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    • M
      mkstreet
      last edited by

      I am not sure I am putting this in the correct forum, so I apologize if I have placed this incorrectly.

      I’ve just gone to Fog V1.2.0 and I haven’t deployed yet to the whole lab.
      I’ve built my one Windows 7 machine that I will upload to Fog to be my master image for the lab.

      I’ve noticed the following situation:

      1. If the client PC starts to boot, I can hit the escape key and the BIOS will stop looking for PXE. It will then boot as normal into Windows 7 from the HDD. All good and happy.

      2. If Fog is running and I don’t press escape for BIOS to exit its PXE boot attempt, then the Fog PXE menu comes up. The first option is boot from the hard disk and there is a countdown timer until it takes that default action. If I just wait and let the timer run out, the PXE menu gets cleared off the screen and it goes to black. The cursor stays in the upper left hand corner of the screen and blinks. And nothing further happens, ever. No Windows startup, no error. End of the line.

      3. No, I haven’t manually chosen option 1 from the PXE menu to see if manually choosing menu option 1 (boot from HDD) has a different effect than letting the countdown timer run out.

      So, I’m not sure what to do to investigate this or resolve it.

      Thanks much in advance!

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      Fog Server:
      O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
      Fog Software: v3121

      Deploy Computers:
      O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
      HDD: about 300 GB

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        Sebastian Roth Moderator
        last edited by

        Web interface -> FOG Configuration -> PXE Boot Menu -> Exit to Hard Drive Type

        Default is ‘Sanboot style’. Try other settings an see if this solves your issue…

        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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          mkstreet
          last edited by

          That fixed it, thanks. There are only two options, sanboot and grub. Grub worked.

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          Fog Server:
          O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
          Fog Software: v3121

          Deploy Computers:
          O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
          HDD: about 300 GB

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            mkstreet
            last edited by

            Ooops. Shame on me. I spoke too soon. Neither value of Sanboot nor Grub for EXIT TO HARD DRIVE TYPE works.

            However, I did get it to work if I choose NO MENU on that same iPXE boot menu configuration page… hmmm???

            ++ ++ ++ ++
            Fog Server:
            O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
            Fog Software: v3121

            Deploy Computers:
            O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
            HDD: about 300 GB

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            • Wayne WorkmanW
              Wayne Workman
              last edited by

              What model is the host you’re testing on?

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                mkstreet
                last edited by

                The same hardware I used to use with Fog v.032 and then it worked no problem.
                Here is the host info from the Fog v1.2.0 inventory:

                System Manufacturer LENOVO
                System Product 3554CTO
                System Version ThinkCentre M72z
                System Serial Number PBG8GDL
                System Type Type: Desktop
                BIOS Vendor LENOVO
                BIOS Version F6KT32AUS
                BIOS Date 09/03/2013
                Motherboard Manufacturer LENOVO
                Motherboard Product Name MAHOBAY
                Motherboard Version NOK
                Motherboard Serial Number
                Motherboard Asset Tag
                CPU Manufacturer Intel® Corporation
                CPU Version Intel® Core™ i5-3470S CPU @ 2.90GHz
                CPU Normal Speed Current Speed: 2900 MHz
                CPU Max Speed Max Speed: 2900 MHz
                Memory 3.68 GB
                Hard Disk Model WDC WD10EZEX-08RKKA0
                Hard Disk Firmware 80.00A80
                Hard Disk Serial Number WD-WCC1S6814856
                Chassis Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
                Chassis Version
                Chassis Serial PBG8GDL
                Chassis Asset

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                Fog Server:
                O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                Fog Software: v3121

                Deploy Computers:
                O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                HDD: about 300 GB

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                • Wayne WorkmanW
                  Wayne Workman
                  last edited by

                  I’ve been having the blues with Lenovo ThinkCenters at work recently…

                  Thus far, undionly.kkpxe and r3277 fixed it as far as I can tell.
                  It’s worth a try, for sure. Turn your menu back on and see how it goes.

                  For more information on that, see this thread: [url]http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/lenovo-mt-m-9964-a1u-cant-register-fails-compatibility-test.12766/[/url]

                  Also, you’re particular model is listed in WorkingDevices using undionly.kpxe as of late last year: [url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingDevices[/url]

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                    mkstreet
                    last edited by

                    Hmmm… okay… These Lenovos worked perfectly fine under Fog 0.32…

                    but what do I need to do to try “…undionly.kkpxe and r3277…”?

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                    Fog Server:
                    O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                    Fog Software: v3121

                    Deploy Computers:
                    O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                    HDD: about 300 GB

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                    • Wayne WorkmanW
                      Wayne Workman
                      last edited by

                      You could just swap your boot file for now to undionly.kkpxe.

                      If that doesn’t work, I’d recommend trying the latest revision.

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                        mkstreet
                        last edited by

                        Umm… sorry for being dense… but is “undionly.kkpxe” something I download from the fogprohect.org website or ??

                        Next, when you say try the latest revision, you mean the most current release of Fog itself, right? I’m fine with doing that, if that is a better way.

                        ++ ++ ++ ++
                        Fog Server:
                        O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                        Fog Software: v3121

                        Deploy Computers:
                        O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                        HDD: about 300 GB

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                        • Tom ElliottT
                          Tom Elliott
                          last edited by

                          undionly.kkpxe should already exist in your fogserver’s /tftpboot directory.

