe and ipxe.kpxe without

#undefine DOWNLOAD_PROTO_HTTPS
#undefine IMAGE_TRUST_CMD
#undefine CERT_CMD

The following link will create undionly.kpxe (you will need to rename the output of this script to undionly.kpxe since it will default to ipxe.kpxe.

https://rom-o-matic.eu/build.fcgi?BINARY=ipxe.kpxe&BINDIR=bin&REVISION=master&DEBUG=&EMBED.00script.ipxe=%23%21ipxe%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet0/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net0%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net0%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet1%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net0%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet1%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet1/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net1%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net1%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet2%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net1%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet2%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet2/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net2%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net2%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpall%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20anser%20on%20infterface%20net2%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpall%0Adhcp%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcperror%0A%0A%3Adhcperror%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20DHCP%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A%0A%3Aproxycheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%26%26%20set%20next-server%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%7C%7C%20goto%20nextservercheck%0A%0A%3Anextservercheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnext-server%7D%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Asetserv%0Aecho%20-n%20Please%20enter%20tftp%20server%3A%20%26%26%20read%20next-server%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Anetboot%0Achain%20tftp%3A//%24%7Bnext-server%7D/default.ipxe%20%7C%7C%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20Chainloading%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot&settings.h/VMWARE_SETTINGS:=1&general.h/PXE_STACK:=1&general.h/PXE_MENU:=1&general.h/DOWNLOAD_PROTO_NFS:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PXE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_SCRIPT:=1&general.h/IMAGE_BZIMAGE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PNM:=1&general.h/IWMGMT_CMD:=0&general.h/NSLOOKUP_CMD:=1&general.h/TIME_CMD:=1&general.h/DIGEST_CMD:=1&general.h/LOTEST_CMD:=1&general.h/VLAN_CMD:=1&general.h/PXE_CMD:=1&general.h/REBOOT_CMD:=1&general.h/POWEROFF_CMD:=1&general.h/PCI_CMD:=1&general.h/PARAM_CMD:=1&general.h/NEIGHBOUR_CMD:=1&general.h/PING_CMD:=1&general.h/CONSOLE_CMD:=1&general.h/IPSTAT_CMD:=1&general.h/NTP_CMD:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_FRAMEBUFFER:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_VMWARE:=1&general.h/ROM_BANNER_TIMEOUT=40&branding.h/PRODUCT_NAME=FOG%20iPXE&branding.h/PRODUCT_TAG_LINE=FOG%20Network%20Boot%20Firmware&

The following link will create the ipxe.kpxe file (all drivers)

https://rom-o-matic.eu/build.fcgi?BINARY=ipxe.kpxe&BINDIR=bin&REVISION=master&DEBUG=&EMBED.00script.ipxe=%23%21ipxe%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet0/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net0%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net0%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet1%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net0%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet1%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet1/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net1%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net1%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet2%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net1%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet2%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet2/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net2%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net2%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpall%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20anser%20on%20infterface%20net2%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpall%0Adhcp%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcperror%0A%0A%3Adhcperror%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20DHCP%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A%0A%3Aproxycheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%26%26%20set%20next-server%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%7C%7C%20goto%20nextservercheck%0A%0A%3Anextservercheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnext-server%7D%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Asetserv%0Aecho%20-n%20Please%20enter%20tftp%20server%3A%20%26%26%20read%20next-server%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Anetboot%0Achain%20tftp%3A//%24%7Bnext-server%7D/default.ipxe%20%7C%7C%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20Chainloading%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot&settings.h/VMWARE_SETTINGS:=1&general.h/PXE_STACK:=1&general.h/PXE_MENU:=1&general.h/DOWNLOAD_PROTO_NFS:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PXE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_SCRIPT:=1&general.h/IMAGE_BZIMAGE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PNM:=1&general.h/IWMGMT_CMD:=0&general.h/NSLOOKUP_CMD:=1&general.h/TIME_CMD:=1&general.h/DIGEST_CMD:=1&general.h/LOTEST_CMD:=1&general.h/VLAN_CMD:=1&general.h/PXE_CMD:=1&general.h/REBOOT_CMD:=1&general.h/POWEROFF_CMD:=1&general.h/PCI_CMD:=1&general.h/PARAM_CMD:=1&general.h/NEIGHBOUR_CMD:=1&general.h/PING_CMD:=1&general.h/CONSOLE_CMD:=1&general.h/IPSTAT_CMD:=1&general.h/NTP_CMD:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_FRAMEBUFFER:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_VMWARE:=1&general.h/ROM_BANNER_TIMEOUT=40&branding.h/PRODUCT_NAME=FOG%20iPXE&branding.h/PRODUCT_TAG_LINE=FOG%20Network%20Boot%20Firmware&

