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    • greyG
      grey @george1421
      last edited by

      @george1421
      i’ve been reading through all this and i wanted to make this distinction

      this is the RJ45 1 gig ethernet nic, the one i’m using for imageing
      2:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5720 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:165f]

      this is a 10g fiberchannel port and is not important for imaging
      04:00.1 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:168e] (rev 10)

      just don’t want anyone to waste effort on the 10g port as its not being used for this.

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      • george1421G
        george1421 Moderator @grey
        last edited by george1421

        @grey OK then, we are looking for device 02:00.0. If I understand the logs correctly you posted the error for device 04:00.0

        Just to make sure eth0 and eth1 are the 1GbE nics?

        I’ve also been searching on that error, I did find two posts that were similar errors
        https://github.com/coreos/bugs/issues/450
        https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/5/9/797

        I’m still trying to understand if the error -2 means the firmware doesn’t exist or its some other indication.

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        • Tom ElliottT
          Tom Elliott
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          You mind rerunning the installer? I’ve added the missing firmware to the kernel build.

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          • greyG
            grey @george1421
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            @george1421

            I just got a moment to do the same thing, heres more of the logfile,

            the devices stuff is difficult for me to interprete, the device i need to work is Broadcom 5720 DP 1Gb Network Interface * I think*

            Sep 15 22:44:45 fogclient user.info kernel: tg3 0000:02:00.1 eth5: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex
            Sep 15 22:44:45 fogclient user.info kernel: tg3 0000:02:00.1 eth5: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX
            Sep 15 22:44:45 fogclient user.info kernel: tg3 0000:02:00.1 eth5: EEE is disabled
            Sep 15 22:45:15 fogclient user.warn kernel: bnx2x 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw failed with error -2
            Sep 15 22:45:15 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_init_firmware:13444(eth0)]Can’t load firmware file bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw
            Sep 15 22:45:15 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_func_hw_init:5785(eth0)]Error loading firmware
            Sep 15 22:45:15 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_nic_load:2727(eth0)]HW init failed, aborting
            Sep 15 22:45:51 fogclient user.warn kernel: bnx2x 0000:04:00.1: Direct firmware load for bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw failed with error -2
            Sep 15 22:45:51 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_init_firmware:13444(eth1)]Can’t load firmware file bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw
            Sep 15 22:45:51 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_func_hw_init:5785(eth1)]Error loading firmware
            Sep 15 22:45:51 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_nic_load:2727(eth1)]HW init failed, aborting
            Sep 15 22:46:26 fogclient user.warn kernel: bnx2x 0000:05:00.0: Direct firmware load for bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw failed with error -2
            Sep 15 22:46:26 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_init_firmware:13444(eth2)]Can’t load firmware file bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw
            Sep 15 22:46:26 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_func_hw_init:5785(eth2)]Error loading firmware
            Sep 15 22:46:26 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_nic_load:2727(eth2)]HW init failed, aborting
            Sep 15 22:47:01 fogclient user.warn kernel: bnx2x 0000:05:00.1: Direct firmware load for bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw failed with error -2
            Sep 15 22:47:01 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_init_firmware:13444(eth3)]Can’t load firmware file bnx2x/bnx2x-e2-7.13.1.0.fw
            Sep 15 22:47:01 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_func_hw_init:5785(eth3)]Error loading firmware
            Sep 15 22:47:01 fogclient user.err kernel: bnx2x: [bnx2x_nic_load:2727(eth3)]HW init failed, aborting
            Sep 15 22:48:47 fogclient user.notice kernel: random: nonblocking pool is initialized
            Sep 15 22:49:12 fogclient user.info kernel: usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 3
            Sep 15 22:49:20 fogclient user.info kernel: usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
            Sep 15 22:49:20 fogclient user.info kernel: usb-storage 1-1.4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
            Sep 15 22:49:20 fogclient user.info kernel: scsi host6: usb-storage 1-1.4:1.0
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.notice kernel: scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk Cruzer Blade 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdi] 15630336 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 GB/7.45 GiB)
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdi] Write Protect is off
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.debug kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdi] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdi] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.info kernel: sdi: sdi1
            Sep 15 22:49:21 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdi] Attached SCSI removable disk
            Sep 15 22:49:27 fogclient auth.info sshd[4338]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
            Sep 15 22:53:32 fogclient daemon.info init: starting pid 4575, tty ‘/dev/tty0’: ‘-/bin/bash’
            Sep 15 22:57:49 fogclient user.info kernel: usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 5
            Sep 15 23:00:41 fogclient user.info kernel: usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
            Sep 15 23:00:41 fogclient user.info kernel: usb-storage 1-1.4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
            Sep 15 23:00:41 fogclient user.info kernel: scsi host7: usb-storage 1-1.4:1.0
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.notice kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk Cruzer Blade 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdj] 15630336 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 GB/7.45 GiB)
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdj] Write Protect is off
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.debug kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdj] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdj] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.info kernel: sdj: sdj1
            Sep 15 23:00:42 fogclient user.notice kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdj] Attached SCSI removable disk
            Sep 15 23:00:54 fogclient user.err kernel: FAT-fs (sdi1): unable

