Unable to boot to some PXE ROM
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Update:
I gather what you are saying Tom. Many don’t even know what exactly is a BIOS and the differences between a BIOS and CMOS. Most people that build computers just put pieces together but “COMPUTER’S BUILDERS” or “GAMERS” will know more about the hardware than many people that fix computers. That is because they base performance on many low level information. However, I still see your point.
Created and image with RAW and when it was reimage to same machine from which the image was created; the image was corrupted. I am starting to give up on FOG supporting Windows 8. I have invested a week so far in this issue and have not answers to any of my questions. I will be moving forward with a different solution for Window 8. At this point the question rises; will FOG support Windows 10? As it has been noted those operating systems are base on Windows 7 but they are totally different animals.
For now I am done with this post.I want to thanks everyone that tried or try to assists.
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In my experience “COMPUTER’S BUILDERS” and “GAMERS” know far less about computers then what they think they know. They know the benchmark stats on the latest-and-greatest hardware, but very little about how computers actually work. They base performance assumptions on low level information that they don’t understand.
Fog supports and flawlessly deploys every version of windows to date and has been tested against the windows 10 technical preview.
Fog does have some gaps in it’s support, like UEFI and quirks with the client software, but they are actively being worked on. -
[quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40846, member: 21583”]In my experience “COMPUTER’S BUILDERS” and “GAMERS” know far less about computers then what they think they know. They know the benchmark stats on the latest-and-greatest hardware, but very little about how computers actually work. They base performance assumptions on low level information that they don’t understand.
Fog supports and flawlessly deploys every version of windows to date and has been tested against the windows 10 technical preview.
Fog does have some gaps in it’s support, like UEFI and quirks with the client software, but they are actively being worked on.[/quote]There are all kind of test in the Internet most of them are pay-driven test for sale (advertising). I am not sure what kind of gamers you know but the one I relate and I play with are very savvy on hardware, including chipsets, front and side buss, transfer rate, memory access, CPU cache size (type of memory) direct and indirect buss communication and more. Perhaps they are not real gamers as they say.
I have installed Windows 8 on three different systems and the only one that works was an old HP Compaq DX2400 series that uses old BIOS with limited configuration.The BIOS is an old AMI Ver. 02.61 that when I installed Windows 8 and Windows 10 it works wonderfully. But when I go and install the same OS on newer systems it just don’t work. I even installed in a Lenovo B50 (make and model) and still no go. I have configured the BIOS and disable security and enable legacy and still fails. However, if I do it with Acronis it works just fine. That said, I am not sure at this point what is wrong. I will try Ghost and see if that give any hassle.
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Look,
Knowing the BIOS and the Motherboard isn’t helpful. One because that motherboard could potentially be on any system which would easily be overlooked.
Based on the image name in your previous posts, my guess for the (simple question I guess that’s just been overlooked here) make and model is:
Acer ventron 2611
See how hard that was?
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I updated to the latest Kernel that is available and I’m still unable to pxe boot to Dell Optiplex 740’s. It works perfectly fine on models 755 and up but it just won’t work on the 740’s. Besides the kernel update is there anything else I can try?
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I don’t understand what the Kernel has to do with PXE boot files.
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I read in other forum posts that updating the kernel fixed pxe booting for certain models of PC’s. I thought I would try it see if it would work for me. Unfortunately it did not.
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Can you try the undionly.kkpxe boot file instead of the undionly.kpxe?
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[LEFT]That got it to work. Thank you. My reasoning behind why I thought the kernel’s would help was because the kernels contain the bzImage files that go into the pxe service.[/LEFT]
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What?
bzImage is loaded by the ipxe file after things are happening.
bzImage is after pxe service and is at the OS layer.
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[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40893, member: 7271”]Can you try the undionly.kkpxe boot file instead of the undionly.kpxe?[/quote]
This is an interesting point. I have a DD-WRT router that directs to the FOG server, however, it doesn’t matter which image I use to try to boot as always redirect to to the default. Is that what has to happen?
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The default.ipxe file is a generated file that tells the undionly where to get it’s information. All systems will always search for this file based on the proper setup. If some systems are failing with .kpxe, using the .kkpxe should correct that, but I guess I’m at a loss as to what the problem is.