[lukebarone]

@george1421 said in Hyper V and Pxe boot to Fog problems:

Note these are not official iPXE boot loaders, these are tests to see if the certificate code offered by the iPXE developers are causing problems with 1709 based Hyper-V virtual machines

Here is the rom-o-matic build image url for undionly.kpxe and ipxe.kpxe without

#undefine DOWNLOAD_PROTO_HTTPS
#undefine IMAGE_TRUST_CMD
#undefine CERT_CMD

The following link will create undionly.kpxe (you will need to rename the output of this script to undionly.kpxe since it will default to ipxe.kpxe.

https://rom-o-matic.eu/build.fcgi?BINARY=ipxe.kpxe&BINDIR=bin&REVISION=master&DEBUG=&EMBED.00script.ipxe=%23%21ipxe%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet0/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net0%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net0%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet1%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net0%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet1%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet1/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net1%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net1%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet2%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net1%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet2%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet2/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net2%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net2%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpall%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20anser%20on%20infterface%20net2%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpall%0Adhcp%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcperror%0A%0A%3Adhcperror%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20DHCP%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A%0A%3Aproxycheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%26%26%20set%20next-server%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%7C%7C%20goto%20nextservercheck%0A%0A%3Anextservercheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnext-server%7D%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Asetserv%0Aecho%20-n%20Please%20enter%20tftp%20server%3A%20%26%26%20read%20next-server%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Anetboot%0Achain%20tftp%3A//%24%7Bnext-server%7D/default.ipxe%20%7C%7C%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20Chainloading%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot&settings.h/VMWARE_SETTINGS:=1&general.h/PXE_STACK:=1&general.h/PXE_MENU:=1&general.h/DOWNLOAD_PROTO_NFS:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PXE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_SCRIPT:=1&general.h/IMAGE_BZIMAGE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PNM:=1&general.h/IWMGMT_CMD:=0&general.h/NSLOOKUP_CMD:=1&general.h/TIME_CMD:=1&general.h/DIGEST_CMD:=1&general.h/LOTEST_CMD:=1&general.h/VLAN_CMD:=1&general.h/PXE_CMD:=1&general.h/REBOOT_CMD:=1&general.h/POWEROFF_CMD:=1&general.h/PCI_CMD:=1&general.h/PARAM_CMD:=1&general.h/NEIGHBOUR_CMD:=1&general.h/PING_CMD:=1&general.h/CONSOLE_CMD:=1&general.h/IPSTAT_CMD:=1&general.h/NTP_CMD:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_FRAMEBUFFER:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_VMWARE:=1&general.h/ROM_BANNER_TIMEOUT=40&branding.h/PRODUCT_NAME=FOG%20iPXE&branding.h/PRODUCT_TAG_LINE=FOG%20Network%20Boot%20Firmware&

This produces the error message: iPXE initialising devices...WARNING: Using legacy NIC wrapper on <MAC Address>

The following link will create the ipxe.kpxe file (all drivers)

