In need of a working Kernel



  • Hello!

    I’m brand new to these forums but I’ve been lurking for some time to figure out issues every once in a while and I’ve found this forum to be a valuable resource.

    My issue is that I have a few Toshiba Satellite C855-S5346 laptops that boot to FOG but hang before the kernel finishes loading. These are fairly new Windows 8 laptops but they clearly aren’t optimized for an enterprise environment. I’ve tried multiple kernels with no luck still and Administration over here is getting a bit impatient…

    Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as a Kernel that may work? I’m not very good with Linux so I wouldn’t even know where to begin to create a custom Kernel but if there are any resources available as far as How-To’s I wouldn’t be against trying.

    Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide.



  • The machine is still hung this morning…Here is some of the entries in the error log.

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: SERVER in /var/www/fog/management/includes/mainmenu.include.php on line 32, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 7, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 11, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 15, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 19, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant sub - assumed ‘sub’ in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.include.php on line 23, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined index: update in /var/www/fog/management/includes/about.fogsettings.include.php on line 24, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: id in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 38, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: host in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 66, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined index: about in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 405, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: output in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 463, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]

    [Thu Nov 21 13:06:51 2013] [error] [client 10.2.24.2] PHP Notice: Undefined property: FOGSubMenu::$notes in /var/www/fog/management/includes/submenu.include.php on line 473, referer: [url]http://10.2.24.2/fog/management/index.php?node=about[/url]


  • Senior Developer

    David,

    How long are you waiting before you’re deciding that the system is hung? The only output you’re getting now is: [QUOTE]acpiphp_ibm: ibm_acpiphp_init: acpi_walk_namespace failed[/QUOTE]

    How do you know it’s hung for sure? Also, can you possible post, when the system is hung, your FOG Server’s apache error log?
    On Ubuntu/Debian based systems this log is generally located at /var/log/apache2/error.log
    On CentOS/Fedora/RedHat based systems this log is generally located at /var/log/httpd/error_log

    I still have a sneaky suspicion that you’re just not waiting long enough. It’s actually quite common not to see anything happen for some period of time. 10 minutes might be too long but ~ 1-5 minutes could be expected. I only averaged that out to around 3 minutes before because that’s about what I see on some of my systems, but it does continue on.



  • Still didn’t get to the Client System Info menu.

    Loads bzimage fine
    Loads init.gz fine
    Then displays the acpi namespace error and just hangs there


  • Senior Developer

    Some times it takes a while for the kernel to load as it’s checking the system and loading all the drivers to ram after processing. Try again with the [url]https://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImage[/url]. It can take upwards of 3 minutes depending on the system, but I can pretty much assure you it will be fine.

    The error’s you’re seeing are normal meaning the kernel has drivers for those devices, but it can’t find the device itself.



  • Just received a new Lenovo T440p laptop that I’m trying to get to register. I’ve tried the following kernels:

    3.8.8. - Newest from Kernel Updater in FOG 0.32
    KitchenSink kernel
    ALLNET - from the link in this thread
    CORE - from the link in this thread

    Each of these will boot to the initial FOG Menu, but when I choose Client System Information, various things happen. Most hang the machine with errors (see below). The only one that I can actually get to the menu of options to check FOG Compatibility is the kitchensink kernel - this one results in the same error above, network test failed.

    The others stop before it gets there with errors:

    acpiphp_ibm: ibm_acpiphp_init: acpi_walk_namespace failed
    cr_bllcd: INTEL CARILLO RANCH LPC not found
    nvidiafb: unable to setup MTRR

    Any ideas?



  • I’m feeling like trying something, but well. Has anyone tried compiling buildroot & the kernel on 64 bits. FOG as it is would benefit a lot from it, on system with more than 4 GB RAM, especially for the upload process… Any input on that? ;)
    I’ll see how long it takes to make buildroot & the kernel 64 bits, see how that goes…


  • Senior Developer

    No problem.

    From now on, my kernels will all be based on Core with AllNet drivers attached.



  • Sweet, it works!

    Thanks Tom and Chad for all your help and the super quick responses!

    Tom- I tried a kernel that I found in a thread you posted in after searching. Clearly it wasn’t the same kernel Chad suggested earlier in this thread so thanks for linking it directly.


  • Senior Developer

    What kernel did you try before?

    Did you try the bzImageALLNET kernel?

    [url]https://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImageALLNET[/url]

    This should have all possible linux drivers of network adapters.



  • The BIOS is set to legacy and the PXE menu does boot thankfully. After checking fog compatibility it returns HDD: Pass, Network: Fail. I’m going to try the core kernel Tom posted and see if that makes any difference.

    EDIT
    Tried the core kernel, no difference, same error unfortunately.


  • Moderator

    Compatibility check is inside the client system information task from the pxe boot menu. I don’t know if you’ll be able to get there since the kernel can’t finish loading. These are not secure-boot enabled are they? Is the BIOS set to legacy bios or EUFI?


  • Senior Developer

    Try checking compatibility first. Also I’ll post the link to my core kernel as it could very well be that. It should be [url]HTTPS://mastacontrola.com/fogboot/kernel/bzImageCORE[/url]


  • Senior Developer

    Ioctl isn’t usually a kernel issue by itself. It usually means a device was found under the kernel but can’t be mounted as it truly doesn’t exist. The hang on upload is usually its unable to communicate with the database. When I get home in about two hours I’ll look more to help you out.



  • I’m actually on 0.32.


  • Senior Developer

    Lemme guess you’re using fog 0.33?



  • No luck with Tom’s kernel unfortunately…

    Processor and Graphics
    Intel Celeron
    Processor 847 1.1 GHz, 2MB Cache

    Mobile Intel NM70 Express Chipset Mobile Intel HD graphics

    LAN
    Qualcomm Atheros AR8162/8166/8168

    Upon attempting to register hosts I get the message “Inappropriate ioctl for device”



  • Thanks!

    I found Tom’s custom kernel so I’ll give that a shot. If it doesn’t work I’ll report back with needed specs.


  • Moderator

    Tom Elliot has posted a generic “everything networking” kernel in several of his posts. Also, if you post the specs, such as video and LAN chipsets, we might be better able to help.


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