                          Either make a copy of this file as your current undionly.kpxe[code]mv /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe_orig
                          cp /tftpboot/undionly.kkpxe /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe[/code] OR Edit your DHCP servers Option 67/Filename to look at undionly.kkpxe.

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                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                            mkstreet
                            last edited by

                            Ok. I will try that in the morning. I will do the mv/cp way.
                            Do I need to restart anything to have this take effect?

                            ++ ++ ++ ++
                            Fog Server:
                            O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                            Fog Software: v3121

                            Deploy Computers:
                            O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                            HDD: about 300 GB

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                            • Wayne WorkmanW
                              Wayne Workman
                              last edited by

                              [quote=“mkstreet, post: 45916, member: 24215”]Ok. I will try that in the morning. I will do the mv/cp way.
                              Do I need to restart anything to have this take effect?[/quote]

                              Nope.

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                                mkstreet
                                last edited by

                                Ok.

                                I did the mv/cp for the kpxe/kkxe. Here are the results:

                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=Sanboot
                                Result: after PXE menu, black screen with just an underline-style cursor blinking in the upper left corner

                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=GRUB style
                                Result: after PXE menu, black screen with just an underline-style cursor blinking in the upper left corner

                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=Exit Style (i.e. unselected)
                                Result: after PXE menu, black screen that says: Exiting PXE-M0F ROM and then the underline-style cursor blinking

                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=**checked
                                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=(any value)
                                Result: after PXE menu, Windows boots and it’s happy

                                Again, did I mention that this host worked just fine with Fog V0.32 ?

                                ++ ++ ++ ++
                                Fog Server:
                                O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                Fog Software: v3121

                                Deploy Computers:
                                O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                HDD: about 300 GB

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                                • Tom ElliottT
                                  Tom Elliott
                                  last edited by

                                  This looks to me like GPT structures are on the disk still, but the disk type is expecting to be MBR Only. Essentially, it looks like the system is trying to boot UEFI, but you can’t exit back to UEFI from a legacy system, nor can you jump to legacy from a UEFI setup.

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                                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                                    Wayne Workman
                                    last edited by

                                    So, you basically need to play around in the firmware settings on the system, I think.

                                    Look at your HDD mode, BIOS vs UEFI, Legacy ROM support, things like that. Play around with it.

                                    From my experience, sanboot works for the handful of machine types in my building.

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                                      mkstreet
                                      last edited by

                                      I looked and these are the only BIOS things that seem like they might have something to do with it.

                                      Under ATA DRIVE SETUP:

                                      1. SATA controller = Enabled
                                      2. Configure SATA as= AHCI

                                      Under STARTUP:

                                      1. Boot Mode
                                        The description says: Sets the boot policy as to whether to try Legacy Boot devices first or UEFI Boot options.
                                        The value is “AUTO”, which is says will prioritize as: UEFI, Legacy

                                      2. Boot Priority
                                        The value is “Legacy First”, which it says means “the system will try to boot legacy OS first and then UEFI”

                                      ++ ++ ++ ++
                                      Fog Server:
                                      O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                      Fog Software: v3121

                                      Deploy Computers:
                                      O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                      HDD: about 300 GB

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                                        mkstreet
                                        last edited by

                                        If I change the BOOT MODE from AUTO to Legacy or UEFI, then the BOOT PRIORITY disappears from the BIOS menu.
                                        If I change the BOOT PRIORITY to UEFI, it goes into a rebooting loop.

                                        I’ve changed it back, and I also moved the origin kpxe file back… but now the situation is worse.
                                        After the Fog PXE menu, it goes to a black screen with cursor and the error beep starts beeping in a constant stream and nothing happens after that.

                                        Even now when I do the NO MENU option, I can no longer get it to boot after PXE.
                                        If I hit ESC to abandon PXE, then it will boot to Windows and is happy.

                                        As far as PXE Fog Menu, I’ve gone from something that was not ideal but functional by specifying NO MENU…to now something that is non-functional.

                                        ++ ++ ++ ++
                                        Fog Server:
                                        O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                        Fog Software: v3121

                                        Deploy Computers:
                                        O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                        HDD: about 300 GB

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                                        • Wayne WorkmanW
                                          Wayne Workman
                                          last edited by

                                          You may have made a mistake copying the old undionly.kpxe back into it’s place.
                                          The command should have been:
                                          [CODE]cp /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe_orig /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe[/CODE]

                                          And, you played around in the firmware, so maybe resetting it to defaults might help too.

                                          additionally, if you’re brave, you might try the undionly.kpxe file from FOG 0.32 and see if the menu works then.
                                          You’ll have to download it (or pull it from your old FOG server), extract that single file, and place it into your current FOG’s tftpboot directory… Maybe you’ll have luck? I’d recommend re-naming the old file to something like undionly-old.kpxe

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                                            mkstreet
                                            last edited by

                                            I didn’t make a mistake in the copying. I looked at the directory and the file that is undionly.kpxe matches (in number of bytes) to undionly.kpxe_orig, and those two are different in number of bytes from undionly.kkxe.

                                            In the firmware, I only changed the BOOT PRIORITY and BOOT MODE values. Nothing else. I’ve restored those to their original values.

                                            So, … I guess the only remaining thing is for me to be brave?

                                            ++ ++ ++ ++
                                            Fog Server:
                                            O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                            Fog Software: v3121

                                            Deploy Computers:
                                            O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                            HDD: about 300 GB

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