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    [Seeking Volunteers] Bench Testing! Our trip to the best results!

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    • george1421G
      george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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      @Mokerhamer said in [Seeking Volunteers] Bench Testing! Our trip to the best results!:

      We’re now thinking about setting up a 10GB network and do the exact same tests.

      What we have here is a 3 legged stool. On the one leg we have CPU+Memory, on the next leg we have the disk subsystem and on the final leg we have networking. Its always a challenge to see which way the stool will tip.

      If you look a bit back in time at the target computers the disk subsystems were the bottleneck. They were in the range of 40-90MB/s. The CPU+memory has been fine from the speed side for many years as well as the networking had plenty of bandwidth.

      Now look today we still have primarly a 1 GbE networking infrastructure to the desk, NVMe disks that can write upwards of 700MB/s, Fast and WIDE CPUs (multiple cores). Now the bottle neck is the network. It just can’t pump the bits down the wire to keep both the CPU and disk busy.

      Moving to 10GbE will be interesting to see which leg will fail next. With 10GbE you will have a maximum throughput of 1.250 MB/s. On a clear network you “should” be able to saturate that disk subsystem again, assuming the CPU+memory can keep up with the network card and expand the data stream fast enough.

      Make sure when you get it sorted out you share your changes on what you found so others can see the improvements you’ve made.

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        Mokerhamer @george1421
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        @george1421

        We’re having difficulties with the 10GBe network card on client.

        We’ve Fully disabled onboard NIC on the system (Bios).

        System boots PXE (TFTP/http)… but when it wants to mount FOG it suddenly said no DHCP on ENP12S0 nic. Like it’s expecting to receive DHCP on onboard nic. Dident expect that…

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        • george1421G
          george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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          @Mokerhamer said in [Seeking Volunteers] Bench Testing! Our trip to the best results!:

          but when it wants to mount FOG

          Lets just be sure I understand correctly.

          You can pxe boot into the fog iPXE menu. When you select something like full registration or pick imaging both bzImage and init.xz is transferred to the target computer. The target computer then starts FOS Linux, but during the boot of FOS, you get to a point where it can’t get an IP address or contact the fog server, it tries 3 times then gives up? Is that where its failing?

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            Mokerhamer @george1421
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            @george1421

            Yes!

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            • george1421G
              george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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              @Mokerhamer Something happened with the picture upload. You need to wait until the image appears in the right edit panel before submitting your post.

              OK it sounds like FOS Linux doesn’t have the driver for your network adapter.

              Lets start out by having your schedule a debug deploy/capture to this target computer. When you schedule the task tick the debug checkbox before you press the schedule task button.

              PXE boot the target computer, after several screens of text where you have to clear by pressing the enter key you should be dropped to the FOS Linux command prompt.

              At the FOS Linux command prompt key in the following and post a the screen shots here.

              ip link show

              lspci -nn|grep -i net

              Also what model of 10G adapter are you using?

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                Mokerhamer @george1421
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                @george1421 said in [Seeking Volunteers] Bench Testing! Our trip to the best results!:

                When you schedule the task tick the debug checkbox before you press the schedule task button.

                *Doing it now (debug).
                *Nic X550T1BLK
                https://www.kommago.nl/intel-x550-t1-10-gigabit-netwerk-adapter/pid=51799

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                • george1421G
                  george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                  @Mokerhamer If you have this nic in a running windows box. Will you get the hardware ID of it? OR from the FOS Linux run the lspci command as I’ve outlined below. I’ll look it up to see if linux supports that card.

                  The 10G stuff is new and may not be enabled in FOS Linux. Having the hardware ID will help (i.e. 8086:1AF2 made up number, but that is what I’m looking for)

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                    Mokerhamer @george1421
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                    @george1421

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                    • george1421G
                      george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                      @Mokerhamer That card driver should be included with FOS Linux it has been in the linux kernel since 4.7. I checked and its enabled in the FOS Linux build config: https://github.com/FOGProject/fos/blob/master/configs/kernelx64.config#L1447

                      From the FOS Linux command prompt key in
                      ip addr show

                      uname -a

                      and post the results

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                        Mokerhamer @george1421
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                        @george1421

                        Okey.

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                        • george1421G
                          george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                          @Mokerhamer Well this is a good one. It should be working.

                          At the fos linux command prompt key in

                          /sbin/udhcpc -i enp11s0 --now

                          then do an
                          ip addr show

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                            Mokerhamer @george1421
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                            @george1421
                            Done

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                              george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                              @Mokerhamer Ok at this point, time fixes your problem.

                              So if this was a 1GbE network I would say on the switch you are connected to has standard spanning tree enabled. Again if this was a 1GbE network I would recommend that you enable one of the fast spanning tree protocols like RSTP, MSTP, fast-STP. I don’t know if that translates to a 10GbE switch or not. I know on our hybrid switch 100/1000/10000 I have MSTP enabled because we have multiple stp zones.

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                                Mokerhamer @george1421
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                                @george1421

                                Reboot? or a command to start cast? Checking out our switches meanwhile

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                                • george1421G
                                  george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                                  @Mokerhamer You are probably better to cancel the task on the fog server then reboot. If you were unicasting and wanted to single step through deployment you would enter fog at the FOS linux command prompt. You may be able to do that with a multicast, but I never tried.

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                                    Mokerhamer @george1421
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                                    @george1421

                                    Resolved. Spanning-tree was not enabled on the switch port that was directly attached to system.
                                    spanning-tree portfast on the port solved it.

                                    What for 10GBe switches are you using? i might purchase the same ones ( we’re seeking for 10GBe switch to test deployment)

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                                    • fry_pF
                                      fry_p Moderator
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                                      @Mokerhamer I wanted to clear up my first reply. I’m sorry, I didn’t want to seem so negative and I didn’t fully understand what this encompassed. I apologize if I came off as a meanie. I now see you have really good ideas/plans (and the equipment to back it up). Thank you for supporting the community through awareness and testing. I wish you the best for your trials and await the results!

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                                      Use your computer/server for humanitarian projects when it is idle!
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                                      • george1421G
                                        george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                                        @Mokerhamer said in [Seeking Volunteers] Bench Testing! Our trip to the best results!:

                                        What for 10GBe switches are you using?

                                        Its an older kit, Procurve 5412zl at our core switch and inside data center.

                                        That’s great it was something simple like spanning tree. The issue is with standard spanning tree is that it doesn’t start forwarding data for 27 seconds once the link is established. Well during the pxe booting process the link “winks” 2 times. The first as iPXE takes over from the PXE rom, and the second time is when FOS Linux takes over from iPXE. FOS Linux boots so fast that by the time the port starts forwarding data FOS Linux has already given up.

                                        Standard STP listens for a BPU then forwards. Fast-STP forwards first then listens for the BPU.

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                                          Mokerhamer @george1421
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                                          @george1421

                                          Procurve 5412zl does not have 10GB poorts? or i might have the wrong product infront of me

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                                          • george1421G
                                            george1421 Moderator @Mokerhamer
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                                            @Mokerhamer There are 10GbE modules for it.

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