In need of a working Kernel

Adam Kelsey · Sep 13, 2013, 7:00 PM

Hello!

I’m brand new to these forums but I’ve been lurking for some time to figure out issues every once in a while and I’ve found this forum to be a valuable resource.

My issue is that I have a few Toshiba Satellite C855-S5346 laptops that boot to FOG but hang before the kernel finishes loading. These are fairly new Windows 8 laptops but they clearly aren’t optimized for an enterprise environment. I’ve tried multiple kernels with no luck still and Administration over here is getting a bit impatient…

Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as a Kernel that may work? I’m not very good with Linux so I wouldn’t even know where to begin to create a custom Kernel but if there are any resources available as far as How-To’s I wouldn’t be against trying.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide.

chad-bisd · Sep 13, 2013, 7:03 PM

Tom Elliot has posted a generic “everything networking” kernel in several of his posts. Also, if you post the specs, such as video and LAN chipsets, we might be better able to help.

Adam Kelsey · Sep 13, 2013, 7:30 PM

Thanks!

I found Tom’s custom kernel so I’ll give that a shot. If it doesn’t work I’ll report back with needed specs.

Adam Kelsey · Sep 13, 2013, 7:58 PM

No luck with Tom’s kernel unfortunately…

Processor and Graphics
Intel Celeron
Processor 847 1.1 GHz, 2MB Cache

Mobile Intel NM70 Express Chipset Mobile Intel HD graphics

LAN
Qualcomm Atheros AR8162/8166/8168

Upon attempting to register hosts I get the message “Inappropriate ioctl for device”

Tom Elliott · Sep 13, 2013, 8:03 PM

Lemme guess you’re using fog 0.33?

Adam Kelsey · Sep 13, 2013, 8:18 PM

I’m actually on 0.32.

Tom Elliott · Sep 13, 2013, 8:34 PM

Ioctl isn’t usually a kernel issue by itself. It usually means a device was found under the kernel but can’t be mounted as it truly doesn’t exist. The hang on upload is usually its unable to communicate with the database. When I get home in about two hours I’ll look more to help you out.

Tom Elliott · Sep 13, 2013, 8:36 PM

Try checking compatibility first. Also I’ll post the link to my core kernel as it could very well be that. It should be [url]HTTPS://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImageCORE[/url]

chad-bisd · Sep 13, 2013, 9:13 PM

Compatibility check is inside the client system information task from the pxe boot menu. I don’t know if you’ll be able to get there since the kernel can’t finish loading. These are not secure-boot enabled are they? Is the BIOS set to legacy bios or EUFI?

Adam Kelsey · Sep 13, 2013, 9:29 PM

The BIOS is set to legacy and the PXE menu does boot thankfully. After checking fog compatibility it returns HDD: Pass, Network: Fail. I’m going to try the core kernel Tom posted and see if that makes any difference.

EDIT
Tried the core kernel, no difference, same error unfortunately.

Tom Elliott · Sep 14, 2013, 12:32 AM

What kernel did you try before?

Did you try the bzImageALLNET kernel?

[url]https://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImageALLNET[/url]

This should have all possible linux drivers of network adapters.

Adam Kelsey · Sep 16, 2013, 3:43 PM

Sweet, it works!

Thanks Tom and Chad for all your help and the super quick responses!

Tom- I tried a kernel that I found in a thread you posted in after searching. Clearly it wasn’t the same kernel Chad suggested earlier in this thread so thanks for linking it directly.

Tom Elliott · Sep 16, 2013, 5:09 PM

No problem.

From now on, my kernels will all be based on Core with AllNet drivers attached.

Gilou · Nov 20, 2013, 8:19 PM

I’m feeling like trying something, but well. Has anyone tried compiling buildroot & the kernel on 64 bits. FOG as it is would benefit a lot from it, on system with more than 4 GB RAM, especially for the upload process… Any input on that?
I’ll see how long it takes to make buildroot & the kernel 64 bits, see how that goes…

David Ekstrom · Nov 21, 2013, 3:57 PM

Just received a new Lenovo T440p laptop that I’m trying to get to register. I’ve tried the following kernels:

3.8.8. - Newest from Kernel Updater in FOG 0.32
KitchenSink kernel
ALLNET - from the link in this thread
CORE - from the link in this thread

Each of these will boot to the initial FOG Menu, but when I choose Client System Information, various things happen. Most hang the machine with errors (see below). The only one that I can actually get to the menu of options to check FOG Compatibility is the kitchensink kernel - this one results in the same error above, network test failed.

The others stop before it gets there with errors:

acpiphp_ibm: ibm_acpiphp_init: acpi_walk_namespace failed
cr_bllcd: INTEL CARILLO RANCH LPC not found
nvidiafb: unable to setup MTRR

Any ideas?

Tom Elliott · Nov 21, 2013, 4:17 PM

Some times it takes a while for the kernel to load as it’s checking the system and loading all the drivers to ram after processing. Try again with the [url]https://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImage[/url]. It can take upwards of 3 minutes depending on the system, but I can pretty much assure you it will be fine.

The error’s you’re seeing are normal meaning the kernel has drivers for those devices, but it can’t find the device itself.

David Ekstrom · Nov 22, 2013, 2:51 AM

Still didn’t get to the Client System Info menu.

Loads bzimage fine
Loads init.gz fine
Then displays the acpi namespace error and just hangs there

Tom Elliott · Nov 22, 2013, 11:46 AM

David,

How long are you waiting before you’re deciding that the system is hung? The only output you’re getting now is: [QUOTE]acpiphp_ibm: ibm_acpiphp_init: acpi_walk_namespace failed[/QUOTE]

How do you know it’s hung for sure? Also, can you possible post, when the system is hung, your FOG Server’s apache error log?
On Ubuntu/Debian based systems this log is generally located at /var/log/apache2/error.log
On CentOS/Fedora/RedHat based systems this log is generally located at /var/log/httpd/error_log

I still have a sneaky suspicion that you’re just not waiting long enough. It’s actually quite common not to see anything happen for some period of time. 10 minutes might be too long but ~ 1-5 minutes could be expected. I only averaged that out to around 3 minutes before because that’s about what I see on some of my systems, but it does continue on.

David Ekstrom · Nov 22, 2013, 2:33 PM

The machine is still hung this morning…Here is some of the entries in the error log.

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 7, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 11, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 15, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 19, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 23, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined index: update in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.fogsettings.include.php on line 24, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: id in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 38, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: host in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 66, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined index: about in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 405, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: output in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 463, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

[Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined property: FOGSubMenu::$notes in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 473, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

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