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            • greyG
              grey @Tom Elliott
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              @Tom-Elliott

              sure np

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              • george1421G
                george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
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                @Tom-Elliott said in bnx2x fails to load firmware on Dell R430:

                You mind rerunning the installer? I’ve added the missing firmware to the kernel build.

                So does that bring the current kernel to 4.7.4? Just for my knowledge.

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                • Tom ElliottT
                  Tom Elliott @george1421
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                  @george1421 No, it is the version of the current kernel (4.7.3) as on kernel.org

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                  • george1421G
                    george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
                    last edited by george1421

                    @Tom-Elliott Understood, thx.

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                    • greyG
                      grey @Tom Elliott
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                      @Tom-Elliott said in bnx2x fails to load firmware on Dell R430:

                      You mind rerunning the installer? I’ve added the missing firmware to the kernel build.

                      ok, re-installed fog rebooted on the new kernel, drivers loaded fine but all drivers say there is no link, although its running on a pxe kernel :-p. all the firmware errors are gone. I’m running out of time here today, but I’ll jump into tomorrow and see what the link issue is about. the debug kernel selection is still loading by default so i guess it will do that until i delete the task.

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                      • Tom ElliottT
                        Tom Elliott @grey
                        last edited by

                        @grey The phandle messages are non-impacting, and you can probably turn back down the loglevel. The drivers with no link simply means the kernel can’t find a corresponding device for the driver being loaded.

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                        • george1421G
                          george1421 Moderator @grey
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                          @grey Correct it will stay in debug capture until the capture completes or you cancel the task. its kind of handy for debugging your hardware.

                          As for the no link issue I would go back to the error logs on the FOS client. Also the lspci command (one of the switches) should show what kernel driver is managing which device.

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                            Sebastian Roth Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @grey said:

                            ok, re-installed fog rebooted on the new kernel, drivers loaded fine but all drivers say there is no link, although its running on a pxe kernel :-p.

                            As we can see from your earlier posts you have four NICs in that one server. Which one is connected and how often do you see the message “no link”??

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                            • greyG
                              grey @Sebastian Roth
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                              @Sebastian-Roth

                              ok PNX2X is the fiber ports so we can disregard them, oddly they where enumerated first so thats part of the problem as i thought the ethernet ports would be first, the TG3 driver is the ethernet port and the ones we are interested in. eth5 is the port thats active and does have link, although its not getting a DHCP assigment ( statically assigned to that mac ), even though at pexe boot it is.

                              Settings for eth1: PNX2X
                              Supported ports: [ FIBRE ]
                              Supported link modes: 1000baseT/Full
                              10000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
                              Supports auto-negotiation: No
                              Advertised link modes: 10000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: No
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: No
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: FIBRE
                              PHYAD: 1
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: off
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x00000000 (0)

                              Link detected: no
                              

                              Settings for eth2:PNX2X
                              Supported ports: [ FIBRE ]
                              Supported link modes: 1000baseT/Full
                              10000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
                              Supports auto-negotiation: No
                              Advertised link modes: 10000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: No
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: No
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: FIBRE
                              PHYAD: 1
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: off
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x00000000 (0)

                              Link detected: no
                              

                              Settings for eth3:PNX2X
                              Supported ports: [ FIBRE ]
                              Supported link modes: 1000baseT/Full
                              10000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
                              Supports auto-negotiation: No
                              Advertised link modes: 10000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: No
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: No
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: FIBRE
                              PHYAD: 1
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: off
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x00000000 (0)

                              Link detected: no
                              

                              Settings for eth4:
                              Supported ports: [ TP ]
                              Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: No
                              Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: Twisted Pair
                              PHYAD: 1
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: on
                              MDI-X: Unknown
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x000000ff (255)
                              drv probe link timer ifdown ifup rx_err tx_err
                              Link detected: no


