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    PXE Menu Problem - timeout and boot from HDD (menu option 1) -- doesn't happen

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    • Wayne WorkmanW
      Wayne Workman
      last edited by

      You could just swap your boot file for now to undionly.kkpxe.

      If that doesn’t work, I’d recommend trying the latest revision.

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        mkstreet
        last edited by

        Umm… sorry for being dense… but is “undionly.kkpxe” something I download from the fogprohect.org website or ??

        Next, when you say try the latest revision, you mean the most current release of Fog itself, right? I’m fine with doing that, if that is a better way.

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        • Tom ElliottT
          Tom Elliott
          last edited by

          undionly.kkpxe should already exist in your fogserver’s /tftpboot directory.

          Either make a copy of this file as your current undionly.kpxe[code]mv /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe_orig
          cp /tftpboot/undionly.kkpxe /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe[/code] OR Edit your DHCP servers Option 67/Filename to look at undionly.kkpxe.

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            mkstreet
            last edited by

            Ok. I will try that in the morning. I will do the mv/cp way.
            Do I need to restart anything to have this take effect?

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            Fog Server:
            O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
            Fog Software: v3121

            Deploy Computers:
            O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
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            • Wayne WorkmanW
              Wayne Workman
              last edited by

              [quote=“mkstreet, post: 45916, member: 24215”]Ok. I will try that in the morning. I will do the mv/cp way.
              Do I need to restart anything to have this take effect?[/quote]

              Nope.

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                mkstreet
                last edited by

                Ok.

                I did the mv/cp for the kpxe/kkxe. Here are the results:

                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=Sanboot
                Result: after PXE menu, black screen with just an underline-style cursor blinking in the upper left corner

                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=GRUB style
                Result: after PXE menu, black screen with just an underline-style cursor blinking in the upper left corner

                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=unchecked
                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=Exit Style (i.e. unselected)
                Result: after PXE menu, black screen that says: Exiting PXE-M0F ROM and then the underline-style cursor blinking

                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=**checked
                Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=(any value)
                Result: after PXE menu, Windows boots and it’s happy

                Again, did I mention that this host worked just fine with Fog V0.32 ?

                ++ ++ ++ ++
                Fog Server:
                O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                Fog Software: v3121

                Deploy Computers:
                O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                HDD: about 300 GB

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                • Tom ElliottT
                  Tom Elliott
                  last edited by

                  This looks to me like GPT structures are on the disk still, but the disk type is expecting to be MBR Only. Essentially, it looks like the system is trying to boot UEFI, but you can’t exit back to UEFI from a legacy system, nor can you jump to legacy from a UEFI setup.

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                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                    Wayne Workman
                    last edited by

                    So, you basically need to play around in the firmware settings on the system, I think.

                    Look at your HDD mode, BIOS vs UEFI, Legacy ROM support, things like that. Play around with it.

                    From my experience, sanboot works for the handful of machine types in my building.

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                      mkstreet
                      last edited by

                      I looked and these are the only BIOS things that seem like they might have something to do with it.

                      Under ATA DRIVE SETUP:

                      1. SATA controller = Enabled
                      2. Configure SATA as= AHCI

                      Under STARTUP:

                      1. Boot Mode
                        The description says: Sets the boot policy as to whether to try Legacy Boot devices first or UEFI Boot options.
                        The value is “AUTO”, which is says will prioritize as: UEFI, Legacy

                      2. Boot Priority
                        The value is “Legacy First”, which it says means “the system will try to boot legacy OS first and then UEFI”

                      ++ ++ ++ ++
                      Fog Server:
                      O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                      Fog Software: v3121

                      Deploy Computers:
                      O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                      HDD: about 300 GB

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                        mkstreet
                        last edited by

                        If I change the BOOT MODE from AUTO to Legacy or UEFI, then the BOOT PRIORITY disappears from the BIOS menu.
                        If I change the BOOT PRIORITY to UEFI, it goes into a rebooting loop.

