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      bmaster001 @Sebastian Roth
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      @Sebastian-Roth said in another init.xz issue:

      @bmaster001 While I am still unsure if those two topics are related I found that Could not select: Exec format error part very interesting. Lately we had at least two people who’s devices wouldn’t boot but print that message after loading the kernel/init.xz. In those cases it was some kind of security chip that needed to be disabled in the BIOS/UEFI firmware. See here and in the wiki. I really hope you find this to be the issue/solution. Otherwise we need to start unpacking the heavy tools for debugging this. Let me know.

      There are not many options in the bios (see screenshots). The “secure boot activation” is disabled (and grayed-out, so I can’t even activate it). Is that the option we are looking for?

      1_1465992475339_IMG_20160615_140221.jpg 0_1465992475338_IMG_20160615_140200.jpg

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        bmaster001 @Wayne Workman
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        @Wayne-Workman said in another init.xz issue:

        I think it’s kernel related because of the new hardware. Sounds like the kernel isn’t even starting right.

        Can you boot it to a live linux disk successfully? If you can, what is the output of lsblk and lspci ? You could also turn up fogs kernel debug level so that maybe we see some errors.

        Working on downloading some linux to try booting it from usb. Meanwhile, is turning up the kernel debug level something I can try easily?

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          Wayne Workman @bmaster001
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          @bmaster001 Understand this is only temporary, you’ll want to set it back to defaults afterwards.

          Web Interface -> FOG Configuration -> FOG Settings -> FOG Boot Settings -> FOG_KERNEL_DEBUG and FOG_KERNEL_LOGLEVEL

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            bmaster001 @Wayne Workman
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            @Wayne-Workman said in another init.xz issue:

            @bmaster001 Understand this is only temporary, you’ll want to set it back to defaults afterwards.

            Web Interface -> FOG Configuration -> FOG Settings -> FOG Boot Settings -> FOG_KERNEL_DEBUG and FOG_KERNEL_LOGLEVEL

            Ok, I did that. What should be the result? The capture-task hangs again at the same point (init.xz…ok). Nothing new is displayed during the process 😕

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              george1421 Moderator @bmaster001
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              @bmaster001 said in another init.xz issue:

              @george1421 said in another init.xz issue:

              What is your dhcp server?

              We use the dhcp server in pfsense 2.2.

              Sorry to get stuck on this, but you are sure in pfsense that you have the next server pointint to your new FOG server?

              I see there are three different models. Which one do you have? What OS did it come with.

              I don’t know where you see those 3 models, but we have a model with an Intel Atom E3826, 8 GB ram, and “Windows 7 Pro Emb” on it. The bios mentions “Phoenix SecureCore Technology”, and is at version HVM3036.

              It appears that there are different hardware configurations for the different OS versions (disk size and such). I got the impression that the CPU also changed with the OS (WinCE vs WinPro). But maybe I was mistaken.

              Don’t boot the system just yet. While I’m trying to find a use case for USB Booting FOS, I don’t think we are at that point just yet.

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                Wayne Workman @bmaster001
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                @bmaster001 Then that means the kernel isn’t even loading. You could try a different boot file.

                Can you not put this computer into BIOS mode somehow? I know computers are beginning to come out that are UEFI only, but if this machine can be set to BIOS and works that way, that’d be the route I’d recommend.

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                  bmaster001 @george1421
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                  Sorry to get stuck on this, but you are sure in pfsense that you have the next server pointint to your new FOG server?

                  Very sure 🙂 I get to the fog menu, and on our old server we added some items to the advanced part, and that menu-item didn’t show up with the newly installed fog. Also, see the following screenshot, where 10.1.6.51 is the ip of the new centos server:

                  0_1465994251908_IMG_20160615_075122.jpg

                  It appears that there are different hardware configurations for the different OS versions (disk size and such). I got the impression that the CPU also changed with the OS (WinCE vs WinPro). But maybe I was mistaken.
                  That’s very well possible. I wasn’t involved in the selection of the hardware, so I don’t know about the options. I’m just the guy that tries to get the imaging working 🙂

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                  • Tom ElliottT
                    Tom Elliott
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                    Can you try the ipxe.efi or ipxe.pxe file as the filename/option 66?

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                      bmaster001 @Wayne Workman
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                      @Wayne-Workman said in another init.xz issue:

                      @bmaster001 Then that means the kernel isn’t even loading. You could try a different boot file.

                      Can you not put this computer into BIOS mode somehow? I know computers are beginning to come out that are UEFI only, but if this machine can be set to BIOS and works that way, that’d be the route I’d recommend.

                      I tried disabling “uefi boot”: I then get some weird “boot menu” with no menu-items in it. I don’t really see any other option in the bios (maybe you see something on the screenshots that rings a bell?)

