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    Windows 11 | 65x HP Z2 Tower G1i | UPDATE -

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      kratkale @Tom Elliott
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      @Tom-Elliott
      I mean, why do I need to connect to the web interface? I don’t have to do anything there during the update, do I?

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        kratkale @Tom Elliott
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        @Tom-Elliott
        In my workflow, it would be really cool if I could assign a single snap-in directly from the Basic Tasks…
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          Tom Elliott @kratkale
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          @kratkale You can, but it falls under “Advanced Tasks”.

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            kratkale @Tom Elliott
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            @Tom-Elliott
            Yeah, that’s how I do it—but it always takes so many clicks—I think it would be great as a basic feature.

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              Tom Elliott @kratkale
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              @kratkale The problem is Snapins are not a basic feature:

              They require the FOG Client + knowledge of what a snapin is and does (at a base level)

              The “basic” for FOG is imaging at its core.

              Snapins are a way of getting the machine to do additional things: install software, run a script (or set of scripts) etc… - Please note I’m not saying it’s not a useful feature, just saying that it’s more than a “Basic” thing.

              You can do a curl request to schedule a snapin task which might be better, though you would need to know what MAC Address to use for the host in question.

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                Tom Elliott @kratkale
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                @kratkale said in Windows 11 | 65x HP Z2 Tower G1i | UPDATE -:

                I mean, why do I need to connect to the web interface? I don’t have to do anything there during the update, do I?

                The URL you see is because the installer doesn’t know if (or not) there’s a Schema Update.

                It always shows that on every install. If you don’t want to see that, now that FOG is installed, you can just run your installer with:

                sudo ./installfog.sh -y

                If there is a schema update, this will do the update for you automatically, if not, the doesn’t matter, the main update just goes through the normal process.

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                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                  kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                  @Tom-Elliott
                  Automatic snap-ins (connected to the group or the PC) don’t always work well, e.g., when the PC is busy with itself and the Microsoft ecosystem after cloning. For example: the PC isn’t ready for the snap-in yet because it’s currently installing an update, isn’t in the domain yet, etc.
                  That’s why, over the years, I’ve gotten into the habit of first checking whether the PC is in the domain, letting it boot up completely, and only then running my “one” snap-in per PC. In that single Snap-in, I gather everything I need to set up the PC: for example, a student PC needs a Veyon client, the student proxy server, etc. => Student Snap-in; a teacher PC needs the Veyon Master and the fast teacher proxy => a separate Snap-in for teacher PCs

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                    kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                    @Tom-Elliott
                    I think sorting by name would be better than sorting by ID

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                      Tom Elliott @kratkale
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                      @kratkale I’m having it do a sort on “name” then by start time (newest first) if there’s a tie.

                      I think it is because the snapinLink is what you see as the name, and that link built by sorting by the IDs rather than the names.

                      For the active tasks table I figured sorting by the time adds a level of understanding so you always know who was the newest one to the party (so to speak).

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                        Tom Elliott @kratkale
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                        @kratkale This has now been pushed.

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                          kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                          @Tom-Elliott

                          Sometimes I come across these “ghost” tasks—I have no idea how I end up with them.
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                            kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                            @Tom-Elliott
                            Unfortunately, the “Reset Encryption Data” feature doesn’t work very well for me. Right now, it seems like I have to press the “Reset” button during the cloning process every time I clone a PC. If I don’t, the Fog Client doesn’t work, and I have to go to the PC in person.
                            To make sure the PCs are still usable, I’ve moved the steps for renaming the PC, connecting it to the domain, and installing the Veyon Client to c:\windows\Setup\Scripts\SetupComplete.cmd. This makes the cloning process go more smoothly for me. I also install the Fog Client at the same time.

                            Despite all these efforts, I’m not getting anywhere:
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Communication Download: http://192.168.0.196/fog/management/other/ssl/srvpublic.crt
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Authentication Cert OK
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Authentication No token found at C:\Program Files (x86)\FOG\token.dat, this is expected if the client has not authenticated before
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Authentication ERROR: Could not get security token
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Authentication ERROR: Die Datei “C:\Program Files (x86)\FOG\token.dat” konnte nicht gefunden werden.
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Communication POST URL: http://192.168.0.196/fog/management/index.php?sub=requestClientInfo&authorize&newService
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Communication ERROR: Failed to POST data
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Communication ERROR: Der Remoteserver hat einen Fehler zurückgegeben: (401) Nicht autorisiert.
                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Middleware::Response Success

                            01.07.2026 18:34:53 Client-Info ERROR: Failed to authenticate, will not run Module Looper.

