Surface Pro 4 won't get to registration menu


  • Moderator

    @sarge_212 For the kernel update, your steps are how it works in the trunk build, I can’t say for sure in 1.2.0 since its been almost a year since I’ve personally ran that version. I would assume the kernel update function will only let you install the kernels specific to 1.2.0.

    As for the release date of 1.3.0. That is still in flux. There are no new features planned for 1.3.0 than what is in the current trunk build. The more people we can have test the trunk build and find the remaining bugs the faster the dev guys can finalize the system and then move on to fog (version next).



  • You guys rock, seriously. So I can use updated files in /tftpboot and keep other things the same? That is cool. I will download the trunk version today, install it, and scp those files or something over to that server. A small note, how does one go about updating the kernel? Wouldn’t that be done in the FOG web UI > FOG Configuration > Kernel update? Question there is, how do I know which one to choose, and how to tell currently what kernel I am using? Also, any ideas on when 1.3.0 will be released? Pure curiosity there. Thank you fine gentlemen again!


  • Senior Developer

    @george1421 all of the above would do, but only worry about the tftpboot files from trunk, too much else has changed to say just get all of them.

    Then, yes, update the kernels.


  • Moderator

    @Tom-Elliott (just trying to create a procedure around this)

    So just for clarity here, you are recommending the OP to:

    1. tar up the current /tftpboot files
    2. Download the current trunk files (or specifically the /tftpboot files
    3. Copy these files to the /tftboot directory on the FOG 1.2.0 server

    A also assume
    4) Update the kernels and inits for the newest ones supported under FOG 1.2.0 stable


  • Senior Developer

    @sarge_212 I think one of the biggest things to think is you’re now working with systems that were created AFTER 1.2.0’s release. While kernels are easily updated, and yes I think new kernels will be required, the fact is you’re not even getting that far. You’re still waiting for ipxe to catch up to download the files to get you into the imaging environment. So I would recommend updating your tftpboot files. The files I build in trunk versions should still work even in older versions of fog because the way these operate is unchanged between the different versions. While output may be vastly different the way the checks happen from ipxe to and from the fog server remains the same. So if updating the ipxe files still cause the same problem using the snponly file, maybe try one of the other .efi files?


  • Moderator

    While it would take a little time to setup. I still think seeing if the trunk version of FOG solves your problem. This would not be a second FOG server just a test system to ensure that the new inits work on the surface pro 4.

    The idea is if we have one set of inits that fail and another that works, then there is a path to see where things fall down. If the new inits work, but there is a technical issue with the older inits where they can’t be fixed then the answer will be to wait until fog 1.3.0 is release before you image these systems.

    I guess a question for the OP is, are you running the latest kernel and inits for the 1.2.0 build?



  • @sarge_212 The latest kernels would, but the latest inits would not. This is why the very latest kernels and inits are not listed in 1.2.0’s kernel update area.

    Knowing what you’re using is not as easy in 1.2.0. 1.3.0 you just go to fog configuration and it’s right there.

    I suppose you could do a debug upload or debug download, and at the CLI, you could issue commands to figure out what kernel is being used. uname -r is one command to do it, there are others.



  • Wayne,

    I appreciate the feedback and I’m not trying to be a stickler. However, the “powers at be” would prefer only one FOG server in production. Will the latest kernel work with FOG 1.2.0 as well as this shiny Surface Pro 4? Also a side note, how do I tell what kernel I’m currently using? Thank you again, and FOG really does rock it.



  • @sarge_212 said:

    we’re up for trying most anything EXCEPT upgrading to trunk

    Ouch. Why?

    we would like to continue using the stable version of FOG.

    You don’t have to tear down your old server. Leave it be, set up a 2nd fog server. Don’t touch your DHCP settings either. If you want a single client to use the new server (like the ethernet adapter you have), just create a DHCP reservation for that MAC address, and set the reservation to use the new server’s IP address for option 066. That’s it.

    And obviously there are a thousand other solutions too that work around your old server. Like setting up a fog server on an isolated network (aka just a mini switch) - believe it or not, this is more difficult to do.


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