                        I’ve changed it back, and I also moved the origin kpxe file back… but now the situation is worse.
                        After the Fog PXE menu, it goes to a black screen with cursor and the error beep starts beeping in a constant stream and nothing happens after that.

                        Even now when I do the NO MENU option, I can no longer get it to boot after PXE.
                        If I hit ESC to abandon PXE, then it will boot to Windows and is happy.

                        As far as PXE Fog Menu, I’ve gone from something that was not ideal but functional by specifying NO MENU…to now something that is non-functional.

                        ++ ++ ++ ++
                        Fog Server:
                        O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                        Fog Software: v3121

                        Deploy Computers:
                        O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                        HDD: about 300 GB

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                        • Wayne WorkmanW
                          Wayne Workman
                          last edited by

                          You may have made a mistake copying the old undionly.kpxe back into it’s place.
                          The command should have been:
                          [CODE]cp /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe_orig /tftpboot/undionly.kpxe[/CODE]

                          And, you played around in the firmware, so maybe resetting it to defaults might help too.

                          additionally, if you’re brave, you might try the undionly.kpxe file from FOG 0.32 and see if the menu works then.
                          You’ll have to download it (or pull it from your old FOG server), extract that single file, and place it into your current FOG’s tftpboot directory… Maybe you’ll have luck? I’d recommend re-naming the old file to something like undionly-old.kpxe

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                            mkstreet
                            last edited by

                            I didn’t make a mistake in the copying. I looked at the directory and the file that is undionly.kpxe matches (in number of bytes) to undionly.kpxe_orig, and those two are different in number of bytes from undionly.kkxe.

                            In the firmware, I only changed the BOOT PRIORITY and BOOT MODE values. Nothing else. I’ve restored those to their original values.

                            So, … I guess the only remaining thing is for me to be brave?

                            ++ ++ ++ ++
                            Fog Server:
                            O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                            Fog Software: v3121

                            Deploy Computers:
                            O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                            HDD: about 300 GB

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                            • Wayne WorkmanW
                              Wayne Workman
                              last edited by

                              Something else must have been done…

                              It doesn’t just break. If you set everything back the way it was, it should work as it did before.

                              Did it work with undionly.kkpxe ?

                              Remember this post ??

                              Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.No-Menu=**checked
                              Fog PXE Boot Menu Configuration.Exit-to-hard-drive-type=(any value)
                              Result: after PXE menu, Windows boots and it’s happy

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                              • Tom ElliottT
                                Tom Elliott
                                last edited by

                                If it is prioritizing the mode as uefi then legacy but booting to legacy first, change the mode back to legacy. Sure you lose the priority because you’ve implicitly set it so there is no priority to use. I don’t know if it will make the system work but this, for now, seems the best starting point.

                                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG! Get in contact with me (chat bubble in the top right corner) if you want to join in.

                                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                • M
                                  mkstreet
                                  last edited by

                                  Honestly, I took a siesta for about 2 hours. Then went into Fog to the IPXE Boot Menu config and just did an update without changing any values (i.e. still said NO MENU). Went to the Com Lab and it worked just like it did before. I think I will be happy with NO MENU and not try to improve on this.

                                  ++ ++ ++ ++
                                  Fog Server:
                                  O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                  Fog Software: v3121

                                  Deploy Computers:
                                  O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                  HDD: about 300 GB

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                                  • Wayne WorkmanW
                                    Wayne Workman
                                    last edited by

                                    Isn’t the menu required to register at the host? Or did you change it to do quick-register for anything that isn’t registered?

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                                      mkstreet
                                      last edited by

                                      I’ve left the PXE menu activated to register everything to begin with during my deploy period.
                                      But for my use/production period, I will have it as NO MENU.

                                      ++ ++ ++ ++
                                      Fog Server:
                                      O/S Ubuntu V14.0x, 64-bit
                                      Fog Software: v3121

                                      Deploy Computers:
                                      O/S Windows 7, 64 bit
                                      HDD: about 300 GB

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