                      Another boot file? Not sure what you mean… please treat me like a newbie 🙂

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                        Tom Elliott @bmaster001
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                        @bmaster001 based on this replied post, it would appear to me the file you’re currently using is pxelinux.0 and not undionly it snp

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                          george1421 Moderator @bmaster001
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                          @bmaster001 I think what Tom’s asking is for you to…

                          No that’s not the case here. The OP has to be getting ipxe.efi or iPXE would not boot. You can not boot a bios iPXE kernel on a uefi system. It has to be some flavor of .efi kernel.

                          Tom: Would it say bzImage32 if fog sent the 32 bit version of FOS to the target? I still think there is something up with the hardware.

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                            bmaster001 @Tom Elliott
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                            @Tom-Elliott said in another init.xz issue:

                            @bmaster001 based on this replied post, it would appear to me the file you’re currently using is pxelinux.0 and not undionly it snp

                            I tried to put ipxe.efi in the filename, but that showed me the same boot-menu. When I disable uefi boot, it’s not even trying to network-boot. I get that boot-menu immediately after power-on. Nothing else is displayed.

                            I’m pretty sure that pfsense is setup correctly (see screenshot). 0_1465995258878_IMG_20160615_144702.jpg

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                              bmaster001 @Wayne Workman
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                              @Wayne-Workman said in another init.xz issue:

                              Can you boot it to a live linux disk successfully? If you can, what is the output of lsblk and lspci ? You could also turn up fogs kernel debug level so that maybe we see some errors.

                              I wrote Ubuntu on a usb stick, and tried booting. When I choose “try ubuntu” from the grub menu, the screen goes black, and stays black. So that doesn’t seem to work very well…

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                              • Tom ElliottT
                                Tom Elliott @george1421
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                                @george1421 I think it’s the boot file specifically.

                                I don’t know which one is working.

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                                  Sebastian Roth Moderator
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                                  @bmaster001 Great you posted the BIOS settings pictures. Try disabling the TPM Support completely!

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                                    george1421 Moderator @bmaster001
                                    last edited by george1421

                                    @bmaster001 After you follow Sebastian’s request to disable TPM all together, if it still is having trouble booting…

                                    I want you to try something. This is a bit self serving, but I’ve been working on a PXE less boot for the FOS engine (the software that runs on the target system that captures and deploys images). If you are willing to try, I would like you to build one and try to boot this device using a USB drive. If it doesn’t boot FOS then you are out of luck.

                                    I will send you a link to the image via IM. Of course I would be skeptical about some chap from the internet telling me to download and run something so the instructions for building it yourself are here: https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/7727/building-usb-booting-fos-image

                                    You can write the fos-usb.img file to usb using dd in linux or Win32DiskImager from sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager The image creation tool need to be run with “Run as Administrator” to have access to write the image to USB. You need a small USB for this 256MB or larger will work. The last thing you need to do is edit the file in \boot\grub\grub.cfg on the flash drive with Windows Write or better notepad++ (not MS notepad) and change the very first line so the ip address points to YOUR fog server.

                                    Now insert this usb into this target computer and boot from it. At the grub menu pick the very last item to launch the debug kernel. After a few seconds you should see some text, press enter twice and you should be at a command prompt. If you get here, then we can run some debug commands.

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                                      bmaster001
                                      last edited by bmaster001

                                      Disabling TPM does not change anything.

                                      Then, I tried your image. I see “loading the kernel”, “loading the virtual hard drive” and “booting the kernel…”. Then it halts. The TPM setting in the bios doesn’t change anything.

                                      I guess this is bad news… ?

                                      EDIT: When I disable “uefi boot” in the bios, I get more text, but it hangs again before I get a prompt (see screenshot below)
                                      EDIT2: After a few hours of searching, I found a driverset of the VM3 device. It seems that the NIC used here is some sort of USB network device. The readme.txt mentions LAN95XX. Don’t know if that might help debugging this? I tried booting with a ipxe.iso that I created on rom-o-matic.eu, with all network drivers, but it can’t find any NIC. So I guess this driver isn’t included (yet)…

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                                        Quazz Moderator @bmaster001
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                                        @bmaster001 You need to add a kernel argument to this host. I believe it’s hasusbnic=1

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                                        • Wayne WorkmanW
                                          Wayne Workman @Quazz
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                                          @Quazz It’s has_usb_nic=1

                                          Article about it:
                                          https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB_NIC_(usb_network_adapter)

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                                          • Tom ElliottT
                                            Tom Elliott
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                                            And it appears this is using a raid controller? Maybe change the BIOS hdd controller to AHCI or IDE, or set mdraid=true to the hosts kernel arguments.

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