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Windows 10 - Start menu freezing after feature update

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    Avaryan
    last edited by Nov 20, 2017, 12:22 PM

    This is not a FOG issue, but hoping someone might know something.

    The image I build and deployed this summer was Windows 10 Enterprise Build 1607. A few weeks back our machines started updating to Build 1703.

    This is only affecting users who did not have a profile on the PC prior to the update. On these machines the Start menu freezes, especially if you attempt to type/search. Some applications also won’t load or become unresponsive while loading.

    I’m thinking it may have something to do with AppxPackages and/or AppxProvisionedPackages that were removed on the original image. After the Build 1703 update, many (maybe all) of the AppxPackages and AppxProvisionedPackages that I had removed were restored… which was really irritating.

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      x23piracy
      last edited by x23piracy Nov 20, 2017, 7:12 AM Nov 20, 2017, 1:08 PM

      Hi,

      i always found a solution here, even if i tried multiple of the solutions, it worked afterwards…
      You may need to translate the website in to your mother tongue:

      https://www.deskmodder.de/wiki/index.php?title=Startmenü_reparieren_Windows_10

      You should first try to delete the following file and folder:

      %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Mircosoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat 
      %userprofile%\AppData\Local\TileLayerDatabase\Database
      

      Regards X23

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        Avaryan @x23piracy
        last edited by Avaryan Nov 30, 2017, 11:45 AM Nov 22, 2017, 1:53 PM

        @x23piracy Thanks. There was some useful information on there.

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          Sebastian Roth Moderator
          last edited by Nov 22, 2017, 9:16 PM

          @Avaryan Shall we mark this solved then?

          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

          Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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            Avaryan
            last edited by Nov 30, 2017, 5:51 PM

            In case anyone else experience this issue, we seem to have a solution. Something corrupted the default user profile during the Feature Update from Build 1607 to Build 1703.

            The following PowerShell commands took care of the issue:

            Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse
            Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse 
            

            This solves the issues for any new profiles, but profiles created after the Feature Update will need to be deleted.

            This can be marked as solved now.

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              Avaryan
              last edited by Nov 30, 2017, 8:00 PM

              Better fix:

              The following PowerShell snippet appears to fix the previously reported issues that appeared after the Feature Update to Build 1703.
              
              # Removes WebCache and INetCache folders from Default Profile.
              Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse
              Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse
              
              $Users = (Get-ChildItem -Path "$env:SystemDrive\Users").FullName
              
              # Deletes WebCache and INetCache on all non-hidden users.
              ForEach($User in $Users) {
                  Remove-Item -Path $User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
                  Remove-Item -Path $User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
              } 
              

              This fixes it for all new and existing user profiles.

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                x23piracy @Avaryan
                last edited by x23piracy Nov 30, 2017, 4:12 PM Nov 30, 2017, 10:08 PM

                @avaryan said in Windows 10 - Start menu freezing after feature update:

                In case anyone else experience this issue, we seem to have a solution. Something corrupted the default user profile during the Feature Update from Build 1607 to Build 1703.

                The following PowerShell commands took care of the issue:

                Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse
                Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse 
                

                This solves the issues for any new profiles, but profiles created after the Feature Update will need to be deleted.

                This can be marked as solved now.

                Hi,

                this only happens with Windows 10 1703 when you use “copyprofile” in unattend.xml, if so and if you want to stick with copyprofile (like me) you have to delete the mentioned folders but you miss a file that has also been deleted, let me have a look for it…

                Found it back, look at this thread, what you found was mentioned before (read the complete thread!):
                https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/10210/windows-10-1703-image-with-strange-issue/18

                rd /S /Q "C:\Users\Default\AppData\LocalLow"
                rd /S /Q "C:\users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache"
                rd /S /Q "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache"
                del /F "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCacheLock.dat"
                

                I trigger that delete lines with setupcomplete.cmd

                Microsoft changed the copyprofile behaviour, you need to know how to handle it if you still use it.

                Regards X23

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                  Avaryan
                  last edited by Dec 1, 2017, 6:23 PM

                  I’ve seen the article where those additional files were listed; however, they were not present on our systems so they were not included in the fix.

                  I deployed the solution posted above via SCCM to all Windows 10 systems and it’s solved our issues.

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                    Twilems @Avaryan
                    last edited by Twilems Dec 19, 2017, 6:06 AM Dec 19, 2017, 12:05 PM

                    @Avaryan do i have to put this script in a specified folder? Or is it just run this script and it’s fixed?

                    The following PowerShell snippet appears to fix the previously reported issues that appeared after the Feature Update to Build 1703.
                    
                    # Removes WebCache and INetCache folders from Default Profile.
                    Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse
                    Remove-Item -Path C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse
                    
                    $Users = (Get-ChildItem -Path "$env:SystemDrive\Users").FullName
                    
                    # Deletes WebCache and INetCache on all non-hidden users.
                    ForEach($User in $Users) {
                        Remove-Item -Path $User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache -Force -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
                        Remove-Item -Path $User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache -Force -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
                    }
                    
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                      Avaryan @Twilems
                      last edited by Dec 19, 2017, 12:18 PM

                      @twilems Just run it. It will fix the issue for all users.

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                        Twilems @Avaryan
                        last edited by Dec 19, 2017, 12:39 PM

                        @avaryan Is this also working for version 1709?

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                          Avaryan @Twilems
                          last edited by Dec 19, 2017, 12:46 PM

                          @twilems No idea. If the cause is the same, then probably.

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