                              Settings for eth5:
                              Supported ports: [ TP ]
                              Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: No
                              Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Full
                              Link partner advertised pause frame use: No
                              Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Speed: 1000Mb/s
                              Duplex: Full
                              Port: Twisted Pair
                              PHYAD: 2
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: on
                              MDI-X: off
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x000000ff (255)
                              drv probe link timer ifdown ifup rx_err tx_err
                              Link detected: yes


                              Settings for eth6:
                              Supported ports: [ TP ]
                              Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: No
                              Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: Twisted Pair
                              PHYAD: 1
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: on
                              MDI-X: Unknown
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x000000ff (255)
                              drv probe link timer ifdown ifup rx_err tx_err
                              Link detected: no


                              Settings for eth7:
                              Supported ports: [ TP ]
                              Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Supported pause frame use: No
                              Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
                              100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
                              1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
                              Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
                              Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
                              Speed: Unknown!
                              Duplex: Unknown! (255)
                              Port: Twisted Pair
                              PHYAD: 2
                              Transceiver: internal
                              Auto-negotiation: on
                              MDI-X: Unknown
                              Supports Wake-on: g
                              Wake-on: d
                              Current message level: 0x000000ff (255)
                              drv probe link timer ifdown ifup rx_err tx_err
                              Link detected: no

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                              • george1421G
                                george1421 Moderator
                                last edited by george1421

                                OK this is good promising news. eth5 is getting a link up but no IP address in FOS but you can pxe boot and iPXE is getting an IP address because the FOS kernel (bzImage) and VHD (init.xz) are being sent to the target computer. When we see this we typically see that spanning tree is turned on at the network switch. Spanning tree takes about 27 seconds for the port to start forwarding data. The FOS engine is so fast that it has already given up by the time spanning tree starts to forward data.

                                On these ports you need to enable one of the fast spanning tree prototocols (port fast, fast stp, rstp, or what ever your switch mfg calls it). A quick check to see if its a spanning tree issue is to put an unmanaged switch between the building switch and the target computer. This unmanaged switch keeps the port on the building switch from winking as the iPXE kernel hands off the network interface to the FOS engine.

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                                • greyG
                                  grey @george1421
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                                  @george1421 said in bnx2x fails to load firmware on Dell R430:

                                  OK this is good promising news. eth5 is getting a link up but no IP address in FOS but you can pxe boot and iPXE is getting an IP address because the FOS kernel (bzImage) and VHD (init.xz) are being sent to the target computer. When we see this we typically see that spanning tree is turned on at the network switch. Spanning tree takes about 27 seconds for the port to start forwarding data. The FOS engine is so fast that it has already given up by the time spanning tree starts to forward data.

                                  On these ports you need to enable one of the fast spanning tree prototocols (port fast, fast stp, rstp, or what ever your switch mfg calls it). A quick check to see if its a spanning tree issue is to put an unmanaged switch between the building switch and the target computer. This unmanaged switch keeps the port on the building switch from winking as the iPXE kernel hands off the network interface to the FOS engine.

                                  its a cisco so its port fast, i’ll check right now,

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                                  • george1421G
                                    george1421 Moderator
                                    last edited by george1421

                                    Also pondering this a bit more since your first (usable) interface is eth5 I can see another issue.

                                    @Developers Does the FOS engine stop enumerating the network adapter at eth1 or will it keep going until it finds a network adapter with a link up state to use? OR Is there a kernel parameter we can pass that says to use ethX as the FOS network interface?

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                                    • Tom ElliottT
                                      Tom Elliott @george1421
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                                      @george1421 It tries everything until it finds a link up I believe.

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                                        george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
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                                        @Tom-Elliott said in bnx2x fails to load firmware on Dell R430:

                                        @george1421 It tries everything until it finds a link up I believe.

                                        Great, I have never tried. But I just thought I can test this by creating a vm with 6 network adapters with eth5 being the only one connected. But I’m not sure if I can have it defined but not having the link up. I may have to play in my test lab later tonight.

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                                        • Tom ElliottT
                                          Tom Elliott @george1421
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                                          @george1421 Well it goes a bit further, if a link is up, but fails to get an ip, it will continue on as well, I believe.

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                                          • george1421G
                                            george1421 Moderator @Tom Elliott
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                                            @Tom-Elliott That one I can test by setting the interface to a vlan without a dhcp server. I will prove that one out for sure. The other one I’m not sure if I can have a “unplugged” interface but have it appear in linux with ESXi.

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