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                              kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                              @Tom-Elliott
                              Tom—I just can’t get this to work. I’ve been trying to set up a multicast with 6 PCs here: PC013CAD through PC018CAD. They’re all identical devices, and sometimes one set works, then the other. I think the problem is somehow with the client. In this log, I automatically installed the client after cloning (c:\Windows\setup\ … ), then uninstalled it and reinstalled it—but I still can’t get a connection.
                              01.07.2026 23:39:12 Main Overriding exception handling
                              01.07.2026 23:39:12 Main Bootstrapping Zazzles
                              01.07.2026 23:39:12 Controller Initialize
                              01.07.2026 23:39:12 Controller Start

                              01.07.2026 23:39:12 Service Starting service
                              01.07.2026 23:39:14 Bus Became bus server
                              01.07.2026 23:39:14 Bus Emmiting message on channel: Status
                              01.07.2026 23:39:14 Service Invoking early JIT compilation on needed binaries

                              Authentication--------------------------------

                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Client-Info Version: 0.13.0
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Client-Info OS: Windows
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication Waiting for authentication timeout to pass
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Communication Download: http://192.168.0.196/fog/management/other/ssl/srvpublic.crt
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication Cert OK
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication No token found at C:\Program Files (x86)\FOG\token.dat, this is expected if the client has not authenticated before
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication ERROR: Could not get security token
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication ERROR: Die Datei “C:\Program Files (x86)\FOG\token.dat” konnte nicht gefunden werden.
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Communication POST URL: http://192.168.0.196/fog/management/index.php?sub=requestClientInfo&authorize&newService
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Communication ERROR: Failed to POST data
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Communication ERROR: Der Remoteserver hat einen Fehler zurückgegeben: (401) Nicht autorisiert.
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Response Success

                              Authentication--------------------------------

                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Client-Info Version: 0.13.0
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Client-Info OS: Windows
                              01.07.2026 23:39:15 Middleware::Authentication Waiting for authentication timeout to pass

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                                Tom Elliott @kratkale
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                                @kratkale I’m unsure if I follow:

                                So if you reset encryption data, things will start and continue to work, but fresh after imaging it does not?

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                                  kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                                  @Tom-Elliott
                                  I’m still testing to see if it works. I have a group of 6 PCs: PC013 through PC018.
                                  They are all identical PCs.
                                  I start the cloning process—reset encryption.
                                  3 to 4 PCs work perfectly, but 1 to 2 PCs cannot connect to the FOG server.
                                  The FOG client is now installed after cloning.
                                  On the next attempt, the other PCs work.

                                  I don’t see any systematic pattern either

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                                    Tom Elliott @kratkale
                                    last edited by Tom Elliott

                                    @kratkale Is it possible DHCP IPs are all used up and the device that fails doesn’t have a proper IP address to be able to even communicate with your FOG Server?

                                    It is very odd that one machine works where another seems to fail.

                                    Nope, because 401 isn’t the same as that’s a client side error saying “we failed to prove we can talk to the fog server.”

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                                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                      kratkale @Tom Elliott
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                                      @Tom-Elliott
                                      DHCP works perfectly—it runs on IP Fire—and this system has proven itself.

                                      OK—I have a proxy server running. I’ve only specified my IT students’ HTTP server as a proxy exception. All HTTP pages running on the network are inaccessible to the students in their browsers because “the proxy is configured incorrectly”… Of course, this isn’t foolproof—but most students can’t access HTTP pages from IP Fire, Shellies, AP etc., this way. After all, they’re mechanical engineers, not computer scientists. I then set the proxy exceptions correctly in my browser on my computer and can work.
                                      I’ll go ahead and add the Fog Server to the proxy exceptions.

                                      If the website stays open for a while, there should be some way to tell that you need to log in again.
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                                      The tab at the top says “Zero”—the image below doesn’t load. Now you have to change the URL to the base URL, and then the login page will appear.

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                                        kratkale @kratkale
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                                        @kratkale
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                                        After cloning, all IP addresses are OK.
                                        CAD013.PNG
                                        CAD014.PNG
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                                        CAD017.PNG
                                        CAD018.PNG The Fog Logs are quite different, after all
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                                        Where can I upload the logs?

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                                          kratkale @kratkale
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                                          @Tom-Elliott
                                          I’m finding all this back-and-forth here pretty confusing—can we structure our communication differently? I think there was a new message from you for a moment—but I don’t see it right now.

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                                            kratkale @kratkale
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                                            @kratkale
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                                            Here in the Tasks, there are those weird snap-ins again—I have no idea where they’re coming from

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