https://rom-o-matic.eu/build.fcgi?BINARY=ipxe.kpxe&BINDIR=bin&REVISION=master&DEBUG=&EMBED.00script.ipxe=%23%21ipxe%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet0/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net0%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net0%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet1%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net0%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet1%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet1/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net1%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net1%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpnet2%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20answer%20on%20interface%20net1%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpnet2%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnet2/mac%7D%20%26%26%20ifopen%20net2%20%26%26%20dhcp%20net2%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcpall%0Aecho%20Received%20DHCP%20anser%20on%20infterface%20net2%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%0A%0A%3Adhcpall%0Adhcp%20%26%26%20goto%20proxycheck%20%7C%7C%20goto%20dhcperror%0A%0A%3Adhcperror%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20DHCP%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot%0A%0A%3Aproxycheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%26%26%20set%20next-server%20%24%7Bproxydhcp/next-server%7D%20%7C%7C%20goto%20nextservercheck%0A%0A%3Anextservercheck%0Aisset%20%24%7Bnext-server%7D%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Asetserv%0Aecho%20-n%20Please%20enter%20tftp%20server%3A%20%26%26%20read%20next-server%20%26%26%20goto%20netboot%20%7C%7C%20goto%20setserv%0A%0A%3Anetboot%0Achain%20tftp%3A//%24%7Bnext-server%7D/default.ipxe%20%7C%7C%0Aprompt%20--key%20s%20--timeout%2010000%20Chainloading%20failed%2C%20hit%20%27s%27%20for%20the%20iPXE%20shell%3B%20reboot%20in%2010%20seconds%20%26%26%20shell%20%7C%7C%20reboot&settings.h/VMWARE_SETTINGS:=1&general.h/PXE_STACK:=1&general.h/PXE_MENU:=1&general.h/DOWNLOAD_PROTO_NFS:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PXE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_SCRIPT:=1&general.h/IMAGE_BZIMAGE:=1&general.h/IMAGE_PNM:=1&general.h/IWMGMT_CMD:=0&general.h/NSLOOKUP_CMD:=1&general.h/TIME_CMD:=1&general.h/DIGEST_CMD:=1&general.h/LOTEST_CMD:=1&general.h/VLAN_CMD:=1&general.h/PXE_CMD:=1&general.h/REBOOT_CMD:=1&general.h/POWEROFF_CMD:=1&general.h/PCI_CMD:=1&general.h/PARAM_CMD:=1&general.h/NEIGHBOUR_CMD:=1&general.h/PING_CMD:=1&general.h/CONSOLE_CMD:=1&general.h/IPSTAT_CMD:=1&general.h/NTP_CMD:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_FRAMEBUFFER:=1&console.h/CONSOLE_VMWARE:=1&general.h/ROM_BANNER_TIMEOUT=40&branding.h/PRODUCT_NAME=FOG%20iPXE&branding.h/PRODUCT_TAG_LINE=FOG%20Network%20Boot%20Firmware&

Same screen with the second file as well. Still stalls out, so it does not go past that.

[Paulman9]

@lukebarone Here is the one I built from source that is working for us
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_HRH87klCVQ46raZDAeB8kwCdto0z8MR/view?usp=sharing

[lukebarone]

@paulman9 This worked for me! I could boot to do a Quick Registration, and I’m currently capturing my golden image!

Thank you very much!

[jkoos101]

@lukebarone @Paulman9 I have the same issue with Hyper V and Windows 10 1709. What is the process to get the updated undionly.kpxe downloaded and installed on the Fog server running Ubuntu from the google drive link?

[lukebarone]

@jkoos101 I dropped the file into my /tftpboot folder on the FOG server. In my DHCP server, I made sure the filename attribute matched the filename to server.

[jkoos101]

@lukebarone Thanks! I’ll try that.

[jkoos101]

@lukebarone I was able to copy the file over and now I’m currently capturing my image! Thanks again!

[Sebastian Roth]

@lukebarone said in Hyper V and Pxe boot to Fog problems:

Is there any update on this? Or are we waiting on the iPXE crew to fix it?

Thanks for bringing that back up on screen. If I remember correctly I had only reported the rom-o-matic issue so far.

About the actual HyperV iPXE crypto code issue - I don’t think this has been reported anywhere yet. @Paulman9 I think you know the most about which options exactly play a role here. Did you get to compile a debug enabled binary and look into the code as I suggested (make ... DEBUG=https)?

[Hope1983]

iT WORKS FOR ME TOOO THX A LOT

[Paulman9]

@sebastian-roth Sorry I must have missed your last comment originally. Compiling with any one of those three lines (even just the https line) causes it to fail. I didn’t see any difference using the debug command to compile it. Honestly, not sure what I should be looking for with that though.

Also, I did submit this to the ipxe forums, who responded that this was a Microsoft issue. While I did also submit this in the feedback app in windows 10, I’m not holding my breath for Microsoft to do anything about this.