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[quote=“Wolfbane8653, post: 40748, member: 3362”]Um would this help at all?
"[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]1. Enter Bios from startscreen (Delete)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]2. Select “Authentication” (right key)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]3. Select “Secure Boot” and set it to Disabled[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]4. Select “Boot Option” (right key)[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]5. Select “Launch CSM” and set it to Allways[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]*1 [6. Select “Boot Menu” and set it to Enabled][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][7. Select DVD, Removable Device or LAN as 1. Boot Device][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]Press F10 and Yes[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS]*1 [Press F12 from startscreen to select Boot Menu][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]NB!! Remember to set back 3 and 5 when you are finished another boot device.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=#000000]Regards[SIZE=14px]" ~[/SIZE][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#141414][url]http://community.acer.com/t5/Desktops-All-In-Ones/Aspire-5600U-Bios/td-p/201413[/url][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/quote]
This is similar to what I do with the Lenovo, however, on the the one I am having the issue there is very limited what I can do with it. As you can see my configuration is very close to your but with less features.
Here are some screenshots:[url=“/_imported_xf_attachments/1/1608_IMAG0322.jpg?:”]IMAG0322.jpg[/url][url=“/_imported_xf_attachments/1/1609_IMAG0323.jpg?:”]IMAG0323.jpg[/url]
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Hi Tom:
I am trying to give as much information as possible but, I am where you are. I am not sure what is going on. I am only getting it with Windows 8.1 when it is manually installed. Please see the update below, perhaps that can provide more information.
Update:
I am diagnosing what the system is doing and paying attention today, I don’t think it is the PXE boot process as I am able to boot all the way to the FOG menu when there is not task pending. I am starting to think the issue is actually with something else as I can see also the FOG logo right before the Created By comes up. It actually list the operating system, CPU, file type and even it mounts the file system. Then it move to checking the file system then to preparing backup location all the way to Using Hard Disk: /dev/sda and then it just sit there. Here is the big question, what is it loading at this point? -
It sounds like you are trying to do MBR style image setup, but there’s likely still GPT structures on the disk.
If you would, you could recreate the upload task, but enable it as a Debug task. If you’re on the Latest SVN (sorry I forget which specific rev that I added this feature) it’s as simple as clicking the checkbox for Schedule task as a debug task. Then you can boot the client and be brought to a prompt. You would then run fixparts /dev/sda. Confirm the settings as needed and then run the command: fog. It should go through the processes although you will have to press enter a whole bunch of times.
If you’re running a released version (i.e. FOG 1.2.0, FOG 1.10, etc…) you can do the same type of thing, but you have a few extra steps rather than just clicking a checkbox. You would select the host, choose Basic Tasks, then click on Advanced Tasks. You will see a tasking in that area that displays Upload - Debug.
Hopefully this part helps.
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If you’re able to, can you please upgrade to trunk? I know this isn’t recommended as “production quality” but I’ve attempted to add in an auto-fixparts capable system. While I don’t know 100% it will work, I do need some testers. The information I gave above is still valid should the init fail to do it directly, but I’m hoping for a miracle that might help Many more users including yourself.
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[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40980, member: 7271”]
If you would, you could recreate the upload task, but enable it as a Debug task. If you’re on the Latest SVN (sorry I forget which specific rev that I added this feature).Hopefully this part helps.[/quote]
Here is probably where I am going to need lots of help. I am not sure what is the SVN or how to even download/install it on the system. If you can kindly provide me with a brief on how to I will be more than glad to proceed so. I am using FOG 1.2.0 so far.
The other thing that comes to mind is to rebuild the machine again from scratch and see if it will upload the file. I don’t think I have tried that route and as you mention I might have some GPT. I will low format the drive and do it all over again just to make sure it is doing it from scratch.
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[quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40985, member: 7271”]If you’re able to, can you please upgrade to trunk?[/quote]
Absolutely!!! I can do anything with the system but, how? What do I need to do to upgrade the trunk? I think this is part also of the SVN which I know nothing about it. Any help appreciated.
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[quote=“DarkEnergy, post: 41015, member: 26785”]Absolutely!!! I can do anything with the system but, how? What do I need to do to upgrade the trunk? I think this is part also of the SVN which I know nothing about it. Any help appreciated.[/quote]
[url]http://fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_to_trunk[/url]
